My wife and I got new bedroom furniture and I no longer have a end table next to my side of the bed for my drawer safe. So I am looking for a new and better safe with other mounting options. I have a stackon drawer safe now that has worked fine but has a digital key pad. I ran across a study online that posted in Forbes magazine showing how unsafe that design of safe is. The research I have done has led me to safes with the simplex lock design with no electronics for more security and reliability. The ones which come up the most are fas1 safes, V line safes, and fort knox safes. They are pricey but I have a son who is turning 3 and a newborn daughter so I want something very secure as they age and get curious. Please let me know any thoughts or advice you have on the mentioned safes or any others you may recommend I look at. Thanks for any input.

I guess I don't really get the small handgun safe deal. If a burglar finds it he can just carry it off unless its bolted down to concrete and they are easier to break into than a full size safe. If you want security from little ones I like to keep my gun in a pistol rug with a three tumbler padlock. I can then set the tumblers where I can touch two at a time with my thumb and give them the proper twist to open it in under a second in the dark. I also keep my Surefire 6P LED and Spyderco serrated knife next to it and if the lock somehow fails in an emergency, I just cut it off.

I was always told that if you have a bathroom off of your master bedroom, The place to put the pistol is on the side or back of the vanity under the sink. Nobody thinks to look there and what if you are in the bathroom when you hear someone breaking in. If someone breaks into your home, most burglers are not going to look in the bathroom vanity under the sink. The really ideal spot is above the door under the bathroom sink. It is out of sight and no one would know it is there except you. Just a thought and I hope this helps. PS- you would probably want a stainless gun for this app.

Im with him ^ on this. Those small safes are only good for a minor fire or flood. They are easy to break into with a crowbar and a hammer, about 20 seconds, and are easy to steal. The electronic ones can malfunction at the wrong time. I say just put the gun out of reach during the day. Like on the top shelf in the closet

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V-line Top Draw. Manual 5 button access, you set your own sequence and don't have to worry about batteries. Has mounting plate (separate) that works great.

Note that theft is not the primary concern here. OP wants to be sure his kids don't get to his beside gun.

I am liking this:
I bought it for air travel, but like it by my bed. No kids in the house, so at night I just leave it unlocked. I don't use the battery operation. Just the tubular key.

You could bolt it on to something. Also comes with braided steel cable to lock it onto something.

My dad used to do that. My brother and I would find 'em all over the place as kids...

I've got one of these. Works good as a bedside safe. Biggest concern for me is my teenagers and their friends that come over. I need to keep them safe and not overly concerned of theft in a burglary since it's a $400 Glock. I've got it heavily lag bolted into a stud at the head of the bed below the headboard. I can slip a hand between the headboard and mattress and grab it. Someone would have to find it first, then move the bed and pry it off the wall.

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That really gives me the "willies".

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Home invasion... pretty rare crime in my view. Kids shot with home handgun... pretty common. Lock up the handgun and get an ADT or other alarm system. Just my 2 cents...

An alarm by itself isn't the answer.

OP, get the V-Line. Buy once and be done with it.

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Yes, my point, exactly. Hiding guns from children does not work.

Might want to do a little research on that. I think you'll find that there are a LOT more home invasion robberies than there are kids shot with home handguns.

I suspect that your impression is based on the fact that EVERY time a kid shoots his brother or sister or friend with mom or dad's handgun it makes national news - because it fits the media's anti-gun agenda to report it. Very few home invasion robberies make national news - because that kind of a story might actually encourage more people to exercise their 2nd amendment rights. THAT would go directly against their agenda.

The Bureau of Justice statistics show that there are roughly 3.7 MILLION residential burglaries per year in the US and that in nearly 28% of them a household member is home at the time. That's over ONE MILLION incidents that would qualify by definition as a home invasion. In 60% of them the household member is a victim of violence. That is over SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND victims of violence in home invasions.

Since are less than 34,000 firearms deaths per year in the US, home invasions outnumber ALL firearms deaths by nearly 20 to 1. When you consider that over 11,000 of those firearms deaths are suicides, the percentage of all other firearms deaths to home invasions is more like 26 to 1. And that includes ALL non-suicide firearms deaths - murders, people shot by police, burglars shot by homeowners, hunting accidents, etc.

The fact is even the highest estimates of "children" killed by firearms is around 2,600 per year. Of course that is the loosest, most liberal definition of "child" - including gang bangers, and other criminals up to the age of 20 (all teens - including 19 year olds - get lumped into the category).

Even using that most liberal of definitions according to the anti-gun CDC there approximately 7,000 children killed or injured by firearms in the US annually. And the majority of those are either criminals (street thugs) or shot by criminals. Actual accidental firearms deaths of children number less than 200 per year.

So no matter how you slice it - 200 vs 600,000 or 7,000 vs. 1,000,000, or even 7,000 vs 600,000, home invasions and the frequency of violence during home invasions far, FAR outnumber the frequency of kids accidentally shot or killed with firearms.

I have one of those bolted to a bracket I fabricated and bolted to the bed rail. It is positioned at the head of the bed such that my right hand falls right on the key pad . A burglar would have to dismantle the bed and take the rail with the safe.

If I am away from home overnight the gun from that vault goes to the main safe.

A GUN ON A CLOSET SHELF IS A DEAD CHILD WAITING TO HAPPEN.

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I have no argument with your statistics, or your conclusions.

For me, the possibility of a child shooting someone, or him or her self, with an unattended gun of mine, is about a million times more concerning than a violent invasion of my home.

I prepare for the possibility of both.

And I assure you, in my case, a home invasion is about a million times more likely than a child shooting someone, or him or her self, with a gun of mine.