fire safe cigarettes

G.T. Smith · Apr 11, 2010

I'm gonna venture to guess that there's probably not a lot of smokers out there, but those of you who do,(like me) whats up with those FSC's or fire safe cigarettes? Now I know that it isn't a healthy habit and I am not condoning the use of tobacco products, but these so called safety cigarettes are any thing but. I know at least one case where a guy was driving when the fire dropped out into the seat and he run off the road trying to get it before it caught something on fire. On top of that, you have to keep lighting them and they taste like, well, they don't taste very good. I figure you're gonna say, why don't you quit then, and that would probably be the best solution to the problem, but I don't want to. I wonder whose bright idea it was to start that process. Was it the government, or was it the insurance companies who seem to have a hand in, or control everything we do every day.
I think I'm gonna try to raise my own tobacco and start rolling them in regular papers. I wonder if zig-zag and tops are making their papers with the fire safe properties?
Oh well, just thought I'd vent a little frustration on here, and I feel better already. Thanks for your time.
gordon

Strato · Apr 11, 2010

It might've been Bic's idea because you have to keep relighting and buying more lighters. And you're right. The fire keeps falling off and burning the carpet in my truck. Just another way more control equals less quality.

fat tom · Apr 11, 2010

Just more government "nazis" doing their "job".

f.t.

Crazy K38 · Apr 11, 2010

it irritates the hell out of me when I only have a few drags left and then it goes out, because I want to finish it but it isn't worth relighting!

JOliver · Apr 11, 2010

same boat here...I know I should quit but geez I quit everything else and smoking was my last enjoyment.I too want to know if anyone out there doesnt have the FSC paper...I'll roll my own if I have too.
Government at its best ...really makes me mad

Jason

wlmccann · Apr 11, 2010

It irritates me too. While I should probably quit, having smoked for 44 years and am subsequently short of breath, it should be my choice and not every body elses business. I try to keep smoke away from others and if it really bothers somebody I will either not light up or go elsewhere. Besides my wife, the CNA, constantly nagging me to quit, I get it from every conceivable media outlet i.e. television, print media etc. Tobacco has been demonised and those of us who still smoke are second class citizens. The fire retardent is a constant irritant. If I set a cigarrette down in the ashtray it goes out. I think I actually smoke of the cigarrette now than I did before the fire retardent was added since it goes out before it can burn away and I can pick it up and relight it. Before I would get engrossed in whatever I was working on and more of it burned in the ashtray than I smoked. As an aside, I heard from a guy working the tobacco counter in the Joplin Missourri Sams Club that all cigarrettes will be mandated to go to plain black and white packaging in the near future. The reason seems to be that if the package is plain, it won't be very attractive and might attract or induce fewer people to smoke. D*** all those who know best for us and would save us from ourselves. Rant temporarily over.

pownal55 · Apr 11, 2010

I quit years ago, but watching the changes with how smokers are treated is insane. Crack smokers get more respect. Tobacco is a product that is sold and used legally but if you choose to indulge you are demonized. Next you won't be able to light them at all and the anti's will still find something wrong. I am surprised there are no "pro-smoking" groups in this country, it's about peoples rights, not cigarettes.

DougE · Apr 11, 2010

I made the switch to RYO/MYO cigarettes after Kentucky passed that FSC crap a couple years ago and never looked back. Better quality (real) tobacco and it's cheaper to boot.

GatorFarmer · Apr 11, 2010

Quality cigarettes have always been somewhat firesafe. These include Dunhills, Shermans, etc. If a cigarette isn't chock full of additivies and contains relatively pure tobacco that is packed tight, they will indeed not stay lit unless you're puffing on them. I don't know about specifically fire safe cigarettes, but I'd imagine that additives have as much to do with regulations as a desire to reduce fires when dropped.

My advice is to either smoke imports or else get a pipe. It is of course legal to grow and cure your own tobacco so long as it is only for your own use. If you sell any, you'll likely find yourself in greater trouble than if you were growing one of the far more popular (and illegal) things that people grow at home to smoke.

I smoke Pall Mall filters, 20 something a carton in relatively unregulated South Carolina. The last round of Federal taxes hit RYO cigarette tobaccos, so it is actually cheaper for me to just smoke PMs than to make my own like I used to.

mountaingun629 · Apr 11, 2010

The fire safe additive must be in the tobacco rather than the paper. They taste and smell much worse than they used to.
They constantly drop gobs of ash in your lap, and sometimes a live coal.
Another example of the goobermint nanny state.

Myron

DougE · Apr 11, 2010

mountaingun629 said:
The fire safe additive must be in the tobacco rather than the paper. They taste and smell much worse than they used to.
They constantly drop gobs of ash in your lap, and sometimes a live coal.
Another example of the goobermint nanny state.

Myron

Actually, the FSC chemicals are applied to the paper. They apply several polymer "speed bumps" along the length of the paper and when the cherry hits one of these, the cigarette will go out if you're not drawing on it. The RYO/MYO papers and tubes do not contain these materials and AFAIK, there are no plans to add the FSC stuff to them.

A number of "pipe" tobacco blends have been introduced since the tax hike Gator mentioned that are quite suitable for RYO/MYO and are taxed at a lower rate. There is legislation in the works to equalize pipe and RYO tobacco tax but it hasn't gone anywhere so far.

Anyone interested in alternatives to FSC cigarettes should visit: baccytown.com and ryorevolution.com ........ lots of good information on these sites.

pownal55 · Apr 11, 2010

I always liked the smell of a pipe, when i was a kid they were very popular like cigars. You would have to hide to smoke one today or be attacked by the anti-smoking nerds.

labworm · Apr 11, 2010

Like myself, only fools smoke. Just can't kick the habit, going on 40 years now.

Regarding the safety smokes, I think they are just a pain in the Butt.

I smoke American Spirit, yellow box "Light Mellow Taste", which I purchase in NH for $57.49 a carton. If I bought the same smokes in Massachusetts it would cost me around $90.00 a carton. Imagine

I remember saying I was going to quit when they cost $1.00 a pack, that was long ago, sadly to say.

18DAI · Apr 11, 2010

Anyone else getting headaches from the FSC smokes? If I smoke a pack in a day I get a blinding headache and nausea. Regards 18DAI.

CAJUNLAWYER · Apr 11, 2010

GatorFarmer said:
Quality cigarettes have always been somewhat firesafe. These include Dunhills, Shermans, etc. If a cigarette isn't chock full of additivies and contains relatively pure tobacco that is packed tight, they will indeed not stay lit unless you're puffing on them. I don't know about specifically fire safe cigarettes, but I'd imagine that additives have as much to do with regulations as a desire to reduce fires when dropped.

My advice is to either smoke imports or else get a pipe. It is of course legal to grow and cure your own tobacco so long as it is only for your own use. If you sell any, you'll likely find yourself in greater trouble than if you were growing one of the far more popular (and illegal) things that people grow at home to smoke.

I smoke Pall Mall filters, 20 something a carton in relatively unregulated South Carolina. The last round of Federal taxes hit RYO cigarette tobaccos, so it is actually cheaper for me to just smoke PMs than to make my own like I used to.

As usual, I have to agree with Gator. Full disclosure-I snorted snuf, dipped Skoll, chewed Levi Garret, Inhaled Macanudo Cameroon Chico seconds at $20 per hundred, smoked a pipe and smoked store bought cigarettes. If I were to start again, it would be a pipe & the little Macanudo seconds. Cigarettes are just too expensive for me (used to have a 4 pack a day habit) and a pipe/cigars gives the true goodness of the noxious weed. Although, I would roll my own with a tin of Bugler if need be

PS I still miss the process of preparing a good briar for smoking-it is a real art.

DeathGrip · Apr 11, 2010

The best part is if you toss one in a dry mulch pile it still's gonna catch on fire.So I guess we'll still see road side fires.
Another stupid legislation that don't blinking work.

D.G.

DougE · Apr 11, 2010

18DAI said:
Anyone else getting headaches from the FSC smokes? If I smoke a pack in a day I get a blinding headache and nausea. Regards 18DAI.

I've heard other people say the same thing but didn't experience it myself. They did give me a real bad cough though ....... I'd be coughing all kinds of nastiness in the morning which went away as soon as I got away from the FSC's.

hank 33 · Dec 31, 2012

I've never smoked but have friends that do. They complain about the taste of the new cigarettes,and it staying lit. They also say it hurts their throat if they smoke to many in a day.And that just a few years back when money got tight they would buy the cheaper brands,not any more.They said the cheaper brands hurt your throat before they made the FCS.

longranger · Dec 31, 2012

The "old style cigarettes" has/had chemicals added to keep them burning,nitrated something or other. That must taste better than the fire retardants.

blujax01 · Dec 31, 2012

As luck would have it, I quit right before they came out. My wife (who has recently quit) started smoking more after the FSC's came out. Instead of relighting them she never set one down. "Hot-boxed" 'em from tip to butt.

Tell me that wasn't figured into the equation!

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