The Hardy Boys

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Anybody here have kids or grandkids that read The Hardy Boys? I have a question or two.

The Hardys were written back in the 20s. And about the middle of the 50s they were all re-written. Times had changed. People’s attitudes had changed. Much of the “normal racism” of the 20s was no longer “normal”, and it was removed. Technology had improved, and the newer things were added.

I’m sure that they have been re-written at least once again, since it’s been 70 years, and I’m curious about a couple of things.

My first Hardy Boys was a birthday present in ’67. Mystery of the Devil’s Paw. Took place in Alaska. So before going up, Frank and Joe ditty-bopped over to the Army Surplus store and bought a couple of Springfield rifles. They were never mentioned again. They had no use in the story. But the idea of going up to Alaska – the Last Frontier – without bringing a rifle was foolish. So they bought guns. Now, these are high-school boys. 16 and 17 years old. After GCA68, they could not have bought the guns. Too young. And, since they weren’t really an important part of the story, I wondered if, in the latest version of the book, they even get them, or if Fenton buys them for the boys.

They meet a young Eskimo boy up there. Fleetwood (if I’m remembering correctly). Kid about their age. He talks like Tonto. “That right.” “Me do”. I wonder if he still talks like that, or if he speaks good English. He has to still be in the book – he was an important character.
 
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I read the ones written in the 60's when I was a kid in the late 70's and 80's. In the late 80's they came out with updated versions, but they weren't the same stories with a modern twist they were completely new stories. Some tech stuff, the 60's lingo was gone (no more talking about pulling boners). I haven't seen if there are even newer versions, but I suspect they also would be completely different and reflect the times.

Here is an interesting link about the stories. The Hardy Boys - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
I loved the Hardy Boys books growing up (in the mid 1970s).

Before we started having kids, I assembled a complete set of them, published mostly in the 1960s/70s -- thinking that some day my kids, should we ever have any, might like them.

Well, turns out we had two girls, and I was worried they might not be interested. My older (now in 3rd grade) is a voracious reader and to my great pleasure and surprise absolutely LOVES the Hardy Boys. She tried a Nancy Drew book and put it down in favor of the Hardys -- something about too much talking, not enough action.

Needless to say, I'm THRILLED!
 
This thread brings back a lot of memories. My uncle gave me 8 Hardy Boys books when I was around 8 or 9, and it turned out they were first editions. That would have been the early 60's, and I collected and read the Hardy Boy books into my mid teens. I remember one story, the title escapes me, where the brothers and some friends spend some time in a cabin during the winter, hunting foxes with .22 rifles. That seemed like high living to a kid from Detroit, and it really sparked my imagination. Other stories involved being armed with a .38 snubnose, although I don't think any other details were given on the make or model. And who could forget their boat, the "Sleuth"? As it turned out I had three daughters, no sons, and of course they weren't interested in the Hardy Boys. I ended up giving my collection to a nephew.
 
My family moved out of this trailer into a house, and my sister-in-law moved into the trailer. We were out there visiting one day, and I saw on a table my copy of Devil's Paw. I'm thinking, "Huh, musta left this here when we moved", and start to take it outside to put it in the truck, so it goes home with me. My niece, maybe ten at the time, says, "Where you going with my book?" I told her it was mine, she insisted it was hers. I opened it to the front, and showed her where it said, "To Ronnie, Happy Birthday, Love Mother and Daddy, 1967", and said, "It's MY book". But she looked so depressed that I gave it to her. That's been 20 years or so. Wonder if she's still got it.
 
I wonder if Callie and Chet's sister (can't remember her name) can still only cook and cheer the boys on when they're stuck?
 
I wonder if Callie and Chet's sister (can't remember her name) can still only cook and cheer the boys on when they're stuck?

Chet's sister was Iola.
The fact that I remembered that,right off the bat, is scary. I can't remember what I did this morning.:eek:

A few years ago I read the entire collection. I had most of them that got when I was a kid in the '70s, and my Dad had some when he was growing up in the '40s. You can buy them used on E-bay, and the older ones are really interesting.

Frank and Joe used guns several times. In "The Missing Chums" they were looking for their friends on Blacksnake Island. Their Dad, Fenton, gave them a couple of handguns and they used them to dispatch some snakes.

They were great to read growing up. That's probably why I became a Private Investigator. Well, that and Jim Rockford.:cool:
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I read some of the 1920's originals, a gift from an elderly neighbor when I was young. And I've read a few of the later ones. I recall the boys sometimes took a revolver on trips and I think they answered the door at night while armed in one book. I also read some of the Tom Swift books. Can't recall much about any of them.

I also read most of the Tazan books. I hope they never "update" those for PC purposes. I know that certain elements don't like them. And we no longer see jungle adventure comic books or mens' magazines with what were once traditional covers, with witch doctors and their evil minions about to sacrifice scantily clad white girls, with a hero in the background coming to the rescue. Times change, not always for the better.

One of my favorite TV shows as a kid was,"Ramar of the Jungle." You probably couldn't film it today, or, "Lives ofthe Bengal Lancers". Might have beeen the, "77th Bengal Lancers."

BTW, I know that Jon Hall as Ramar (pronouned as "Rama") carried what looked like a Mannlicher-Schonauer carbine. I bought a DVD with some shows on it, but they were so badly reprodued that I can't tell about the handguns. I think maybe Colt Official Police or M-1917 .45's. Does anyone know?

Jungle Jim was better as a comic book than as Johnny Weissmuller played him on TV, with a servant Malay who had become (for TV) a companion who spoke very cultured English. PC had begun, even in the 1950's. I can see in retrospect that TV was already being used to shape public perceptions.
 
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I have read many Hardy Boys books and I have the entire Tom Swift collection, as well as originals from the 1910s. I also have several 'Luck and Pluck' books from the 20's. They had no qualms about slinging racial epithets (though they were part of everyday speech). The 50's/60/s books were more discreet but still had some laughable stereotypes.
 
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