I need a new gas can so I'm at Lowes and EVERYONE of them has some kind of new locking device pour spout on them. SO I buy one and I wind up spilling more gas than I have ever spilled before from the old fashioned one trying to figure out how the *&^%$^ thing works
So I root through the trash and find the old gas tank with the split and salvage the old pour spout from it. Sheesh do we now have to start hoarding pre lock gas can spouts too???????
BTW how long has this foolishness been going on????? I haven't bought a new gas can since Hurricane Lillie.

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Is it the self venting kind with the yellow cap on the pour spout?

You need to line the arrows up. I can't see them so marked them with a black Sharpie.

They have been around for several years.

OR is it this strange looking thing????

Shop Blitz 5-Gallon Plastic Gas Can at Lowes.com

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Still Running Against the Wind

I still use a METAL 5 GAL SAFETY CAN that my father gave me decades ago.

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I found out about them when I bought mom the new chainsaw. Had to get a small can for the mix. What a mess. Couldn't they grandfather us old farts and start those off for the kids?

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Oh yes, don't you just love the care and concern for the planet, of course we can't have the odd fume wafting into the air we need a new gas can. You know the kind that will spill more fuel on the ground than ends up in the tank, what progress what genius. I hold on to my old gas cans like they were gold plated and will likely put them in my will. I love the planet as much as the next dirt worshiper but can't we be reasonable. I be the dope that designed that can never ever filled a tank with anything.

There's a nozzle extension for them (more $$, btw) that you really have to have if it has the short nozzle.
With the short nozzle there's no way to put gas into a car without the extension.
I have always used a foot long (or so) piece of fuel proof plastic tubing to extend the nozzle on fuel cans, but they seem to have caught onto this trick and the short nozzles are now a weird OD and I can't find any tubing that fits

Ain't *progress* wonderful?

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P.S. Keep those old nozzles!
They still fit the new cans.
(the can mfgrs WILL figure it out and change the threads eventually)

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Pre-lock Smiths, now Pre-Lock gas cans?!?!?

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EPA, treehuggers .nuff said?

Caj do like I do and hit the garage sales & flea mkts for every old gas can you can find!

The old metal ones are the best, got several for Kerosene & gas + mixed gas.

Don't give in to PC - go down swingin'!

GF

As long as we're here, how about those low flush toilets. Nothing saves water like flushing twice because the first flush doesn't get it done.
I love my Uncle Sam but sometimes he can be a real PITA especially when those libs get his attention.

New "gas cans" are worthless. "Utility cans" are not. Although expensive and only four gallons, this particular utility can has many useful features I like. Oh yeah, "not available for sale in California" should tell you something.

"Duh." The new spouts are lawyer proof.

Yup, M & P Freak has it correct. Get a "utility can" designated for off-road use.

You are off the road, right?

Yes the new cans are totally off the wall. You MIGHT not have a vapor leak but you will spill & waste more gas on the ground than you ever did with the old cans.

I have a collection of different shapes, diameter and lengths funnels so I can actually get the gas out of the can to where it’s got to go. I just take everything off the can and pure direct with the aid of funnels to where I want the gas to go


My old nozzles do not fit the newer type cans so I make do with the above mentioned funnels. Between my toys (snow mobiles, boat, ATV) and lawn/snow equipment, chain saws portable generator and vehicles I have at least 15 items that can require can type filling.

I live out a ways in the boonies and a prudent person knows that snow or ice storms and other major problems mandates that you keep a bunch of gas on hand for those problems + filling all the smaller equipment.

Because of the ethanol **** now polluting our gas you also have to add Stable or other costly chemicals just to keep your gas fresh. I will save that for another rant!

I just bought 3 more 5 gallon cans and they had a totally different Rube Goldberg spout that was different from any others of the new style cans I had. Fixed them by using a 3/4 drill and going from both sides drilled out all the junk that made the spouts almost impossible to use. Pieces of springs, plastic trap door parts and other useless stuff was removed by the drilling process. Now they work just like the older ones did.

AH PROGRESS

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From the ad...

• Provides airtight seal when not in use
• Automatic venting system

Contradition you say?

Makes about as much sense as Fire-Safe Cigarettes.

Not cheap, but you get what you pay for.
Scribner 5 Gallon Utility Jug [76-2000] - $24.99 : Vick Racing Outfitters, Every Race Starts Here

Spout is extra.

This....just did 2 that way.

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Now there will be a website called the Gascan Forums..
Sponsored by Blitz, the noozle for the future... ( YES I KNOW)
We will be lining the ....things up in the front yard taking pic's of them...Telling everyone about our latest yardsale find...OH it's gonna be awesome....KB

Red and yellow stuff everywhere in the garage....

I thought you was Cajun??

Just stick a tube in the car gas tank and suck on it to siphon like the good old days.

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Reminds me of the current generation of push or self-propelled lawnmowers. Let go of handle - it shuts off. Our nation has become so sue-happy that everything on the market nearly has changed to 'protect the user'.
Makes ya wonder where we'll be in, say 40 years or so....?

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SWCA #2275

I keep funnels on hand for everything now, for this very reason. When I bought my house I found a nice old Sinclair gas can with the big dinosaur right on the side, older than dirt but hey it gets the job done. Remember, the government is here to protect us from ourselves.

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I'm way ahead of the curve here. I scarfed these up at a flea market for $1 each. Awesome Flea mkt about 20 miles south of Louisville on I-65. Never know what you'll find there but always plenty of dogs, birds, produce, guns, and the bottoms are a mix of flea mkt regulars and then the garage sale private individuals. This is one days haul.

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NYlakesider brought up the ethanol gas, the small engine repair guys are making a fortune from all the engine carbuetors that were not drained!! Even though I used StaBil in my gas, all my stuff had to go to the shop for clean out and repair. But wait it gets better!!!! You can buy ethanol free gasoline pre mixed for chain saws/leaf blowers. It is sold by the Quart, and it is about $3.00 (if I remember correctly). Ain't the US great, people hungry and we are using corn for fuel instead. Back to the gas cans, I got rubber gloves to use when I mess with those stupid new cans and yes I always spill more than I get in the tank.

What color prop rod do you use with a gas can ?

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I needed a small one gallon gas can for a trimmer for mixed gas. I ended up with that same Blitz gas can but in the one gallon size. You have to pop the top off, hold a lever back on the side, and figure out how to pour the gas. I've never spilled so much gas in my life. That thing amost makes refilling the tank a two person process. PITA.

You can buy a "plug" for the new spout if you don't like it or trust that it will function properly in an emergency situation. From what I see on YouTube the plug is pretty easy to install.

I have a couple newer cans that I think are actually quite handy. A five gallon "unvented" can that has a hook on the spout - the hook catches the lip of the tank you're pouring into, the weight slightly depresses the spout and allows it to pour and vent through the same spout....when you stand the can up, the spout lifts back up and seals - no caps or vent plugs necessary, and works like a charm. Also, a smaller mix can with a push button like on some keg taps - tip the can over, put the spout into those tiny tanks like chainsaws and trimmers, and pust the button once or twice...never a spill or overfill.

See... What did I tell ya was gonna happen!!!
KB

I know the subject is stupid gas cans, but the newer diesel cans are no better. I just came back from putting a few gallons in my 31HP diesel tractor. The cans are equipped with the new improved nozzles, but as the tank fills from the top of the tractor I use the funnel trick as in my other post and just pour it in with the junk stuff removed from the can.

Just examined the workings of the nozzle and looks like I will drill those out also so as to eliminate the need to use a funnel.

Some of my other newer gas cans have a different style nozzle and the drill trick will not work on them.

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Welcome to Kalifornistan. We've had those (insert bannable descriptive phrase here) for quite some time. I discovered them when my old plastic can split.

Hope yours works out better than mine. The threads on the new cans here are deliberately made non compatable with the old nozzles.

You can thank the state of California for this SNAFU with gas cans. The Fed adopted their rules with almost no changes. Problems with California cans have been known for some time, i.e., holding a 5 gallon can up while dribbling the fuel out. The spouts are open longer due to the slower flow, so more vapors get out. Spillage is more common.

When I first started reading about the push to go to CA standards, I bought several 1 gallon plastic cans and several surplus NATO 20 liter cans cheap. The NATO cans have a very efficient seal, and their nozzles have little leakage, especially pouring into an auto gas tank. I fill the smaller cans with an auto-siphon, an accessory I heartily recommend.

By the way, I have recently seen a supply of lighter green NATO cans at some surplus stores. Be very careful with these. Some of them have been painted, inside and out, with paint soluble in gasoline. I assume you wouldn't like that in your car or mower.

Buck

That's the beast

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Well, I've not run into anything like that were I go shopping. We're back to the idea y'all have way too much money and maybe not enough common sense or nerve.

So back in the dark ages I worked a lot of Saturdays. Went in pretty darn much when I felt like it, stayed until I got bored, then headed out. Long ago I discovered the hobby of most people was getting drunk on Friday night and using their pay check for booze, not for fuel. So they'd run out on the local interstates. Then in a stupor, they'd hike to a filling station, buy a gas can and some fuel, then hike back to put in just enough to get them home. But they had a problem. Where to put the now empty gas can? So they'd leave it along side the road.

And that's where old Dick came in. I occupied the slow lane, going slow. And watching the side, over by the guard rail. Some of the cans were beat up, but even those mostly had a prime, old fashioned spout. So I'd pull over, walk back and score the whole assembly or just the spout.

Two years ago when momma built us a new house (using my retirement savings), I had a problem. The garage was the same size as before, but there was no pass thru to the top area. So sons rescued ole dad and cut one in. So one day oldest decided to help and had to put my collection up top. We only kept a few down where I could get to them.

I'm guessing my total cost wasn't really free. It probably costs a little fuel to pull over and shut the old jeep off, then a little more to start it back up and pull back out. But I have the fun of cleaning up the interstate, and getting cool new stuff.

I've also got a few 'single use' cans. They're marketed to convenience stores. They hold one gallon and are made from cardboard with a plastic bladder inside. And a nice old fashioned hose with nothing but a cap to cover the business end. Those were returned from someplace that didn't trust them. At one time I had a half dozen of them. I've given them to neighbors, my son that travels, etc. But I just saw one yesterday, so I've got one left.

The gas can's I use have to be 30 years old or more. I once had a collection of 5 gallon cans. I've been slowly replenishing them. Now I understand why I can't find them. They're out of production. I had a half dozen or more of them back in 2005. But then I bought a new Jeep and they gave me a credit card worth Gawd knows how many gallons. I put all I had at the time in my jeep and went to a filling station, one with the lowest price fuel in town. Then I filled every one of them up and drove over to my son's house. He'd just bought a "new-to-him" motorhome. I did have enough fuel to get it to his house from the place he bought it. So we just poured 35 or 40 gallons of liquid gold in his tank. But then he kept my cans as if they were his! Haven't seen them since.

Lets see, I'm surely not gonna make it another 30 years. So all I really need are 2 replacements, one for straight fuel and another for 2 stroke. Long before I croak I figure I won't be playing with 2 stroke toys anyway. Must be a dozen or more 1 and 2 gallon cans up in the top of the garage. And at least a handful of 5 gallon ones. Total cost a few pennies to pull over and pick them up.

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Instead of blaming EPA...look back to the companies that load up gasoline with MTBE and other goodies that get into groundwater. MTBE is to increase oxygen in the burn to get higher performance from fuel at a given octane rating [much since the removal of lead from gasoline]...but at a cost.

Then again, places like LA and Houston and Atlanta don't look like they did in the 1960s with awesome green air. For those who like nostalgia...Mexico City or Beijing are good choices. I recommend a metric boatload of Visine if you go to Beijing, however, your eyes will burn for weeks.

I actually threw my back out using one if them. I'm left handed, the can was full (30+ pounds). To use it I have to cross-handed hold the lock back with two fingers, hold the trigger down with the heel of the same hand, grab a handle as best I can with the other hand, extend the whole thing in front of me, bend over to the height of the tank, and POW!

I was out of commission for a week.

Problem is the EPA forced the use of cans that are the cause more MTBE spillage onto the ground.

y'all need to understand that this product has been tested and approved by a certified agency.

the government has determined that the new designed gas can will save the planet, make you look younger, give you more energy, help you lose weight, increase your earning power, enhance your sex drive and eliminate world hunger.

I'm glad I'm not the only one, I spill gas all over the mower. The other day I couldn't remember if the damn thing was a push or a pull or turn, and pulled the thing apart. I'm so glad they're protecting me from myself, but with gas at $3.90 I'm getting pretty tired of slopping and spilling as much as I get into the mower!

I may shock you here, but those are the "old" type spouts we long for. The "new" ones have some kind of spring loaded Rube Goldberg looking thing that has to be "turned while pushing down" or some other nonsense. I have yet to use it without spilling gas.

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Yeh..I bought one of the new 'human proof' one gallon gas-cans the other day...

Really I think you just need to be a liberal/progressive/nanny-state/greenpeacer with a degree in climate change to figure out how to make it pour gas...

I like the planet, too, and try to do the right thing, but I take a perverse satisfaction in the fact that sometimes these newfangled things invented by tree-hugging BS artists spill more than the the originals. I am not necessarily averse to even adding a little spill, gratis. It will take more gasoline than I own to doom the planet, or even the species (ANY species).

On a positive note, just gas up your lawn equipment anyplace you don't want grass or weeds to grow.
If you have a weed poking up through a sidewalk, gas up there.
Your spillage will kill off unwanted growth, etc.
You're going to spill gas anyways, you might as well kill some weeds in the process.

Mayor Bloomberg wants to require the new gas cans for Coca Cola products.

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In pint sized containers.

Mayor Blumbug is a gas bag, close enough


With the stupid new unvented cans leave one in the sun while you work for a while...

Even ones in the garage filled in the winter swell up when it gets warm.

How come we tolerate this stuff?

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$19 delivered for a plastic spout? The gas cans don't cost that much.

I like the yardsale idea the best. I even found a behind the seat pre-lock style can at my local NAPA store on sale. It is shaped just right to fit behind the seat in a pickup (empty, of course).

I ain't buying no $19 plastic tube.

Was just on the news tonight that Blitz Inc. in Miami Ok., is shutting down after 46 years of making gas cans. July 1st they will shut down. The manager said they had filed for bankruptcy. There are 42 open lawsuits against them as of now, over the nozzle issues. Thanks EPA.

Just stick with the good old metal jerry cans. I don't own anything that takes a tiny spout. just good old big gas or diesel fillers.