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Sam Colt died of what?
I read his wiki page out of curiosity, which says he died of... gout?
Samuel Colt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Now I've had gout attacks & they hurt like blazes, but I never heard of anyone dying from it. I could see complications like kidney failure, maybe. No doubt Sam's love of the high life meant high-risk for gout & heart disease.
Winfield Scott was said to have had such severe gout late in life (as Army Chief of Staff) as to need near constant icing of his feet. Old Chapultepec apparently didn't shy away from the Washington dinners & weighed in over 300 lbs.
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One of my kind said the gout hurt so bad he couldn't have the fan on in the room, less the air blow on his toe and make it hurt so bad.
I hope I never get it!
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I looked it up and Gout itself won’t kill l you but it apparently presents in conjunction with other diseases (Diabetes, High blood pressure, High cholesterol and morbid obesity) that will kill you
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I always read that he died from overwork which caused him to collapse and die. I think this was in 1862.
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I always read that he died from overwork which caused him to collapse and die. I think this was in 1862.
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That sounds like the description of a massive heart attack
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I take Black cherry concentrate capsules or juice when my gout comes on. In a day or two the gout is gone. It neutralizes the acid that causes gout. I don't know why, but it has worked for me.
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He died from a broken main spring of course........
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That sounds better than gout.
I've heard that about Colts.
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Colt was a non stop workaholic,,by the descriptions written of him in that time. A 'Type A' perhaps,,always on the move, sleep was a waste of time. Always more to do than time allowed.Building his business was everything.
From a description of his final 4 or 5 days written by his wife, it sounds like Sam'l was suffering from perhaps what we'd call dementia today.
Not knowing and they didn't say what if any 'treatments' were given for ailments, real or imagined at the time, you can only guess at what substances may have been ingested long and short term.
Medicines then thought to be a miracle cure are now known to be at best nothing at all or at their worst a death sentence in themselves.
I did read that he had rheumatic fever as a kid.
No doctor here,not trying to play one, but I think r/fever can cause several different heart problems later down the line in life (among other ailments).
That couldn't have been good for someone unwilling to slow their pace down as they got older.
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Hey if the internet says he died of gout then he died of gout! Remember, if it's on the net it has to be true!
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Hey if the internet says he died of gout then he died of gout! Remember, if it's on the net it has to be true!
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Thank God for allopurinol, is the only good thing I can say about gout.
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I heard old Sam died from the common colt ...
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I heard old Sam died from the common colt ...
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Gout is merely what the family said to cover the real truth. Sam Colt died in 1862 with the invention of the Model 2 Army by Smith and Wesson.
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was this something Brian Williams reported?
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We all know his cylinder turned backwards. Could that perhaps be the cause?
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The truth is, an early member of the Uberti family came to the U.S. and poisoned Sam Colt because he was about to sue the Uberti family over patent infringements. But that Uberti guy was killed in the sabotage fire of the Colt plant. And because he was the only one with knowledge of the Uberti gun designs, they never came to fruition. Only much later in the 1970s did a member of the Uberti family find the old notes of his dead ancestor and then built copies of Colt designs. The patents had since expired and now it was legal and the rest is history.
Brian Williams told me all this and I believe him.
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Actually it was a bad case of Smith and Wessonitis and he lost the will to live. Sorry but I couldn't help it, didn't really mean to disrespect Sam!
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...Winfield Scott was said to have had such severe gout late in life (as Army Chief of Staff) as to need near constant icing of his feet...
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Applying ice is probably about the worst thing you can do for a gout attack.
A few doses of indomethacin does the job for me in about 12 hours.
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Nah. In 1862 he was under artillery fire with Hood's Brigade at Atietam Creek:-)
If he was showing dementia in his final days then collapsed suddenly, my money would be on a stroke, which goes with the whole gout/hypertension suite of conditions.
I'm somewhat fortunate in that i first experienced gout in my early 20s no doubt due to my Southern fried rearing, plus my Dr. said I'm a "under-secreter" of uric acid). I got on the health wagon and had my last severe attack at age 30. They say it takes about a decade for uric acid to build to the point of causing an attack, which makes sense cause it took me almost a decade to get past them.
Yes it is unbelievably painful. I had a couple of nights where I couldn't stand the weight of a sheet on my foot. Even then it throbs constantly.
Now, at 55, when I have joint problems or other pain, I make sure not to tell the doctor I have a history of gout, otherwise they'll just say "oh, its probably gout then"
Or I guess you could say Sam let his chambers get fouled to the point that the cylinder seized up.
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I've always heard Sam Colt died from gonorrhea.
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Actually, that was Jeb Stuart that died from gonorrhea. It was much more common back in the days before safe sex.
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Actually, that was Jeb Stuart that died from gonorrhea. It was much more common back in the days before safe sex.
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General Stuart was shot by a damn yankee. Died of his wound in Richmond, VA.
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I take Black cherry concentrate capsules or juice when my gout comes on. In a day or two the gout is gone. It neutralizes the acid that causes gout. I don't know why, but it has worked for me.
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I had my first gout attack last spring - foot swelled up so that I could not get a shoe on - painful - lasted about 10 days. Doc put me on Allopurinol - after about 6 months discovered that I was allergic to it. I found that the cherry tablets seemed to work and I continue to take them - also added 1/4 tsp of baking soda in 8 oz of water before bed every night.
So far, so good - my dad had severe gout and from what I'ver read, heredity is about 80% of the cause with certain foods (high purine) adding to the triggering of it - I've never been able to make a connection with food and gout.
As soon as I feel a twinge in my big toe, I double up on the cherry extract and the ibuprofen tabs.
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I looked it up and Gout itself won’t kill l you but it apparently presents in conjunction with other diseases (Diabetes, High blood pressure, High cholesterol and morbid obesity) that will kill you
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So - plus old age I'm over due
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Gout is the prominent symptom.....
The pain of gout overshadows the fact that you're suffering from another disease that's not so easily seen.
I'm surprised to learn that gout is a form of arthritis.
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it was probably some kind of demon. you know them hunters never live full life...
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I had several attacks before I wised up and now it is under control.
Allopurinol makes the uric acid exit thru your kidneys.
Cholchicine is a rugged treatment for acute flare-ups.
There is a new, less horrible variant Cholcrys that doesn't tear you up like the other stuff.
You really don't want gout.
It is a gift from Satan, and is very bad.
The Supreme Being has allowed it as an educational tool.
It is intended to show us that we will not be burdened with more than we can bear.
But it will be close.
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I had several attacks before I wised up and now it is under control.
Allopurinol makes the uric acid exit thru your kidneys.
Cholchicine is a rugged treatment for acute flare-ups.
There is a new, less horrible variant Cholcrys that doesn't tear you up like the other stuff.
You really don't want gout.
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I have used / still use all of the above. These days I've added Uloric, at $250 a month, on the GP's suggestion. BIG hit on the ammo budget.
My biggest shooting problem these days is prostate cancer bone tumors that have combined with gout (in my hands, yes, unheard of, but biopsied and confirmed) to present big issues when handling double stack handguns and pistol grip shotguns. I've sold off some wonderful firearms at a nasty loss here lately because I can't hold them without pain. Much less fire a round.
What doesn't kill you won't make you stronger, it will come back and try again tomorrow.
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Actually, that was Jeb Stuart that died from gonorrhea. It was much more common back in the days before safe sex.
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I thought Stuart was killed in battle.
A lot of men, including a bunch from the Lewis & Clark Expedition, who slept with Indian women all along the way, contracted gonna rhea, but more likely died from the treatment before disease got them. The one Lewis administered was mercury.
In fact it was said they were able to track the expedition on it's Bicentennial by locating spits with high concentrations of mercury, indicating latrine sites.
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