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Yahoo is showcasing this story..a father whipping his 16 year old daughter for illegally pirating media from the internet...although they actually say he's beating his child. The media portrays this as child abuse, citing some doctor from a university saying that whippings using objects such as belts are usually deemed beyond normal physical punishment.

Personally, I got worse whippings than this just for smarting off. And just for the record, belts don't hurt as bad as hickory limbs... just thought I'd see if anyone else ever got whipped.



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I think if there were "belt to butt" action, we would have a lot less crime and gang problems.

Still, I think some things should not be videoed.
 
Kids need limits, and consequences for not heeding them. I don't think there was a kid in my neighborhood growing up who didn't get whipped once or twice a week, and some of us made it an everyday thing......or so it seemed.

Somehow, it didn't warp my fragile little eggshell mind, turn me into a psychopath, or make me hate my parents. I guess I didn't appreciate what a poor, tragic "victim" I was.

Show me a loudmouthed, insolent brat, and I'll show you a parent who is trying too hard to be the kid's best friend to actually do any parenting. My kids got yelled at, swatted, and sometimes turned over my knee. They're all just fine. Or at least they pretend to be. ;)
 
my dad used to kick my ***, i thank him all
the time for keeping me straight through the
early years.

if i posted a video about my dad whipping me. let
me tell you, when he would get a hold of me later
O BOY talk about a whippin.

thanksgiving should be a lot of fun for that family this year...
 
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I heard the audio, and that was enough for me. If its real, I hope he goes to jail.

I know lots of folks believe in corporal punishment. I don't, but I have no real problem with it within boundaries.

This guy just loses it. He's swearing at her, dropping f-bombs, and is not in control of himself. I lost count of the whacks at 15. He says he'll "beat her into submission". According to the audio, he's angry because she put a game on the computer.

Just because someone else got beat worse doesn't make this right. If a kid gets beaten like this and grows up to do it to his kids, he didn't "turn out all right".

I suspect this guy is like most child abusers I deal with - a weak person who needs to dominate someone.

He makes me sick.
 
The father says he lost his temper. That tells me the beating was to satisfy his anger rather than a thoughtful exercise in child discipline. IMO, an angry parent would do well to chill before discipline is dispensed, physical or otherwise.
 
This is child abuse, IMO. In the first place, she is well past the age where a spanking is appropriate or effective. I spanked our children when they were young, as was I spanked as a child. I think spanking has its place in child discipline. However, spanking should only be done when age appropriate, and also when the parent is in control of his or her emotions. This father obviously has some rage issues, and his repeated use of profanity and threats to hit her in the face and other parts of her body, plus the prolonged and repeated spanking, is completely out of line and totally wrong.

Ask yourself: is this a video you would want seen by family and friends depicting how you discipline your child?
 
I don't like it. A bully is all he is. You don't take a strap to your daughter's bare legs to punish her for downloading a video game.
 
Right out of the bible no less, "Spare the rod, spoil the child!"
 
Been dealing with children, youth and families since 1982 as a full-time vocational minister. This is not appropriate parental discipline. This is pure and simple abuse for which there is no excuse. As a minimum the father needs serious professional help. Unless and until he is able to demonstrate credible and significant change... he does not need to have uncontrolled access to his daughter. The daughter and mother need professional help so that they can best move on with their lives. Sad situation.
 
feralmerril said:
Right out of the bible no less, "Spare the rod, spoil the child!"
Click to expand...

Actually, that is a line from a 17th century poem called "Hudbras" by Samuel Butler, and isn't in the Bible (it is commonly misquoted as a Biblical reference):

“What medicine else can cure the fits
Of lovers when they lose their wits?
Love is a boy by poets styled
Then spare the rod and spoil the child.”

The actual Bible verse is:

“Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.” [Proverbs 13:24] This isn't an instruction for corporeal punishment; the Hebrew word used in this verse for "discipline" was also used in many other verses, and always (in context) translated as instruction or correction. The "rod" in this case is symbolic of the authority of the head of the household, and his responsibility to properly raise the children of the household.
 
A 16 year old girl? He should be horse whipped. He's an abuser, not being a good parent. It was very distasteful to see that, very sad and sickening.

Lefty
 
The problem for me is that the guy is a family law judge passing judgment on others about how they raise their kids, handle their anger and deal with family situations. I don't believe he should be prosecuted, but he should be removed from the bench. At the very least, he should be reassigned from family law. Let him handle traffic court or something. JMHO

Oh, by the way, I was whipped with a belt a few times when I was young (under 11 years old). However, my dad was never red-faced mad when he did it. I personally believe this guy crossed the line doing this to a 16 year old girl. Not to point of unlawful, but he's still a jerk in my book. Again, JMHO
 
I find a few things suspicious and indicative.
the tape is cut and looped for your ghoulish pleasure
and then we have some other actions ...
Judge: "Go get me the belt"
mother in a scene soon after is standing there with said belt.
not sure how it works in TX but I can tell you my wife has a mind of her own and will use it to tell me to get bent.
her actions support the whippin ... and it seems she believes it justified.
I can only assume there is a few chapters worth of back story left untold therefore, im leaving it alone
 
My mom passed away when I was 6 from cancer, and until my dad remarried, I had quite a few belts to the behind. I wasn't doing my homework, lied about report cards and notes sent home about my lack of interest in school, etc. I was not "bad" per se, just a terrible student. Education meant the world to my dad, so he tried to beat an education into me.

Dad was frustrated, never home, and over his head raising a boy on his own. I was grieving, and had trouble sleeping with really bad nightmares so I spent a lot of the time daydreaming trying to escape the loss of my mom.

Did it work? NO. What got me to eventually straighten out and become more responsible was the long-term example setting of my dad showing me what a good work ethic is, always showing and telling me to do the very best I could do no matter if I was doing something mundane or important. THAT's what worked.

I will never hit/spank/whip my boy. At almost 3 years old he is very well behaved and does extremely well in school (language immersion school). Some of his good behavior is his natural disposition, but I think most of it is my wife and I setting clear (and standardized) rules, consistent application of the rules, and instant consequences for infractions (every child has something they covet that you can use as leverage).

Consequences have to be quickly an unfailingly applied and appropriate for the infraction. If you threaten and never follow up, oh-oh! Even if the consequence is you sacrificing something you want, it must be done, and done right away.

Children want boundaries. Yes, he always pushes boundaries. That's the job of kids! Its ours to keep standards, be consistent, and always back each other up (mommy and daddy gotta be on same page).

Of course, YMMV!
 
the mother was also involved in the whipping and the girl has cerebral palsy. this guy needs to go a few rounds with a mixed martial arts expert.
 
A lot of abusers/beaters use that quote to justify their violent actions. I doubt that God condones such excessive discipline as seen on the video.

Charlie

feralmerril said:
Right out of the bible no less, "Spare the rod, spoil the child!"
Click to expand...
 
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