Tom_R
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Can I use Break Free CLP as a penetrant for a water shut off valve for my toilet, or should I use WD-40?
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Water Shut off valve - need a penetrant
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Wd 40 is cheaper
Marshwheeling
Member
If whatever you try first doesn't work, try PB Blaster.
gunnails
Member
I recommend replacing the valve.
dave holl
Absent Comrade
Both of the previously mentioned PB blaster and WD40 are my choices too because they're readily available.
Two other choices that you may have in your gun cleaning supplies are Kroil, and a product that you can make, called Ed's Red. Do a Google search for Ed's Red.
Two other choices that you may have in your gun cleaning supplies are Kroil, and a product that you can make, called Ed's Red. Do a Google search for Ed's Red.
To paraphrase the DUKE some one should pilgram --someone should --But i won't
Yes I will
WD -40 is not a penetrating solvent ...
it is a Water Displacement fluid
Get Kroil --PB blaster ,or make ed's red
let it soak in -once in a while tap with a hammer, backing up the opposite side with another hammer
GOOD LUCK
Yes I will
WD -40 is not a penetrating solvent ...
it is a Water Displacement fluid
Get Kroil --PB blaster ,or make ed's red
let it soak in -once in a while tap with a hammer, backing up the opposite side with another hammer
GOOD LUCK
litenlarry
Member
Liquid wrench, has loosened a few frozen nuts and bolt's for me..Never tried it on your situation...
I like Kroil first and PB Blaster second. If I did not replace it with a well made unit, that is what I would likely try. WD-40 is not really a good lubricant. WD = Water Displacement..... I know people love the stuff, I use it too, but there are some uses that are much more suited to the product than others.
45Wheelgun
SWCA Member
Ed's Red is amazing. All I use for a gun cleaner and I have a jar in the garage to use as a penetrant and parts cleaner.
cougar14
US Veteran
Is this valve an angle stop? If so, I recommend you replace it with the new style that's only 1/4th a turn from full open to full off. You can cycle this once awhile and have no more trouble.
Comrad
Member
That's a ball valve and it's available in straight as well as angle and the compression one works great, no need to get involved soldering in a tight space like behind a toilet.
Careful Googling Ed's Red, you might end up putting hot sauce on your valve.
Careful Googling Ed's Red, you might end up putting hot sauce on your valve.
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venomballistics
Member
and if its a good sauce, the valve will be corroded away, making replacement easier.
seriously .... cough up the $10 - $15 for a new valve.
Water damage is several orders of magnitude more costly.
I thought those solvents were for rust.
Your problem is probably from calcium deposits, so just replace the valve. You may be able to re-use it if you soak it in CLR for a few hours, but I can't hold it that long.
Your problem is probably from calcium deposits, so just replace the valve. You may be able to re-use it if you soak it in CLR for a few hours, but I can't hold it that long.
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Tom_R
Member
Allow me to elaborate, I need to turn off the water shut off valve that supplies the Toilet.
We will replace it, but I need to rotate it to turn it off. I can't rotate it because it is frozen, and I don;t want to force it.
The Valve to the Toilet is leaking onto the water supply valve, and I think that is what has frozen it.
So we will probably need to replace both.
My Plumber told me to spray it with WD-40 as he said it will take the moisture away and it will loosen up the crud.
I will try that, along with a (Very) light tap from the hammer AFTER the WD-40 has been on there for a while.
I will also add that many folks have mentioned Ed's Red, and I will look into what that is all about too
We will replace it, but I need to rotate it to turn it off. I can't rotate it because it is frozen, and I don;t want to force it.
The Valve to the Toilet is leaking onto the water supply valve, and I think that is what has frozen it.
So we will probably need to replace both.
My Plumber told me to spray it with WD-40 as he said it will take the moisture away and it will loosen up the crud.
I will try that, along with a (Very) light tap from the hammer AFTER the WD-40 has been on there for a while.
I will also add that many folks have mentioned Ed's Red, and I will look into what that is all about too
The easiest solution (assuming there's enough pipe to work with) is to cut off the old valve with a tubing cutter and go with all new parts from there.Saves a ton of time and aggravation [emoji6]
Comrad
Member
How about shutting off the main?
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Tom_R
Member
Might have to do that.
da gimp
Member
Buy the best water shut off valve. the Shark bite & replace it... it easily connects to copper, CPVC, PVC & will have a fitting for your supply line to the toilet already there. You might have to replace the little chrome line & upgrade to CPVC or copper to join the shark bite too, but there is one set up already to hook up to the existing water supply line. The Chinese made cruddy water valves that are commonly sold at hardware stores & lumber yards wear out/go bad in 2 or 3 years...... so far none of the shark bites we've put in need to be replaced in any rental home we have. Cost is about #.00 per fitting over the import Chinese crud. big deal. Most better hardware stores & lumberyards now carry the shark bites here.
