Why do gun sound effects sound so weak and fake in movies these days?

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Is it just me or do gun effects in movies seem very weak over the past 10 years or so?

They sound more like they're shooting a quick cap gun or fire cracker. People talk louder than the gunfire

Movies used to make gunfire more convincing and attention getting (like in real life) It drowned out and carried above the rest of the noise in the movie and often even had some kind of echo effect.

Warner Bros from the 1940s-1990s always seemed to be the best at it.

I.E. in the 1948 movie Treasure of the Sierra Madre when Humphrey Bogart catches Tim Holt falling asleep, takes his gun away, orders him back into brush in the dark and moves out of view....the loud ring of two gunshots that follow after a few moments of silence leaves you no doubt as to what just happened and even startles you a little.

In the 1972 movie Magnum Force when the motorcycle cop pulls the car of mobsters over and is quietly talking to them, we are startled when he pulls his revolver and the loud effects of a .357 Magnum start ringing out as it guns them down in the car and quietly walks away.

And of course we all know Dirty Harry's famous .44 Magnum cannon sound effect.

The "Diplomatic Immunity" BOOM "has just been revoked" from Lethal Weapon too was quite the attention getter as Danny Glover's M-19 rings out after a neck turn

Paramount isn't bad either.

Indiana Jones entering the Nepal Bar with his S&W firing away at German thugs was effective.

But all movies prior to 10 years ago tried, however they could, to make guns sound like what they were: Loud, carrying over everything and attention getting.

Now they all sound like a wiffle bat hitting the sidewalk.

Even when they "remaster" sound effects for older movies, they make them sound very weak and less realistic. Such as in the dirty harry movies. Sound more like a door slamming shut.

Or the Terminator. The gunshots in the "remastered" version of that sound like popcorn popping.
 
While watching prison break I noticed when a secret service guy draws his glock you hear a loud noise like the safety is being disengaged or a decocker or something of the sort.
 
Have you bin using you ear plugs?:D Hearing lose is cumulative.:D A women goes to the Dr. and complains "I have thes strange problem, I have this gas all the time, but it's weird it has no smell, and another thing it has no sound." The Dr. starts fill out a RX. "What's that?" she asked. "It's for a hearing aid, tomorrow we will work on your sinuses.":D
 
I'm seeing a lot of the TV police procedurals where the M.E. is pronouncing that the CoD was a .22.

They bark like a 9 and the hole in the muzzle end of the Glock (always a Glock) looks like a 9, but for whatever reason, the writers have declared the Hollywood Bad Guy firearm of choice is now a .22.

And when the gun is described as a 9mm it is said to be a "large caliber handgun". :eek:

The poor old dead homeowner? A rusty revolver he had no idea how to use!:rolleyes:
 
I'm seeing a lot of the TV police procedurals where the M.E. is pronouncing that the CoD was a .22.

They bark like a 9 and the hole in the muzzle end of the Glock (always a Glock) looks like a 9, but for whatever reason, the writers have declared the Hollywood Bad Guy firearm of choice is now a .22.

And when the gun is described as a 9mm it is said to be a "large caliber handgun". :eek:

The poor old dead homeowner? A rusty revolver he had no idea how to use!:rolleyes:

So that's what has happened to all the .22 ammo, taken off the market because they are to dangerous.:eek:

Or when they are in a combat situation and rack a round into the chamber of their primary weapon they are using to stalk a bad guy just at the moment they see them probably to scare them into submission to eliminate violence in movies, or are holding a firearm on someone with the hammer back on like a 1911 then rack again, geesz I always carry with a round chambered and safety off, but then again I'm not making the big bucks in the movies. Oh and don't forget the firearm firing with the slide locked back, gotta get me one of those 20 round 1911's though that fire with the slide locked back.
 
And I always like the part where the good guy can hide behind a wooden crate and when the bad guy peppers it with an AK, the bullets ricochet off the wood in a shower of sparks!

It used to bug me, now I'm just amused.
 
And I always like the part where the good guy can hide behind a wooden crate and when the bad guy peppers it with an AK, the bullets ricochet off the wood in a shower of sparks!

It used to bug me, now I'm just amused.


Just watched Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man and the bad guys were shooting Steyr AUGs at them and they hid behind an air conditioning duct. And yep , the bullets ricocheted off with sparks.
 
Have you had a hearing test lately? I thought it was quite the opposite. I see 9mm`s makeing cars sommersault, explode like a bomb, choppers knocked out of the air etc. Also like hearing those bullets ping off the railings in dark warehouses etc.
 
It might have something to do with the sound systems that theatres have now. Most of them are pretty deafening with just background music and talking. Throw in some realistic gun shots and most of the audience would probably have busted ear drums.
 
They do the same thing with two stroke and four stroke motorcycles / dirtbikes too they get the sounds mixed up. Since millions of dollars are
spent on movies they don't get the noise and sound right.
 
Have you had a hearing test lately? I thought it was quite the opposite.

That's been my impression too. Saw one flick in which the noise of a gunshot was literally deafening. I'm not a Stallone fan, but thought he was good in "Cop Land". There's a scene in which the corrupt cops, knowing his character is deaf in one ear, touch off a Glock inches from the other one. At that point the sound track goes dead. Pretty convincing.

On the other hand, indoor gunplay scenes in which the characters can whisper to each other are just silly.
 
All the sound in a movie is done by foley artists. If you have trouble hearing stuff on you big flat screen it's because of the encoding and the little flat speakers in the new sets. Spring for a good sound system with all the speakers. It will make a difference.
 
I hate when they get animal noises mixed up too.....like a mallard making Canada goose honks or a pigeon hollering like a crow
 
It's not just the sound that's not realistic. I was watching Snatch the other day and a guy was firing a 50 caliber Desert Eagle with absolutely no recoil.
 
Swampeast's comment rings true when the movie/ad maked have a Bald Eagle sound like a Red-tailed Hawk. Unfortunately, Bald Eagles call is more clucking like a chicken on steroids!
 
My favorites are when bladed weapons - any bladed weapons are pulled/touched/looked at they make the ching sound even if they are pulled out of a leather sheath(!).

The other one is when the slide is locked back on a semi-auto and it makes a clicking noise like the hammer is being worked.
 
Unusual sounds through a microphone....

Microphones that are made for speech or music do not do a good job with unusual noises like whips cracking and fists in the face. The mic itself is limited and the circuits filter some sound outside of it's range (limiting and compression). There has to be a foley guy to enhance these noises or at least special mike setups. Since the 'visceral' effects are hard to capture by microphone, foley artists often combine several sounds to make one.
Films made in the field are often not processed and guns sound strange coming across a TV.

Another possibility: The directors don't WANT the guns to stand out. There could be several reasons for this. It doesn't really make sense NOT to have foley processing these days because today it is a snap with computers.
 
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