spinning bullets on ice...anyone else seen this???

It appears that it was fired from a Glock and that it is spinning clockwise, no?
Can anyone determine that the bullet is spinning in the correct direction based on the rifling of the Glock?
I don't own one to see which way the rifling is cut.
 
Does anyone remember the history channel doing a show about ww2 weopons that never made it to war. The u.s. experimented with a giant aircraft carrier made of a combination of ice and sawdust. It was almost impervious to bombs and rounds because the ice at the impact spot instantaniously melted robbing a round of its energy. I believe this is whats happening. The round is robbed if its forward kinetic energy,but for some reason the rotational energy remains.
 
Mercury said:
It appears that it was fired from a Glock and that it is spinning clockwise, no?
Can anyone determine that the bullet is spinning in the correct direction based on the rifling of the Glock?
I don't own one to see which way the rifling is cut.
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The rifling is clockwise.....at least in my G21.

The Mythbusters will need to do this. I'll post it on their site.
 
kobsw said:
The rifling is clockwise.....at least in my G21.

The Mythbusters will need to do this. I'll post it on their site.
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I dont know that there is a reasonably safe way to play with this one since it seems that the bullet tends to establish is spinning position away from POI .. this may put bullets in the "scientist"
 
The bullet is turning about 54k RPM, and the temperature is about 1k degrees F. Copper melts at about 2k degrees F.

It would be possible that the bullet would melt enough ice and not deform, pretty much the same way an ice skate actually glides on water, and not ice. The ice would melt instantly, absorbing the bullet's energy.

There's enough kinetic energy for the bullet to maintain its rotation, melting the ice, until the energy wanes enough for the water to start refreezing as the bullet gives up heat, therefore slowing the spin.

1200fps * .75 * 60 = 54k RPM

Where 1200fps = velocity of the bullet
.75 = Twist rate 12/16 (1/16" twist rate)
60 = revolutions per minute
 
kobsw said:
Fake...Why is the bullet so perfect? I can only speculate but I believe the bullet(Projectile) made of soft lead and copper would have some diformity.
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IIRC, Alan Jones (Speer Reloading Manuals), in his "Going Ballistic" column in Shooting Times Magazine, commented about using ice to recover a bullet for forensic analysis in the early days before the Dallas Crime lab got a water recovery system. He, too, was amazed that the recovered bullets weren't damaged.

I might be mistaken about the author and magazine, but a major league gun guru did state that he fired a bullet into ice and after the ice melted, the bullet was not deformed in any way except for the marks made by the gun it was fired from.

As for bouncing off the ice and spinning like a top, I believe it is possible, but I'll have to let others prove it since we don't have much ice around here. ;)
 
Ok, I know this is not the greatest subject and we all have better things to talk about, but I've checked a number of these videos out to see if I could pick up on anything out of the norm(Besides a Spinning Bullet).

I then compared them to images and videos of fired bullets at which point I noticed that all of those bullets had rifling marks.

Now I have to admit that none of the spinning bullet videos is very clear especially when the bullet stops..hmmmm, but I cant seem to see any rifling on the bullets. Now, I know rifling is not that easy to see on a bullet shot from a handgun but there's a video of a rifle bullet that I'm 99% sure does not have rifling on it.

Do a google search for spinning bullet video and you'll find the one with the rifle bullet among others.

Sorry if I've drug this subject out longer than anyone wants it to be. Since I cant shoot at ice and really don't even want to I'll just let it rest from here.

Thanks...
 
venomballistics said:
I dont know that there is a reasonably safe way to play with this one since it seems that the bullet tends to establish is spinning position away from POI .. this may put bullets in the "scientist"
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Wrong.... This experiment is perfectly safe. There is no danger to the shooter or anyone standing around.
I know this to be a fact, you see, because it has already been determined that all the bullet's energy is absorbed by the instantly melting ice.
 
rondo said:
I agree, magic bullet not at POI. He shot high-right by about a foot.
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After viewing other video I've changed my tune & now believe it's real. Could not get past the POI and spinning bullet being at different locations but it appears the bullet is jumping out of the impact crater back onto the ice.
 
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