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Hostage situation in AL is over.
Apparently the negotiations weren't going well and the kidnapper was seen holding a gun. The FBI entered the bunker. The child is safe and unharmed. The abductor is dead. I had a feeling that this wasn't going to end well, but it ended fairly well. I would have liked to see the suspect taken alive.
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I just read an article that this guy had a Marijuana arrest on his record. I think that the government should outlaw Marijuana to prevent this type of thing from happening again. Oh, wait. You mean Criminals don't follow laws?
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Sounds like a good ending to me. As long as the young child is ok, thats all that mattered there.
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Yeah only wished we could have gleaned some info out of the kidnapper before he was taken out. Why was he doing this random kidnapping? was it random? ptsd? too bad, oh well he is now answering the highest authority.
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Originally Posted by jaykellogg
Apparently the negotiations weren't going well and the kidnapper was seen holding a gun. The FBI entered the bunker. The child is safe and unharmed. The abductor is dead. I had a feeling that this wasn't going to end well, but it ended fairly well. I would have liked to see the suspect taken alive.
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"Taken alive" ?? The abductor's death in order to rescue the child probably saved the taxpayers of Alabama at least $1-$2 million dollars, considering the cost of capital murder prosecutions these days (preparation for and cost of trial and several appeals, incarceration cost, etc) -- and I don't think we would have learned anything meaningful from this criminal had he been captured alive other than his excuses for his conduct. My comments probably appear sanguine but I have no sympathy for someone who would take a very young child
hostage after killing a brave bus driver, and then holding that child in a tiny bunker for a week -- the abductor's quick death
has him getting off easy -- compared to the angst and trauma
the young boy will endure for years as a result of the kidnapping.
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I know the little boy had aspergers and ADD but I wonder if the old man talked to the boy and if the little one can pass along anything that was said. I am so glad the young boy made it out ok.
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Yeah only wished we could have gleaned some info out of the kidnapper before he was taken out. Why was he doing this random kidnapping? was it random? ptsd? too bad, oh well he is now answering the highest authority.
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I suspect that after 7 days of direct conversation and background on-hand, I'm guessing everything needed to be known was acquired. VERY happy the child is okay.
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the abductor's quick death
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You said it.
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A young boy lives. A dirtbag dies.
Fair trade.
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Good shoot.
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Prayers for the child....May this little one be able to put this all
behind him and that it not hinder this child in the years to come.
The kidnapper...Got what he bargained for.
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I bet the neighbors are glad this nut case won't be able to bother them any more.
To bad the man could not or would not get the help he needed.
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I saw a blurb in the paper today that said he had planned on killing all the children on the bus. Don't know where the writer got their info.
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Good to hear, i hadnt seen that it was over yet.
I believe it was Ted Nugent who said "I dont like repeat offenders, i like dead offenders."
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Thanks God the boy made it out of this alive. I trust that the emotional wounds will heal.
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I saw a blurb in the paper today that said he had planned on killing all the children on the bus. Don't know where the writer got their info.
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Like much of what's in the media these days, it's likely made up.
The only what that this could have ended better would have been if the bus driver hadn't been killed. Frankly I'm tired of people wanting to know the motives of these criminals. Motive only matters to commentators who want to blame anyone but the perpetrator.
Criminals do criminal things because they have no regard for the law.
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This guy wanted something, though. He specifically wanted hostages (ages 6-8). He knew the bus driver. Apparently he was trying to get a reporter in the bunker to tell his story.
It ended as well as it could have. I'm glad the little boy is free. The LEOs, from all areas, did a great job.
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Let's all think some kind thoughts and thankfulness to the brave bus driver and his family.
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I think this is the best possible outcome. Why do we want to know what his motivation was? I don't really care about his background, his childhood, whether or not he had PTSD, if his mommy spanked him, or anything else. He was a monster, a low life murderer who harmed children. Shooting was too good for him, and our laws do not allow what he really deserved.
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Why?
He'd already murdered one person, kidnapped a child and played games with the cops for days.
Was he ever likely to stop detracting from society, never mind contribute anything to it? I don't see it happening.
He would have either turned the proceedings into a joke for months, then either been found guilty by reason of insanity, or sat in prison for decades, on or off death row. And the tax payers would have paid for the whole thing, while his attorney tried (probably with some success) to generate sympathy for him
Once he killed that bus driver, him ending up dead, either at his own hand or those of the cops was the best outcome.
I don't waste my compassion on those who don't deserve it. The bus driver did. He didn't.
Good riddance.
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I think this is the best possible outcome. Why do we want to know what his motivation was? I don't really care about his background, his childhood, whether or not he had PTSD, if his mommy spanked him, or anything else. He was a monster, a low life murderer who harmed children. Shooting was too good for him, and our laws do not allow what he really deserved.
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I keep hearing those with defective reasoning abilities claim that such people should be "studied".
We study fruit flies.
We don't preserve and study EVERY fruit fly.
We spray most of them with insecticide.
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