Since I saw the threads on other older movies, thought I'd mention these.....

I've not seen Casablanca but I've watched my share of other older movies. For the longest time people advised me to watch the godfather and scarface.

I was told that I had not watched a good movie till I watched those two.

Honest opinion.......

THEY SUCKED!!!

Way better older movie options in my opinion!

It's a mad mad mad mad world comes to mind, if you want to watch a good old movie.

I don't know. Classic movie advice from one who has never seen Casablanca?

Well... m'kay I guess...

I agree. Scarface and the first Godfather movie?

Who's advising the OP? Neither of those even qualify as "Old Movies" in my world.

Classic old movies actually depict the director's and actor's interpretation of the story while leaving something for the imagination of the audience.

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Depends on how old you are if something is classic, and some folks like S&Ws and some like Colts.

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I haven't seen The Godfather but I have seen Casablanca. I've read the book The Godfather though as well asThe Last Don and The Scilian and I'm working on Omerta.

Good books and I'm sure better than the movie

'Scarface' is a classic movie? Seemed rather run of the mill to me.

Scarface
Are youse guys talking about the remake or the original?

Try watching Little Caesar and Public Enemy. And the original (1932) Scarface.

"Not Old Movies"
Well, The Godfather came out in the '70s, IIRC. Don't look now, but that was about 40 years ago!

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Maybe he meant the Howard Hawks/Paul Muni Scarface, from '32.
Scarface (1932) - Overview - TCM.com

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The Al Pacino Scarface is terrible. It did not age well and Al makes the worst Cuban ever. It's nearly impossible for me to sit through it.

Scarface gained notoriety when it was released in the 80s over glorifying the drug trade and the use of violence and language. Once notorious, it gained a cult following amongst wannabe tough guys and gangstas, giving it even more credibility. It was quotable, simple and very violent. Just what the masses wanted. Watch into today and it's just laughably bad, like so many other 80s movies.

Whoever is feeding you this trash as great movies needs to stop.

ETA: Al Pacino is one of the most overrated actors out there. His acting in Heat nearly ruins that movie as well.

Godfather & Godfather II will probably be classics. Godfather is a great movie & usually makes any "best movies" list.

Being a big movie buff, I find some movies are relevant based on how old you are. I have a ton of movies I enjoyed when I was younger, but find no interest in them today. Movies I didn't like when I was younger, I now like or find relevant.

Sometimes it's an age or maturity thing with certain movies.

Or sometimes it's even a season of your life you're in where you might like a movie now you didn't like before.

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Have to agree with that. Sweet Liberty, for example. I thought that was great, first time I saw it, 20 or so years back. So I recently got a copy of it. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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Speaking of Casablanca, "You must remember this, a kiss is still a kiss ..."

"As Time Goes By" was written at the bar at Robin Hood Inn in Clifton, NJ by Herman Hupfeld, who was raised in Montclair, NJ and spent most of his life there.

Then and Now: Robin Hood Inn in Clifton - NorthJersey.com

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Hollywood's Golden Era doesn't stretch into the 1970's.

My idea of an "old movie" is similar to most everything else in America. A classic oldie was made prior to the "free for all" 1960's.

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i thought "red dawn" was a great movie when i was 15-16 . i watched it again recently...
jeremiah johnson however, just as good today as the first time i saw it at 6-7 yrs old. i think it was the first "grownup" movie i had ever watched on tv. still one of my alltime favourites.
made in 1972 i guess it doesnt qualify as old, but it sure is a classic to me.

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imo.........

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scarface was cool when i was a teen, but it wasnt that good.
i agree that the godfather was as boring as anything ive seen, but you really should watch casablanca ,you wont regret it.

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I thought "The Godfather" was the most boring movie I've ever slept through. I went to see it in the theater when had just been released. I was expecting something great from all the reviews and hype. I fell asleep long before halfway. I've never bothered to try to watch it again. Probably never will.

I've never even bothered to try to watch "Scarface."

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Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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There are some modern movies that I enjoy. I liked Jeremiah Johnson.

One of my favorite quotes is from Jeremiah when he asks another character "Where you headed?" The answer, "Same as you are Jeremiah, hell in the end."

I'm watching Tombstone now. I am kinda partial to Dana Delany.

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"Sacred Ground" staring Tim McIntyre

I like one and two, but three was fairly lackluster.
#1, He doesn't look right for the part, and doesn't look
like an older version of who he played in #1 and 2.
He looks more like an older version of Tony Montana..
It's largely the hair I think.. I expect him to look slicked
back like he did in 1 and 2. And the plot and story doesn't
measure up to 1 and 2.

In "Scarface" with Al Pacino in the lead role, everyone had to overplay their roles just to keep it from being a one-man show.

In films like the Godfather, and ...Part II, Pacino was kept in check by other actors such as James Caan, Marlon Brando, and Robert Duvall. I thought Diane Keaton was horrible, and all she came across as, was some whiny WASP.

In "Heat", he was kept in check by Robert DeNiro, especially when they were in the two scenes together. However, he tended to get over the top with the supporting cast.

The godfather is so long and un eventful, easy to lose interest in it IMO. I'd hope Casablanca is the same way.

casablanca has a good story and great dialogue. itll cost you 2 hours of your life to find out if im lyin'.

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If we're talking the Pacino "Scarface" I'll agree it's a huge stinker. However, I will disagree on the "Godfather", also liked "II", hated "III"-I was actually pleased when Sophia Copolla was killed. She's a better director than actor.

And without beating a dead horse I will say "Casablanca" is a film that truly is one of a kind and a great watch. Not only did it give birth to some of the greatest lines still uttered today but the cinematography/lighting hasn't been matched since.

I also have a weakness for some, and I mean some, of the other 70s films- "The French Connection" (one of my best friend's dad was in the Bureau of Narcotics/later DEA & worked that case) and "The Seven Ups" both captured the flavor of NYC of the time.

Film, like many endeavours, is highly personal and so what one may enjoy, others may not. Some like Glocks, others M&Ps lol.

I liked "Godfather" a lot. I loved "Napolean Dynamite".

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2 hours?

Casablanca has cost me at least 50 hours of my life, as I know I've seen it AT LEAST 25 times.

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I liked Heat. But I generally can't stand older movies. If it's black & white I usually have neither the interest or the time.

Scarface is Scarface and stands out for exactly what it is in all its cheap violent glory. You can either appreciate it for what it is or not but it is a cult classic regardless of anyone's particular opinion.

Amen! Scent of a Woman set new levels of the depths of suckiness. Vomit. Even Pacino admits he hasn't made good movie since Dog Day Afternoon. Thank goodness for DeNiro and Kilmer in Heat.

Godfather 1 and 2 are great movies.

"Do the chickens have large talons?"

I had to watch the movie 3 or 4 times. Finally "got it."

Napolean Dynamite is the epitome of the "cult classic."

True grit is another old movie that's damn good, I thought the new version was damn good as well.

I agree that "The Godfather" can be a little boring but one has to remember, the triology is telling a very long story that spans decades and generations. I would never refer to Pacino as "overrated" however. He's one of the best to ever come down the pipe.

Yep;
that is one of my favorites also...................

"Ever skin Grizz pilgrim" ?

How in the name of jumpin' Jehoshaphat can you think that "Casablanca" is not a great movie?

Even if it were poorly made (it wasn't) it would be significant as an allegory of its time. When it was made, which was before the USA had committed to the war, many people here were ambivalent to the war in Europe. THAT is what the film is about. Rick speaks to that ambivalence. He's an American and wishes to remain neutral but can't. Sort of like how this country was drawn into the war. Get it? If you don't I give up.

As it stands it's a beautifully made movie and stands on its own as a film even without the political baggage.

"Skin that one, pilgrim. I'll go git ya another!"

A few of many Classics, On The Waterfront, The Wild One, Julius Caesar.

Who could play Don Vito Corleone better than Marlon Brando?

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When Casablanca was filmed we were deep into WW2. The studio never thought the movie would be so popular. The setting was in No. Africa which we had just invaded. Bogart was a screen idol & Bacall was just coming along. They made a great team. The music "As time goes by" became a hit also.I remember it because my folks took me to the movies one Saturday matinee about 1942 or '43.

Nothing will surpass Big Man Japan

Ingrid Bergman was the one he paired up with in Casablanca.
They had Key Largo on TCM last night.. Bacall was in that one from
1948.

If you don't appreciate the dramatic qualities of black&white cinema, you just don't get it. Casablanca and countless other classics must be seen in the original b&w format. Colorized movies are an abomination, that should be outlawed. Another thing about Casablanca is that it was shot in sequence. Very rare.
And, I was never impressed with The Godfather, and I knew Scarface was trash in the first 10 minutes. I'm not much of a mafia movie fan, except "The Valachi Papers".

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I am surprised that The Godfather has that many detractors.
I saw it in the theater in 1972. I was mesmerized from the first scene at the wedding. I never thought that the movie was made to be so much mob centric as family centric. Almost soap operish. But very good soap opera! My all time favorite movie.

Speaking of Diane Keaton, I was devastated when her stupid Annie Hall movie beat out Star Wars for best movie. The movie that revived Hollywood.

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You just have ****** outdated taste in movies then. Color! Psha! What an abomination the invention of color photography. Sound too! Perhaps you could tell us about the good old days of silent films? Or why don't we just ditch the videography all together. RADIO was a true dramatic medium. Hell, we could go hard core and throw all the way back to when stories were told by spitting chewed charcoal onto cave walls, in black and white, because colored minerals hadn't been invented yet.

I hope that was at least partially in jest. Otherwise a bit harsh and overstated. Oreo, black and white?

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I was being a smartass/It was in jest. Mostly.

B&W is a dramatic medium, whether it's photography or movies. That's not saying color isn't welcome or needed. I couldn't imagine big blockbuster movies being in B&W, like Dr. Zhivago, Sound of Music, or How the West was Won. Study a little bit of Film Noir movies, or Ansel Adams photography. Did Adams ever take a color pic? I complained about "colorized" movies, that is not the same as a color movie.

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If they were made with B/W, that's the way I like to see them.
Not a huge fan of coloring old B/W movies.
I have a few of the old Bogart movies in 1080i HD..
Casablanca, The Maltese Falcon, and Key Largo I have in HD.
That's the way you want to watch them. Makes the old SD
versions look pretty grainy..

Some people will never GET the Godfather, it's an ethnic thing.

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Robert DeNiro?

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