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Do you know what happened to the signers of the Declaration of Independence?
Friend and fellow forum member smitholdtimer sent this to me in an e-mail yesterday,but for some reason,when I attempted to copy it here,the content came up blank. I googled it and found this. Just goes to show the measure of a man's deeds as opposed to his words. How many of us are true patriots when compared to these 56 men?
THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE
THE SIGNERS
Gary Hildrith
Have you ever wondered what happened to the fifty-six men who signed the Declaration of Independence? This is the price they paid:
Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons in the revolutionary army, another had two sons captured. Nine of the fifty-six fought and died from wounds or hardships resulting from the Revolutionary War.
These men signed, and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor!
What kind of men were they? Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants. Nine were farmers and large plantation owners. All were men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty could be death if they were captured.
Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vandals or soldiers or both, looted the properties of Ellery, Clymer, Hall, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
Perhaps one of the most inspiring examples of "undaunted resolution" was at the Battle of Yorktown. Thomas Nelson, Jr. was returning from Philadelphia to become Governor of Virginia and joined General Washington just outside of Yorktown. He then noted that British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headqurt, but that the patriot's were directing their artillery fire all over the town except for the vicinity of his own beautiful home. Nelson asked why they were not firing in that direction, and the soldiers replied, "Out of respect to you, Sir." Nelson quietly urged General Washington to open fire, and stepping forward to the nearest cannon, aimed at his own house and fired. The other guns joined in, and the Nelson home was destroyed. Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis's Long Island home was looted and gutted, his home and properties destroyed. His wife was thrown into a damp dark prison cell without a bed. Health ruined, Mrs. Lewis soon died from the effects of the confinement. The Lewis's son would later die in British captivity, also.
"Honest John" Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she lay dying, when British and Hessian troops invaded New Jersey just months after he signed the Declaration. Their thirteen children fled for their lives. His fields and his grist mill were laid to waste. All winter, and for more than a year, Hart lived in forests and caves, finally returning home to find his wife dead, his chidrvanished and his farm destroyed. Rebuilding proved too be too great a task. A few weeks later, by the spring of 1779, John Hart was dead from exhaustion and a broken heart.
Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.
New Jersey's Richard Stockton, after rescuing his wife and children from advancing British troops, was betrayed by a loyalist, imprisoned, beaten and nearly starved. He returned an invalid to find his home gutted, and his library and papers burned. He, too, never recovered, dying in 1781 a broken man.
William Ellery of Rhode Island, who marveled that he had seen only "undaunted resolution" in the faces of his co-signers, also had his home burned.
Only days after Lewis Morris of New York signed the Declaration, British troops ravaged his 2,000-acre estate, butchered his cattle and drove his family off the land. Three of Morris' sons fought the British.
When the British seized the New York houses of the wealthy Philip Livingston, he sold off everything else, and gave the money to the Revolution. He died in 1778.
Arthur Middleton, Edward Rutledge and Thomas Heyward Jr. went home to South Carolin tight. In the British invasion of the South, Heyward was wounded and all three were captured. As he rotted on a prison ship in St. Augustine, Heyward's plantation was raided, buildings burned, and his wife, who witnessed it all, died. Other Southern signers suffered the same general fate.
Among the first to sign had been John Hancock, who wrote in big, bold script so George III "could read my name without spectacles and could now double his reward for 500 pounds for my head." If the cause of the revolution commands it, roared Hancock, "Burn Boston and make John Hancock a beggar!"
Here were men who believed in a cause far beyond themselves.
Such were the stories and sacrifices of the America revolution. These were not wild eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this Declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
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Frankly, it's an aspect of the Revolution I had never thought of.
The British response was not atypical for the times, even to be expected. I feel sorry for those men and their families.
I remember being taught that only about a third of the people were pro-revolution; a third remained neutral and the rest didn't particularly care. At Valley Forge when troops were sick and starving, I understand the the area farmers were actually selling to the British. Again, such were the times.
Not to be frivolous, but is it time the crown be asked for reparation to any living relatives of those so treated?
Good Queen Elizabeth will certainly respond favorably.
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I've read summaries like that many times over the years. It's good to bear in mind on the 4th - and every day of the rest of the year.
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Thomas Paine
Thomas Paine didn't charge any royalties for his pamphlets, because there was a war on. Later when he asked for some recompense, the attitude was that 'Why should he be paid?" None of us were paid for the war effort". He was disliked everywhere he went by some factions for his writing and when he traveled and returned from overseas, they wouldn't recognize him as an American citizen. He continued to write and managed to offend just about everybody. Though he had been generous to some, he had to be supported at the end of his life. They even had trouble finding a place to bury him. Six people were at his funeral. Pitiful story.
He could get his ideas across clearly in writing and even had other contributions as an inventor/designer.
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Though he wasnt a signatary--Major Benjamin Talmadge AKA--John Bolton,wished to be compensated for his home being burned to the ground by the British-the Congress refused.
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I´ll like yo offer the usual 2 cents on this.In spite of being brazilian born, today I feel I´m more american than a brazilian.That´s because the history of the US in pursuit of individual liberty.As for the declaration of Independence there is a áudio about it avaiable on the Mises Intitute website by Robert Lefevre that is very touchy.Is difficult to hear it without feeling a lump in your throath.
In one of the parts of it he tells about John Hancock signing in very large characters his name and telling to others present - I´m signing this large so king George will not need glasses to see it.
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I was reading just yesterday about the three signers from North Carolina, all of Welsh descent, and who all survived the war and resumed their lives as attorneys and merchants afterward, living to ripe old ages here in the state. I am sure they endured hardships during the war, and I am equally sure that they are American heroes of the first order.
I am reminded that it was Benjamin Franklin who said, after the Declaration of Independence had been approved, "Gentlemen, we must now surely hang together, else we will surely hang separately."
God Bless those brave men, all.
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Originally Posted by fat tom
Friend and fellow forum member smitholdtimer sent this to me in an e-mail yesterday,but for some reason,when I attempted to copy it here,the content came up blank. I googled it and found this. Just goes to show the measure of a man's deeds as opposed to his words. How many of us are true patriots when compared to these 56 men?
THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE
THE SIGNERS
Gary Hildrith
Have you ever wondered what happened to the fifty-six men who signed the Declaration of Independence? This is the price they paid:
Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons in the revolutionary army, another had two sons captured. Nine of the fifty-six fought and died from wounds or hardships resulting from the Revolutionary War.
These men signed, and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor!
What kind of men were they? Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants. Nine were farmers and large plantation owners. All were men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty could be death if they were captured.
Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vandals or soldiers or both, looted the properties of Ellery, Clymer, Hall, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
Perhaps one of the most inspiring examples of "undaunted resolution" was at the Battle of Yorktown. Thomas Nelson, Jr. was returning from Philadelphia to become Governor of Virginia and joined General Washington just outside of Yorktown. He then noted that British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headqurt, but that the patriot's were directing their artillery fire all over the town except for the vicinity of his own beautiful home. Nelson asked why they were not firing in that direction, and the soldiers replied, "Out of respect to you, Sir." Nelson quietly urged General Washington to open fire, and stepping forward to the nearest cannon, aimed at his own house and fired. The other guns joined in, and the Nelson home was destroyed. Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis's Long Island home was looted and gutted, his home and properties destroyed. His wife was thrown into a damp dark prison cell without a bed. Health ruined, Mrs. Lewis soon died from the effects of the confinement. The Lewis's son would later die in British captivity, also.
"Honest John" Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she lay dying, when British and Hessian troops invaded New Jersey just months after he signed the Declaration. Their thirteen children fled for their lives. His fields and his grist mill were laid to waste. All winter, and for more than a year, Hart lived in forests and caves, finally returning home to find his wife dead, his chidrvanished and his farm destroyed. Rebuilding proved too be too great a task. A few weeks later, by the spring of 1779, John Hart was dead from exhaustion and a broken heart.
Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.
New Jersey's Richard Stockton, after rescuing his wife and children from advancing British troops, was betrayed by a loyalist, imprisoned, beaten and nearly starved. He returned an invalid to find his home gutted, and his library and papers burned. He, too, never recovered, dying in 1781 a broken man.
William Ellery of Rhode Island, who marveled that he had seen only "undaunted resolution" in the faces of his co-signers, also had his home burned.
Only days after Lewis Morris of New York signed the Declaration, British troops ravaged his 2,000-acre estate, butchered his cattle and drove his family off the land. Three of Morris' sons fought the British.
When the British seized the New York houses of the wealthy Philip Livingston, he sold off everything else, and gave the money to the Revolution. He died in 1778.
Arthur Middleton, Edward Rutledge and Thomas Heyward Jr. went home to South Carolin tight. In the British invasion of the South, Heyward was wounded and all three were captured. As he rotted on a prison ship in St. Augustine, Heyward's plantation was raided, buildings burned, and his wife, who witnessed it all, died. Other Southern signers suffered the same general fate.
Among the first to sign had been John Hancock, who wrote in big, bold script so George III "could read my name without spectacles and could now double his reward for 500 pounds for my head." If the cause of the revolution commands it, roared Hancock, "Burn Boston and make John Hancock a beggar!"
Here were men who believed in a cause far beyond themselves.
Such were the stories and sacrifices of the America revolution. These were not wild eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this Declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
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The sad part is they would not be allowed to post those same ideas on some forums should the same thing happen today.
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The sad part is they would not be allowed to post those same ideas on some forums should the same thing happen today.
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Well yes. They committed treason
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Originally Posted by fat tom
Friend and fellow forum member smitholdtimer sent this to me in an e-mail yesterday,but for some reason,when I attempted to copy it here,the content came up blank. I googled it and found this. Just goes to show the measure of a man's deeds as opposed to his words. How many of us are true patriots when compared to these 56 men?
THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE
THE SIGNERS
Gary Hildrith
Have you ever wondered what happened to the fifty-six men who signed the Declaration of Independence? This is the price they paid:
Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons in the revolutionary army, another had two sons captured. Nine of the fifty-six fought and died from wounds or hardships resulting from the Revolutionary War.
These men signed, and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor!
What kind of men were they? Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants. Nine were farmers and large plantation owners. All were men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty could be death if they were captured.
Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vandals or soldiers or both, looted the properties of Ellery, Clymer, Hall, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
Perhaps one of the most inspiring examples of "undaunted resolution" was at the Battle of Yorktown. Thomas Nelson, Jr. was returning from Philadelphia to become Governor of Virginia and joined General Washington just outside of Yorktown. He then noted that British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headqurt, but that the patriot's were directing their artillery fire all over the town except for the vicinity of his own beautiful home. Nelson asked why they were not firing in that direction, and the soldiers replied, "Out of respect to you, Sir." Nelson quietly urged General Washington to open fire, and stepping forward to the nearest cannon, aimed at his own house and fired. The other guns joined in, and the Nelson home was destroyed. Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis's Long Island home was looted and gutted, his home and properties destroyed. His wife was thrown into a damp dark prison cell without a bed. Health ruined, Mrs. Lewis soon died from the effects of the confinement. The Lewis's son would later die in British captivity, also.
"Honest John" Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she lay dying, when British and Hessian troops invaded New Jersey just months after he signed the Declaration. Their thirteen children fled for their lives. His fields and his grist mill were laid to waste. All winter, and for more than a year, Hart lived in forests and caves, finally returning home to find his wife dead, his chidrvanished and his farm destroyed. Rebuilding proved too be too great a task. A few weeks later, by the spring of 1779, John Hart was dead from exhaustion and a broken heart.
Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.
New Jersey's Richard Stockton, after rescuing his wife and children from advancing British troops, was betrayed by a loyalist, imprisoned, beaten and nearly starved. He returned an invalid to find his home gutted, and his library and papers burned. He, too, never recovered, dying in 1781 a broken man.
William Ellery of Rhode Island, who marveled that he had seen only "undaunted resolution" in the faces of his co-signers, also had his home burned.
Only days after Lewis Morris of New York signed the Declaration, British troops ravaged his 2,000-acre estate, butchered his cattle and drove his family off the land. Three of Morris' sons fought the British.
When the British seized the New York houses of the wealthy Philip Livingston, he sold off everything else, and gave the money to the Revolution. He died in 1778.
Arthur Middleton, Edward Rutledge and Thomas Heyward Jr. went home to South Carolin tight. In the British invasion of the South, Heyward was wounded and all three were captured. As he rotted on a prison ship in St. Augustine, Heyward's plantation was raided, buildings burned, and his wife, who witnessed it all, died. Other Southern signers suffered the same general fate.
Among the first to sign had been John Hancock, who wrote in big, bold script so George III "could read my name without spectacles and could now double his reward for 500 pounds for my head." If the cause of the revolution commands it, roared Hancock, "Burn Boston and make John Hancock a beggar!"
Here were men who believed in a cause far beyond themselves.
Such were the stories and sacrifices of the America revolution. These were not wild eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this Declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
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Great info. This exact script was read at our outdoor church service at the lake this morning...........These were men who committed to our country...Unlike the spineless buffoons we have office today.
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Brave men who would sign a document that was possibly their death warrant. Wonder how many you could find in today's America?
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I wonder how many of these original patriots are remembered in their own states today. How many have statues of them? They should all be remembered and honored as our forefathers. Hooray for them all, King George be damned.
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Most died poor.
Thomas Jefferson died 50 years to the day after the signing.
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Most died poor.
Thomas Jefferson died 50 years to the day after the signing.
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As did John Adams- hours apart.
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Brave men who would sign a document that was possibly their death warrant. Wonder how many you could find in today's America?
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Sadly,too few. An exception,many members here.
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Correct- the piece stretches some truths at best.
Still, I'm not disparaging the signers at all.
Those men KNEW they were laying it all on the line. They had just thumbed their noses at their king- the king of the greatest empire in the world.
I have always thought that only Providence could bring such a group of men together at just such a time and place to birth the greatest experiment in human government yet seen on this planet!
May God bless America!
Interesting data here on the Georgia signers-
Georgia's three Declaration of Independence signers honored | The Augusta Chronicle
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Brave, passionate and inspirational men all. They gave of themselves for a cause the believed in. Today we have politicians who take from others to enrich themselves so they can promote their own agenda. There is very little similarity between the signers and today's so-called leaders.
In this case "snopes" might be right on, but they certainly have a credibility issue for their "interpretation" of the truth. Or as Ned Beatty once said..."The truth is what I say it is"!
Thanks for posting f.t.
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Snores or no snopes. Doesn't really matter much to me. That they put their names on the piece of paper is indisputable. Everyone knew who they were and where they lived. They also knew the course they were taking was not a majority view. They were trailblazing without even the full support of their future countrymen. Pretty bold stuff. I doubt we'll ever see anything like it again.
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I've been pondering this question for a couple days now and I think I've figured it out. Did they all die in the early part of the 19th century?
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