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Old 12-21-2011, 09:50 PM
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Here in the collective Illinoiz, we have to have a Firearms Owner I.D. (identification for short go figure) to buy a tazer. Is this common among your states?
I have bought a couple of faux cell phones for my wife and daughter for Christmas presents that Taze and I needed to have a one day wait like buying a rifle. Plus when i give these to my wife and daughter, I'm going to transfer them like guns........Really??

Let me know what's going on in your part of the country.

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I was raised in central Illinois (Decatur, and went to the U of I in Champaign/Urbana), but haven't lived there in 30 years.

In 1991 I was at Quantico while my wife and baby son stayed with my parents. I asked her to pick me up a handcuff case. Not handcuffs - a leather case.

The guy at the gunshop wouldn't sell her one since she didn't have an FOID.

She later found a more reasonable guy and got the case. She was surprised, I wasn't.

There used to be an advertising campaign slogan: Just outside Chicago, there's a place called Illinois. That city sure has messed up a perfectly good state.
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Old 12-22-2011, 11:42 AM
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We don't even have a FOID - let alone requiring one to buy a taser.

And sig, your "cuff case" story. I was at Walmart, in the free state of Florida. The leather case for my Leatherman had worn out, and I bought a nylon replacement. Just hanging on a hook in sporting goods. But, when it went across the scanner, the register stopped and asked, "Is customer 18 years old?"

It wasn't a knife, it was a knife POUCH. But the wouldn't have sold it to me if I hadn't been at least 18.

Stupidity appears to be rampant.
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Thank God for Virginia, the Mother of Presidents. How do people live in states like New York, Kalifornia, Wisconsin, Michigan, Massachusetts and Illinois? A felon cannot possess a taser in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Period. Everybody else can.
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Sorry ya'll live in such a Draconian state....I was just on Handgunlaw.us and I think Illinois is the most self-protection restricted place in North America (Canada included).

If ever a "revolution" was warrented it would be in Illinois.

My hunting buddies and I have been driving through Illinois yearly on I-70, to hunt elk in Colorado, and I've always been concerned about a traffic stop or heaven forbid an accident where our guns would be confiscated (we don't always stop before we enter the state to make sure we are compliant with the Illinois law) .....looks to me that ya'll can't have a rubberband gun without a "FOID" or whatever the state calls it!!!!

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Thank God for Virginia, the Mother of Presidents. How do people live in states like New York, Kalifornia, Wisconsin, Michigan, Massachusetts and Illinois? A felon cannot possess a taser in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Period. Everybody else can.
What's wrong with WI? We have CCW now, can own, tazers (with ccw)if for whatever reason you'd want one, full auto and short barrel rifles/shotguns. Gun owner wise, we're pretty good.
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I have bought a couple of faux cell phones for my wife and daughter for Christmas presents that Taze and I needed to have a one day wait like buying a rifle.
Those sound more like stunguns than tasers.
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In Oregon to buy a gun you have to pass a background check which generaly takes 1-3 minutes. Ammo, tazers, stun guns, etc.? As long as you have money your "good to go".

I've never been to Illinois, it may be in ways a nice place. But I think I'd defect to America.
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Those sound more like stunguns than tasers.
You are correct. Taser is a trade name. Stunguns are what the cellphone units are. This makes me want to check the requirements actually are.

Q. Aren't Stun guns and TASER devices the same thing?
A. No. Stun guns and TASER devices are different. As a matter of fact, "TASER" is a trademarked name from TASER International, which also is a publicly traded company. TASER International is the company who makes all the TASER devices for law enforcement throughout the country. It is easy to distinguish the two, if we don't call it a TASER on our site, it is NOT a TASER. TASER is the only product in the market which you can use at a distance. All TASER civilian models can be used within a maximum of 15 feet. All stun guns require direct contact. It doesn't matter what voltage or what shape. Even though you have to make direct contact to the person with a stun gun, stun guns are still very effective when it comes to stopping an attack. It is definitely better than bare handed. We will go into detail on how stun gun works in a little bit.

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Personally I would rather have pepperspray than a stun gun. I would want distance on my side, rather than having to have contact.
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Anyone who has used a chemical agent knows that once you deploy it, you're gonna get some of it on yourself. Tasers can be used effectively at roughly the same distance as a chemical agent and are effective immediately. Both have their drawbacks but I'll take a Taser over a spray can.

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Illinois gun shops have gone thru some really bad times in the last 20 years. Cook County includes Chicago and the counties that surround Cook are referred to as the "collar counties". I can think of 20+ shops that have closed. The ones closest to the Chicago border have survived only because they are the only access to guns for legal purchase. You can buy it but you can't take it back to Chicago (in theory). Daley, Shummer(sp?) and the rest of the anti gun blowhards really came on strong in the mid nineties. Lawsuits and the incessant pressure from the TV morons forced Gunshops around Chicago to establish store policies that still exist today.
There are stores in Illinois that won't let someone from Indiana in the door.
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Illinois gun shops have gone thru some really bad times in the last 20 years. Cook County includes Chicago and the counties that surround Cook are referred to as the "collar counties". I can think of 20+ shops that have closed. The ones closest to the Chicago border have survived only because they are the only access to guns for legal purchase. You can buy it but you can't take it back to Chicago (in theory). Daley, Shummer(sp?) and the rest of the anti gun blowhards really came on strong in the mid nineties. Lawsuits and the incessant pressure from the TV morons forced Gunshops around Chicago to establish store policies that still exist today.
There are stores in Illinois that won't let someone from Indiana in the door.
I work in a gun shop located in Cook county. My boss told me there used to be something like 200 or 300 gun shops in Crook county; now, there's six thanks to the Daley machine.

Our place is still in business because the city in which it's located went to Home Rule and no longer is subject to those crazy laws/ ordnances passed at 2am.
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