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Since when did the word gift go from a noun to a verb????
Is it now " I gifted my friend a gift" as opposed to "I gave my friend a gift"
Same thing with disrespect. You treat someone with disrespect-you don't disrespect them-although it appears that this little abomination has snuck in and become entrenched.
Oh and what's with this "Fisher" stuff. It's fisherman for cryin out loud. And don't call the Hatteras a Sportsfisher-it's a sportfisherman-or using the older terminology a convertible.
I'm feeling a bit cranky this evening.
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How about ,Gone missing,used every day to describe someone who is missing .
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Sorry, "gift" as a verb goes back to Beowulf, at least.
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Same thing with disrespect. You treat someone with disrespect-you don't disrespect them-although it appears that this little abomination has snuck in and become entrenched.
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It even managed to sneak into the dictionary!
dis-re-spect
–noun1. lack of respect; discourtesy; rudeness.
–verb (used with object) 2. to regard or treat without respect; regard or treat with contempt or rudeness.
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It may be the beginning of a new subculture looking for attention, such as the, Pants on the ground look, and the auto speakers that produce more power than the car motor. If you are planning to form a commission to study the issue, I believe I have reservations in Cleveland on that day.
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The one that always got me was "irregardless".
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Or, as regards the pending fate of many, many Claxton fruitcakes, "re-gift." LOL.
In all fairness to the distinguished barrister from Louisiana however, I think what he is objecting to is not so much the apparent transmogrification of the common noun, bad enough as that is, but the air of pretense that surrounds the use of the word "gift" as a verb, e.g., "I gifted him a Model 19-4," sounds just awful compared to the much more plain, and straightforward, "I gave him a Model 19-4." I am, it must be said, immediately suspicious of people who ape British usage in an effort to sound better than the rest of us.
Now, I challenge any man-jack among you to refudiate this sentiment.
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Everybody talks about "closure". When I was a kid that was the thing that pulled the screen door shut.
Another thing that's changed is a tidal wave has become a tsunami.
What self-respecting english speaking person says SueNomMe?
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Glocks and Dan Wessons can be gifted -- if they hit the target, or given away if standard quality.
No syntax errors in this post.
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The one that always got me was "irregardless".
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I like to take it a bit further.. disirregardlessly is one I like to throw out from time to time just to be a fool.
Oh.. while we are on the topic.. I don't like how many people mess up the phrase "I couldn't care less". Instead they say "I could care less."
When someone tells me they could care less, I take it to mean that they care.. because it is possible for them to care less.
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Since when did the word gift go from a noun to a verb????
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Gift
–verb (used with object)
5.
to present with as a gift; bestow gifts upon; endow with.
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to present (someone) with a gift: just the thing to gift the newlyweds.
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My wife was a school teacher and these issues trouble her too. I can temporarily relieve her suffering with a kind word, a gentle hug and a smooch but I will have to recommend a toddy for you gents.
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I'm with you 100%, Caj. And Walter, you are right on target also. Why is it more correct to say that "So and So went missing" than "So and so is missing"? It is because some illiterate hack wrote in a media handbook and every talking head now is mandated to use it.
"Went" is an action verb that implies an action on the part of the person who is missing. "Is" shows state, or the relationship between two things (i.e. missing or not missing).
And while we are on pet peeves, when did elementary schools cease to teach the difference between "there", "their", and "they're"???
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Took me awhile to figure out...
"My bad"...
Kept waiting for the speaker to complete the sentence.
After hearing a few times I realized that was it.
There "speak" for an apology.
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I'm with you 100%, Caj. And Walter, you are right on target also. Why is it more correct to say that "So and So went missing" than "So and so is missing"? It is because some illiterate hack wrote in a media handbook and every talking head now is mandated to use it.
"Went" is an action verb that implies an action on the part of the person who is missing. "Is" shows state, or the relationship between two things (i.e. missing or not missing).
And while we are on pet peeves, when did elementary schools cease to teach the difference between "there", "their", and "they're"???
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I am among those language fanatics who insist on proper usage; however my 30 year-old Webster's does have definitions for "gift" and "disrespect" as transitive verbs. I certainly would agree that they don't sound quite correct when used that way, and I suspect that the editors of my dictionary were somewhat "progressive" in their approach to their task.
It's clear that language changes over time(a long, long time), but I tend to think that communication suffers when changes are too abrupt.
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Don't even get me started
The ones that get to me beside the misuse of the word arsenal, ( a place where weapons are stored, repaired, or manufactured, not a cache of weapons) is the term grandbaby and babydaddy and babymomma. it sounds so trailer trash. The correct words are grandchild, father, and mother. I could go on for hours but I won't.
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I like to take it a bit further.. disirregardlessly is one I like to throw out from time to time just to be a fool.
Oh.. while we are on the topic.. I don't like how many people mess up the phrase "I couldn't care less". Instead they say "I could care less."
When someone tells me they could care less, I take it to mean that they care.. because it is possible for them to care less.
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Or, as regards the pending fate of many, many Claxton fruitcakes, "re-gift." LOL.
In all fairness to the distinguished barrister from Louisiana however, I think what he is objecting to is not so much the apparent transmogrification of the common noun, bad enough as that is, but the air of pretense that surrounds the use of the word "gift" as a verb, e.g., "I gifted him a Model 19-4," sounds just awful compared to the much more plain, and straightforward, "I gave him a Model 19-4." I am, it must be said, immediately suspicious of people who ape British usage in an effort to sound better than the rest of us.
Now, I challenge any man-jack among you to refudiate this sentiment.
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I say, old chap, after donning my monocle for a closer look, I'm afraid that you have, one hopes, mistakenly adopted the Sarah Palin malapropism "refudiate" --- a word never known in Olde or modern English. To refute is to prove wrong, such as "the notion that the Earth is flat has long since been refuted", and to repudiate is to reject, refuse to accept or acknowledge, etc., e.g., "sensible people repudiate most of what Speaker Pelosi stands for."
If you think that on this forum you can get away with just making up words as you go, you have seriously misunderestimated us.
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"To GlocK" Any translations? As in I just Glocked myself.
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Some of my work involves chasing deadbeat parents. I hear babydaddy and babymomma so much that I even used the terms on a police report several weeks ago. I was in a hurry. I guess it's a good thing I edit before I hit save. I had a person tell me she was the babygrandmomma not long ago. You apparently don't have to be married or single to earn the title.
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Another thing that's changed is a tidal wave has become a tsunami.
What self-respecting english speaking person says SueNomMe?
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Me, for one, anytime I have occasion to comment on the local occurrence of the phenomena...
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I say, old chap, after donning my monocle for a closer look, I'm afraid that you have, one hopes, mistakenly adopted the Sarah Palin malapropism "refudiate" --- a word never known in Olde or modern English.
If you think that on this forum you can get away with just making up words as you go, you have seriously misunderestimated us.
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These discussions of usage aren't new ---
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean --- neither more nor less."
"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so many different things."
"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master --- that's all."
From Alice Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll, published in the mid-nineteenth century...
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I favor the concept of "plain use," as opposed to "Palin use," an idea forever enshrined in my consciousness by former United States Senator Sam Ervin of North Carolina at the Watergate hearings in 1973. Challenged over a question of meaning by John Erlichman's lawyer, Ervin famously retorted, "Because I can understand the English language. It's my mother tongue!"
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Geez, CAJ,
How come you axe such hard questions??
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Caje, I know exactly what you mean. I started a thread entitled "Is literacy dead?" on another gun forum. If you are cold you should go look and feel the flames.
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One of the ones that has irked me for some time . . . . how can you take someone seriously that cannot manage to master a one syllable word ?
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"CCW". The all purpose non-word on gun boards. It's a noun. It's a verb. It's an adjective. It's an adverb.
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Today's elementary school teachers do not know the correct form of: to, too, or two. There, their, they're you go.
An 8 hour government sponsored training class filled with, "Axe me anything" was just too much!
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OK, OK so it's in the dictionary-but I NEVER heard anyone use gift as a verb up until a couple of years ago and I'll wager that neither did any of you. Ano until we heard some basketball player saying "he disrespected me" or some rapper going "Yo Yo Yo don't nobody be dissin' my babbymomma" nobody ever used the word in that manner either.
Next we are going to talk about how to prperly conjugate and use the verb "To Be"
It is NOT:
I be
You be
He be
I would love to go through a whole dat in court hearing
I am
You are &
He is
but alas I fear I would have more luck finding the .22 cal registered magnum.
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Since when did the word gift go from a noun to a verb????
Is it now " I gifted my friend a gift" as opposed to "I gave my friend a gift"
Same thing with disrespect. You treat someone with disrespect-you don't disrespect them-although it appears that this little abomination has snuck in and become entrenched.
Oh and what's with this "Fisher" stuff. It's fisherman for cryin out loud. And don't call the Hatteras a Sportsfisher-it's a sportfisherman-or using the older terminology a convertible.
I'm feeling a bit cranky this evening.
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I'm with you on this one. The words gift and disrespect were never used as verbs when I was learning the English language. Of course, there are a lot of new words and phrases in common usage today that were unthought of in the 1950's. My father assured me during the 1960's that the country was rapidly going to hell in a handbasket. I wonder what he'd think today.
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Surely the Feds have "gifted" a research lab or two with a few million of your tax dollars to study this phenomenon. Reports due in about ten years.
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This forum seems to be several cuts above others I frequent. Two are archery forums and many posters seem to be functionally illiterate. They have no concept of spelling, grammar, sentence structure, or punctuation. It's not uncommon to have one long rambling run on paragraph with no punctuation and tons of spelling errors.
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UNLOOSEN!!!!
UN=oposite!
LOOSEN=to loose!
UNLOOSEN=TIGHTEN!!!
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This forum seems to be several cuts above others I frequent. Two are archery forums and many posters seem to be functionally illiterate. They have no concept of spelling, grammar, sentence structure, or punctuation. It's not uncommon to have one long rambling run on paragraph with no punctuation and tons of spelling errors.
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Sir, I had a pet peeve once. It needed far more exercise than I expected, and was just terrible on a leash.
Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.
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THE NEW ABRIDGED MEDICAL DICTIONARY
ACUTE PAIN: cute girls pinch u.
ARTERY: The study of paintings.
ARTHRITIS: Art of through rude terror by stupids
BACTERIA: Back door to cafeteria.
BARIUM: What doctors do when patients die.
BENIGN: What you are after you are eight.
CESEREAN SECTION: A neighborhood in Rome.
CANCER: Can be transferred.
CAT SCAN: Searching for kitty.
CAUTERIZE: Made eye contact with her.
COLIC: A sheep dog.
COMA: A punctuation mark.
D&C: Where Bill Clinton lives.
DILATE: To live longer.
ENEMA: Not a friend.
FESTER: Quicker.
FIBULA: A small lie.
GENITAL: Non-Jewish person.
G.I. SERIES: World Series of military baseball.
HANGNAIL: Coat hook.
HEADACHE: Head of all kind of Cake.
IMPOTENT: Distinguished, well known.
JEALOUS: Always fall on others.
LABOR PAIN: Get hurt at work.
MEDICAL STAFF: A doctor's cane.
MORBID: A higher offer.
NITRATES: Cheaper than day rates.
NODE: Was aware of.
OUTPATIENT: A patient who fainted.
PAP SMEAR: A fatherhood test.
PELVIS: Cousin to Elvis.
PILES: Pivotal files.
POST OPERATIVE: A letter carrier.
RECOVERY ROOM: A place to do upholstery.
RECTUM: Dang near killed 'em.
SECRETION: Hiding something.
SEIZURE: Roman emperor.
TABLET: A small table.
TERMINAL ILLNESS: Getting sick at the Bus Station
TERMINAL ILLNESS: Getting sick at the airport.
TERMINAL ILLNESS: Getting sick at your computer.
TUMOR: More than one.
URINE: Opposite of "You're out".
VARICOSE: Near by/close by.
VEIN: Conceited.
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And while we are on pet peeves, when did elementary schools cease to teach the difference between "there", "their", and "they're"???
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In the southeast, we simply say "thare".
It fits all three places.
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In the southeast, we simply say "thare".
It fits all three places.
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What part of the southeast you from? 'Round here we got three distinct words.
They's
They'uns
Thar
They's fixing to get in they'uns car and drive over thar.
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What part of the southeast you from? 'Round here we got three distinct words.
They's
They'uns
Thar
They's fixing to get in they'uns car and drive over thar.
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Thems 'bout covers i'tall, 'ceptin' a tad here an' thar.
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What part of the southeast you from? 'Round here we got three distinct words.
They's
They'uns
Thar
They's fixing to get in they'uns car and drive over thar.
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Weer in Appalachee-uh.
Yure a flatlander.
Thare fixin to git in thare car an drive over thare(sic- yonder is more correct).
See- it fits all three places....
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Most of those don't bother me that much anymore but I can't help but cringe when I hear someone say heighth.
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