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Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Inductees
We seem to be on a roll this week going back in time, nice isn't it?
I have seen many enter that Hall, but this inductee entered with class, as she had in her entire life.
The members here must remember at least one they would enjoy sharing.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d36vCrKrxp8
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I'm a big fan of The Supremes and perhaps Darlene Love was way over shadowed by Diana Ross. I have zero respect for Jann Wenner and his rock and roll hall of fame, however. If they don't think Johnny Rivers is good enough, screwem and the liberal pinko horse they rode in on. But it's only rock and roll.
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The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has kinda lost me in recent years. They've inducted Miles Davis, RUN-DMC, Jimmy Cliff, Public Enemy, the Beastie Boys. I listen to some of these acts, but they have ZERO to do with Rock and Roll.
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The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has kinda lost me in recent years. They've inducted Miles Davis, RUN-DMC, Jimmy Cliff, Public Enemy, the Beastie Boys. I listen to some of these acts, but they have ZERO to do with Rock and Roll.
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Totally agree, but once in awhile we sneak a good artist or group in that should be there.
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Yup, without Johnny Rivers or The Moody Blues it isn't a Hall of Fame. How many records did they sell?
Can someone tell me why The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is in Cleveland? It should be in Memphis TN, where it all started. Rock and Roll was born at 706 Union Ave. Memphis, Tennessee.
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I saw an infomercial the other day of DVDs for the RRHOF ceremonies, looked pretty cool to me. I'm sure all of us don't like some of the people in there, but that's not a reason turn your back on it. Celebrate the ones you do like. I bet Johnny and the Moody Blues make it some day. I've still got the Rockin Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu.
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I saw an infomercial the other day of DVDs for the RRHOF ceremonies, looked pretty cool to me. I'm sure all of us don't like some of the people in there, but that's not a reason turn your back on it. Celebrate the ones you do like. I bet Johnny and the Moody Blues make it some day. I've still got the Rockin Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu.
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Doesn't everyone eventually get in?
I'm glad someone said it was Darlene Love, I was horrified to think it was Courtney Love.
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I saw an infomercial the other day of DVDs for the RRHOF ceremonies, looked pretty cool to me. I'm sure all of us don't like some of the people in there, but that's not a reason turn your back on it. Celebrate the ones you do like. I bet Johnny and the Moody Blues make it some day. I've still got the Rockin Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu.
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This aint about rock n roll, it's about Jan Wenner, the rrhf founder. This guy plays a big part in making California what it is today with the garbage culture Rolling Stone advocates and the influence his commie rag has over young skulls full of mush. He had Miami Vice's Sonny Crockett's shoulder holster rig airbrushed out of the cover photo because he hate's handguns so much. Wenner left his longtime wife for a fashion designer named Matt. Google is full of anecdotes depicting his tyrannical behavior concerning rrhf candidates. Nah, I'm not going to support anything that benefits JWenner or his ilk. Got no use for him at all.
As far as Johnny Rivers goes, for those unfamiliar with his history, he's a NYC boy whose family moved to Louisiana when he was a boy. He had a knack for guitar, his dad encouraged it and he hit the road young to make his fortune. Changed his name from John Henry Ramistella to Johnny Rivers and the rest was history.
Big Break came when he was house band at the Whiskey A GoGo in mid 60's. Several great live albums released from that extended run. As of a couple years ago JR was still playing the county fair circuit. This is my favorite video and it epitomizes early American Rock N Roll imho. Note the turned up sportcoat collar, the pink shirt, skinny necktie and his rebel soul patch.
I put the time at about 1965 judging by the hippie dippy Sonny and Cher look many in the crowd has.
JOHNNY RIVERS - Memphis - YouTube
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Grand Funk
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Olivia Newton John??? Are you kidding me? 
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I agree. I guess I don't know what RnR is anymore. Where is Boy George?
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Joe Cocker ain't in?
Olivia ain't so bad. Really good voice. Ya just have to pick and choose among her work.
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Olivia ain't so bad. Really good voice. Ya just have to pick and choose among her work.
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What? Joe Cocker ain't in? There needs to be a riot!
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They trickle in.....
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This aint about rock n roll, it's about Jan Wenner, the rrhf founder. This guy plays a big part in making California what it is today with the garbage culture Rolling Stone advocates and the influence his commie rag has over young skulls full of mush. He had Miami Vice's Sonny Crockett's shoulder holster rig airbrushed out of the cover photo because he hate's handguns so much. Wenner left his longtime wife for a fashion designer named Matt. Google is full of anecdotes depicting his tyrannical behavior concerning rrhf candidates. Nah, I'm not going to support anything that benefits JWenner or his ilk. Got no use for him at all.
As far as Johnny Rivers goes, for those unfamiliar with his history, he's a NYC boy whose family moved to Louisiana when he was a boy. He had a knack for guitar, his dad encouraged it and he hit the road young to make his fortune. Changed his name from John Henry Ramistella to Johnny Rivers and the rest was history.
Big Break came when he was house band at the Whiskey A GoGo in mid 60's. Several great live albums released from that extended run. As of a couple years ago JR was still playing the county fair circuit. This is my favorite video and it epitomizes early American Rock N Roll imho. Note the turned up sportcoat collar, the pink shirt, skinny necktie and his rebel soul patch.
I put the time at about 1965 judging by the hippie dippy Sonny and Cher look many in the crowd has.
JOHNNY RIVERS - Memphis - YouTube
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Doobie Brothers
Grand Funk
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Moody Blues
Bon Jovi
Monkees
Ringo Starr (solo) Charted songs Starr/10 Harrison/12 Lennon/12
Joe Cocker
Turtles
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
Ritchie Havens
Carly Simon
Olivia Newton John
Linda Ronstadt
Johnny Rivers
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As soon as I saw that Obama lovin, liberal progressive anti gun thing that was inducting Ms. Love, I had to turn it off. Besides, that hall of fame is a joke to me!
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Has anyone been there and actually seen the displays? It's amazing. So much there from Hendrix to Hooker to obscure names I never heard of. Great to be able to read the stories and see so many pieces of history. Pieces of Pink Floyd's The Wall set, the Les Paulverizor effects board, or Janice Joplins Porsche convertible, or Astro van Rage against the Machine started off in. They could never please everyone so why would you expect everyone you like to be in there? Enjoy what's there and think of the glass half full and not half empty....
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Each of the members of CSNY has been inducted twice.
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Regarding CSN & sometimes Y, except for N in the Hollies, they mostly suck bad!
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Darlene Love made phil spector the record mogul he was. this classy recording artist should have been in the R&R HOF a long time ago
my favorite of hers is..................
The Crystals (Blossoms) - He's A Rebel (original recording) - YouTube
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remember...only one artist is in the 1)rock and roll hall of fame 2)country music hall of fame and 3) gospel hall of fame
yes from 706 union av,memphis tn.
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Jethro Tull ain't in but RUN DMC is.
King Crimson ain't but Public Enemy is
I guess Kanye will be in before Joe Cocker.
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We seem to be on a roll this week going back in time, nice isn't it?
I have seen many enter that Hall, but this inductee entered with class, as she had in her entire life.
The members here must remember at least one they would enjoy sharing.
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Darlene Love, wow, that's one classy lady! What a voice. Thanks for the link!
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Am surprised to hear that Ringo and Linda Ronstadt aren't in.
Johnny Rivers? I liked him just fine, never thought he was a serious factor.
Now I feel compelled to speak up for Tony Joe White.
Where would we be without Polk Sally Annie?
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many of the early DOO WOP groups have not been considered for the HOF.....their smooth harmonizing and musical influence was/is outstanding.....
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I can't take the Hall of Fame seriously when, as others have said, you have huge bands and solo artists that made (real) Rock and Roll history that are ignored while recent wannabes with a hit or two make it.
classic rock rift (and TV show theme) by Johnny Rivers:
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Saw Johnny Rivers a few years ago. 2 1/2 hour show. You'll never know how many hits he had till you see him live. Of course his last song was Secret Agent Man. The crowd went wild when the opening guitar riff was being played.
Not in the Rock and Roll HOF. bah!
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Here's a nice Johnny River's article. I'm not obsessed or anything but I remember JR working the local concert circuit where he played for 500-2000 audience and he worked his butt off having fun. His love of the game was obvious back in the 60s and he's still rocking 5 decades later. I put Johnny Rivers in the same rarefied air that Delbert McClinton breathes.
Another thing, JR was savvy enough to keep control of his music catalog. He didn't sell for a couple cents on the dollar like so many did. And I heartily agree that the Memphis Sun Recordings from 1991 is well worth having. I keep it in heavy rotation.
ELVIS AND JOHNNY RIVERS | ElvisBlog
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I love doing a little digging to find out what kind of connection Elvis had with other rock & rollers. In the case of Johnny Rivers, it goes all the way back to early 1955, before Elvis was a big star, and before Johnny Rivers was Johnny Rivers. At that time, he was Brooklyn-born John Ramistella, a twelve-year-old growing up in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
He and a buddy went to the local high school to see a country concert starring Minnie Pearl and Little Jimmy Dickens. Opening the show was some unknown kid named Elvis Presley. Minnie Pearl introduced him as “The Hillbilly Cat,” and he came out wearing a pink suit and white buck shoes. Elvis sang only two songs, “That’s All Right” and “Blue Moon of Kentucky.” Rivers recalls, “All that sexual energy up there on stage, people didn’t know what to make of it.”
Young Johnny did. He said to his buddy, “Wow. This guy’s really cool.” Within a year, Johnny was playing guitar in local groups, and by age fourteen, he was fronting the band “Johnny and the Spades.”
Young Johnny got a second look at Elvis after that high school concert. He went around behind the auditorium and saw Elvis, Scotty Moore, and Bill Black loading their gear in a trailer pulled by a Cadillac Coupe de Ville. Actually, Scotty and Bill were doing the loading. Elvis was talking to some of the country acts. Johnny remembers this about Elvis: “He was bouncing around, he couldn’t stand still. I’m thinking this is the coolest guy I ever seen.”
In 1957, Johnny recorded his first record, ‘Hey Little Girl,” and a local newspaper article about him led to his next Elvis connection – performing at the Louisiana Hayride in Shreveport. It was there in 1958 that he met James Burton, who would later play guitar with Elvis, but back then was the guitarist for Ricky Nelson. Burton was responsible for taking a demo Johnny had written and delivering it to Nelson, who liked the song and recorded it for his huge album “Rick at 21.”
Later in 1958, Johnny traveled to New York to seek work in recording studios. It was there he met legendary disc jockey Allen Freed, who convinced him to change his name to Johnny Rivers.
After he graduated from high school, Rivers moved to Nashville, where he teamed up with another young hopeful singer, Roger Miller. They wrote songs together and made a little money singing demonstration tracks for Elvis and Johnny Cash. The next few years saw Rivers move to New York City and then to Los Angeles. In 1963 Rivers and his group began an extended stay as the house band at a local nightclub. This led to a lucrative offer to open the new discotheque Whiskey A-Go-Go on the Sunset Strip. Soon, his first album Johnny Rivers at the Whiskey A-Go-Go was released, and it quickly sold a million copies. Johnny Rivers’ career was on a roll.
With his newfound wealth, Johnny Rivers moved into a mansion in exclusive Trousdale Estates, and regularly drove his maroon Jaguar over to Elvis’ place in Bel Air for weekend football games, with other stars like Pat Boone and Jan and Dean.
Johnny Rivers and Elvis had one other interesting connection – the song “Memphis” written by Chuck Berry. Elvis recorded it during a two-day session in Nashville in May 1963 that produced fourteen songs. Time constraints limited “Memphis” to just two takes, and Elvis was not happy with either one. So, on January 12, 1964, Elvis went back in the studio to re-record “Memphis” and one other song. He wanted a more exciting, modern sound, because he planned to release “Memphis” as his next single. Elvis was dedicated and focused. He was in good voice, and he loaded up the studio with three guitar players and two drummers.
Elvis left the studio very pleased with the results, but “Memphis” was never released as a single – and Johnny Rivers was the reason. He and Elvis had jammed together on the song back in Bel Air. Rivers liked it so much he incorporated it into his repertoire at the Whiskey. In May 1964 a live version of the song hit the market and quickly went to #2 on the charts. That killed any chance of “Memphis” ever being an Elvis single.
There is one last Elvis/Johnny Rivers connection. I would strongly recommend the 1991 Rivers CD The Memphis Sun Recordings. Rivers recorded it at Sun Studios, with James Burton and Carl Perkins as special guests. It contains cover versions of four Elvis songs and three Perkins hits, plus others by Johnny Cash, Jerry Lee Lewis and Charlie Rich. It’s a terrific CD, and I play it a lot, including twice while writing this article.
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