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Russian handgun training.
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The live human obstacles are those who failed the class?
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Nope......don't think I would be interested in doing that.
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I gotta hand it to the Russians on this one.
I found this video to be rather motivating.
While many will see this as dangerous (it is), this actually could be considered excellent training.
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This is in keeping with over a century of Russian military doctrine & weapon design. Namely that the soldiers are expendable.
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A whole new dimension to the "Meanwhile, in Russia..." videos.
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If you fail to pass this course you really fail right?
This would keep you thinking.
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It looks like one of those things that works til it doesn't.
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Nope, not for me either. I can only take so much of Larry V. also.... yeah baby! That's what I'm talkin about!!
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This is in keeping with over a century of Russian military doctrine & weapon design. Namely that the soldiers are expendable.
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Actually these guys are not. Not your typical infantry man. Tons of money poured in to train them and those drills are for the seasoned professional operators. Training only goes so far. At some point it has to be as real as possible. Looks like a good way to get your target in a busy Chechen bazaar full of noise, gun shots and people, some of whom are armed but not hostile.
There's another training the VDV (like Rangers) does that builds on teammate trust. Two men face each other and a fighting knife is placed in the middle. The knife is held in the air by the 2 men who use their stomach to hold it. The pointy end is against one man's stomach and the grip against the other. They must run sideways down a field holding that knife just like that, not dropping it nor stabbing. Once at the other end the knife gets flipped and the run back
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that doesn't look anything like the CCW class I took last weekend....you better know how good the other guy is before you do this training for sure...Think I will pass
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I like how the moke shoots one into the ground (at 3:46).
That's some safe gun-handling, right there.
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I like how the moke shoots one into the ground (at 3:46).
That's some safe gun-handling, right there.
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You can call him out on that. I'm gonna go hide in a bunker or something.
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I like how the moke shoots one into the ground (at 3:46).
That's some safe gun-handling, right there.
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Look closely. Those are warning shots. He does it every time he yells get back. I saw 2 at least and always as he yells get back
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Well okay. That's even more stupid.
Warning shots use up rounds you might need later.
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In Soviet Russia... target shoots you.
That shot to the ground was repeated in both of the latter drills - same angle, same timing. I'm wagering it's purposeful, not an accident.
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Looks like Glocks they're shooting. No, I wouldn't like to go through that training either.
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Saw this on Texas Gun Talk a couple days ago. Leave it to the Ruskies to do crazy **** like that
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No more efficient way to train getting shot at..... I think it looks fun, and wish my sorry skills were up to shooting with them!!!
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hmmmmmm
Oh, Jeeeeeeez! That's realistic.
I like the guy shooting right by the guy's ear.
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Sorry, but there's no way I'm standing there letting a guy shoot me in my chest.
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Sorry, but there's no way I'm standing there letting a guy shoot me in my chest.
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And he didn't even flinch.
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I couldn't see the guns that well. Glocks?
I know there are some new Russian pistols that take the 9X19mm round. Has anyone here seen or handled them?
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There is a Russian glock like pistol that recently came out.
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Not for me, thanks anyway, and nosiree Bob.
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Well okay. That's even more stupid.
Warning shots use up rounds you might need later.
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I'm pretty sure they know what they're doing. Like he said, they are seasoned special forces soldiers not new recruits.some of those guys look like they have both Chechen wars under their belt. Besides it takes a lot of practice to get to that level
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Every time I walk into a big-box gun store, I meet guys who are former "Seasoned Special Forces". Most of them look like Larry the Cable Guy.
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I'm not worried....
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I'm not that worried about the chest with a vest. I'm more worried about above or below the vest.
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Russians and other eastern Euro sorts are more openly "macho" than in most Western nations. There is a reason why Putin struts around bare-chested in many publicity photos. That looks absurd here. Russians probably admire it.
I wouldn't be surprised if these guys smoke cigarettes to look manly. Their training reflects that.
Firing warning shots into the ground can easliy cause injuries or deaths from ricochets. Where life is cheap. they care less about that.
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Safe? Da, da, iz fairly safe no vun shakey today. Ve drink only sissy American wodka last night!
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I'm thinkin' their "meatwagon" driver has pretty good job security!
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I'm guessing "OSHA" does not translate well into Russian.
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