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Replica Star Trek Phasers
I saw the thread about aliens and was reminded that I've been curious about the phaser replicas supposedly sold at Star Trek conventions, etc.
These vary a lot in detail and I think some shoot fake rays.
Does anyone here know much about them and price ranges?
Are there dealers on the Net? Has anyone bought from them?
I want a general summary of the matter, including quality comments.
For the original series style, the handle seems to also be the magazine. Do they fit the frame snugly, or are they loose?
Any Trekkers here?
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I recall William Shatner writing that the Phasers available at the Comicons or conventions were better quality than the original ones used during filming.
There are three types. Type 1: the mini type, Type 2: the pistol type, and type 3: the rifle type. The picture of the phaser in the 'alien' thread had a mini type inset into the top of it. The earlier shows had distinct types, I don't know if that changed as production went on.
There are better examples, and you get what you pay for. If you can't find (or stomach) attending a convention, eBay is your friend.
(and no I don't have one, nor do I live in my parents basement.).
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A ton on E Bay ! Most look like newer models but I didn't look that hard .. That was a GREAT show Still watch every now and then
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I've never had a star wreck phaser, but I did buy a toy Next Gen tricorder off eBay once. Was a facility engineer in a large factory, at the time. Had all kinds of real gizmos in a "utility" belt. Used it to "analysis" broken down equipment for a few days, just as a goof. It was in my kids' toy box for a long time (they never got into Star Trek), but I haven't seen, or even thought about it, in years.
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I saw the thread about aliens and was reminded that I've been curious about the phaser replicas supposedly sold at Star Trek conventions, etc.
These vary a lot in detail and I think some shoot fake rays.
Does anyone here know much about them and price ranges?
Are there dealers on the Net? Has anyone bought from them?
I want a general summary of the matter, including quality comments.
For the original series style, the handle seems to also be the magazine. Do they fit the frame snugly, or are they loose?
Any Trekkers here?
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I have no answers, but this is my favorite question ever asked on this forum.
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I just saw a full size and hefty one at the Billings Toys R Us, on clearance, about a month ago. It was made by whoever has the current toy lisc. I remember thinking that someone would probably try to rob a bank with it.
I believe this is the one I saw. Note the positive reviews.
Tragically, a fully functional model is not available to the public.
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Looks pretty good and the price is less than feared. I may look at one when I have some spare change.
How was the fit and finish on the one in Billings? Does the magazine fit the receptacle well/snugly? What batteries does it use?
Ever since I watched the original show back in college, I've wanted one. But they always struck me as a weapon designed by an engineer who wasn't much into guns. The barrel is too close to the hand, and there's no trigger guard. An AD with one if real, would be a grave matter.
I wonder which handguns there'll really be in the 23rd Century.
As much as I liked T'Pol, I think the phasers on that series, ST Enterprise, were sort of shapeless blobs with no appeal. The original series seemed to take more time with design.
Hollywood is so anti-gun that I doubt they consulted anyone who might really have good ideas for these future arms. But the idea of locking Phaser 1 into Phaser 2 as its power pack makes sense. The amplified power would make it a more dangerous item, easier to use, although neither looks to point like a good pistol should.
I had some toy ray guns as a kid, inspired by such shows as Rocky Jones, Space Ranger. I suspect that I'd have used the Ruger standard .22 auto as the basis of whatever I designed, had I been commissioned to design the guns. The Baby Nambu, minus the grip safety, might also have merit.
Klingon phasers look really unwieldy and unappealing.
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I was in a hurry when I briefly examined it. I remember remarking to my wife, hey look at this. She was less impressed, but it had been a long day and we have five small children each seeking a toy. No one else was interested in the phaser. I thus did not examine it in depth and remember only my impression that it seemed well made and realistic.
I vaguely recall Gene Roddenberry being interested in guns, but I could be mistaken. I remember Sulu having a .38 revolver in one episode for some reason.
I imagine the Federation had strict phaser control laws. But when phasers are outlawed, only outlaws will have phasers....
For the longest time ray guns were considered less violent on tv than bullets, perhaps because they were "fantasy". Thus the 80s GI Joe cartoon had Joe and Cobra armed with lasers and not bullets. I would surmise this is part of the reason that Star Trek used phasers.
Though Kirk did make gunpowder to shoot the Gorn...and there was that time they were arming the "Yangs" with flintlocks.
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Maybe it has shown up...
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Oh, the food synthesizer and the transporter I'm still waiting on.
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Remember the oddly held.....
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I had some toy ray guns as a kid, inspired by such shows as Rocky Jones, Space Ranger. I suspect that I'd have used the Ruger standard .22 auto as the basis of whatever I designed, had I been commissioned to design the guns. The Baby Nambu, minus the grip safety, might also have merit.
Klingon phasers look really unwieldy and unappealing.
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You use a regular phaser to fight your way to the armory and grab one of these, a rifle phaser. Then you and Captain James Tiberius Kirk can annihilate the bad aliens that somehow were able to transport onto the Enterprise.
Unlike bullets fired on a plane at 35,000 feet, the small personal phasers have minimal risk of causing extreme explosive decompression in the vacuum of deep space. However, sustained fire from one of these assault phasers can melt even inorganic substances such as a ship's hull.
Organisms such as carbon-based or silicon-based humanoids can be instantly vaporized, depending on the power setting. "Stun" setting may not always work as intended, depending on the organism's nervous system.
Many debates have ensued on how best to store these (at what power settings and corresponding effects on charge retention), whether they should be kept locked or readily accessible to anyone, how much charge capacity they should be limited to, whether they should be carried openly in the presence of civilians, etc., but those are discussions that can be done on another star date.
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I have a real one used by Mr. Spock to dispatch many Romulans and Klingons.
Fully documented by letters from Spock, Kirk, and Star Fleet Command. He was allowed to keep it when he retired. I am selling it for the family.
I can't guarantee that it works. I think the power cell is dead.
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Phasers? We don't need no stinkin' phasers.
With a Vulcan Death Grip who needs phasers?
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I have a real one used by Mr. Spock to dispatch many Romulans and Klingons.
Fully documented by letters from Spock, Kirk, and Star Fleet Command. He was allowed to keep it when he retired. I am selling it for the family.
I can't guarantee that it works. I think the power cell is dead.
$10,000
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I thought this was supposed to be a private deal between you and I. The phaser for the Roettinger revolver. What happened? Did someone tell you that the Roettinger gun was just a plastic replica and didn't work? That's a lie, I tell you! Are you mad because I wouldn't throw something else in? What did I do that let you down?
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Phaser... shmaser.
I want a time-share in the holodeck.
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I have a real one used by Mr. Spock to dispatch many Romulans and Klingons.
Fully documented by letters from Spock, Kirk, and Star Fleet Command. He was allowed to keep it when he retired. I am selling it for the family.
I can't guarantee that it works. I think the power cell is dead.
$10,000
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I thought this was supposed to be a private deal between you and I. The phaser for the Roettinger revolver. What happened? Did someone tell you that the Roettinger gun was just a plastic replica and didn't work? That's a lie, I tell you! Are you mad because I wouldn't throw something else in? What did I do that let you down?
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Deal ON!
Meet me at the river late tomorrow night.
I'll even do the wadin.   
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How about the Phaser for a keg of Romulan Ale??
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GatorFarmer, don't forget " A Piece of the Action" where they had Thompsons and 1911s
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What ever one you get, make sure it is one of the older models with no MIM parts and that darn Internal Lock!
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Do you have a factory letter to prove its still in factory configuration?
Starfleet allowed non factory grips at one time...
Have the original box and documents?
 
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I have a real one used by Mr. Spock to dispatch many Romulans and Klingons.
Fully documented by letters from Spock, Kirk, and Star Fleet Command. He was allowed to keep it when he retired. I am selling it for the family.
I can't guarantee that it works. I think the power cell is dead.
$10,000
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I want one that comes with an autographed picture of T'Pol in the earlier series uniform. She wore that in one episode of, "Enterprise." A pale blue one...
Those phasers don't look like they'd balance well. Top heavy and not enough weight out front.
I'll check with my son. He's into that fantasy stuff to some degree and used to date a girl who majored in Theater. They used to dress up and attend Star Wars events. Not sure about Star Trek. I guess they make pistols like Han Solo's refurbished Mauser C-96. I thought the 'scope on that was an affectation that probably limited quick use at normal pistol ranges, although it might have been handy on long range targets.
I'm trying to recall what the handguns on the original, "Battlestar Galactica" looked like. I remember one character mentioning that they were ceramic and wouldn't set off airport detectors.
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I want one that comes with an autographed picture of T'Pol in the earlier series uniform. She wore that in one episode of, "Enterprise." A pale blue one...
Those phasers don't look like they'd balance well. Top heavy and not enough weight out front.
I'll check with my son. He's into that fantasy stuff to some degree and used to date a girl who majored in Theater. They used to dress up and attend Star Wars events. Not sure about Star Trek. I guess they make pistols like Han Solo's refurbished Mauser C-96. I thought the 'scope on that was an affectation that probably limited quick use at normal pistol ranges, although it might have been handy on long range targets.
I'm trying to recall what the handguns on the original, "Battlestar Galactica" looked like. I remember one character mentioning that they were ceramic and wouldn't set off airport detectors.
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You mean like this uniform here?
...from this episode here?
Yes, T'Pol. She always made me go "Hmmmmmmmmmmm."
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You mean like this uniform here?
...from this episode here?
Yes, T'Pol. She always made me go "Hmmmmmmmmmmm."
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YES! That very uniform, in that very episode.
Being Canadian, you pronounce things differently. She made you go, Hmmmm. She made me say, Mmmmmm. And Yummmm...
I wasn't even bothered by her pointed Vulcan ears. This is one place where I'm prepared to accept diversity.
I need to check Jolene Blalock's bio. Has she gotten any roles since then?
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How about a picture of the box end label?
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I have a real one used by Mr. Spock to dispatch many Romulans and Klingons.
Fully documented by letters from Spock, Kirk, and Star Fleet Command. He was allowed to keep it when he retired. I am selling it for the family.
I can't guarantee that it works. I think the power cell is dead.
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Ya got a factory letter for that? If not remember the sage advice, "believe the gun not the story
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I don't have any phasers, Tribbles or anything like that but I do have the complete DVD sets of TOS, Voyager and Enterprise. My favorite piece of Star Trek memorabilia though is just a little slip of paper. But on it is written:
To Calvin,
Live long and prosper.
Gene Roddenberry
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I don't have any phasers, Tribbles or anything like that but I do have the complete DVD sets of TOS, Voyager and Enterprise. My favorite piece of Star Trek memorabilia though is just a little slip of paper. But on it is written:
To Calvin,
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The main thing to remember is that if you're about to beam down to another planet, regardless of what weapons you've been issued DON'T wear a red shirt.
Them dudes NEVER come back.
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I have a real one used by Mr. Spock to dispatch many Romulans and Klingons.
Fully documented by letters from Spock, Kirk, and Star Fleet Command. He was allowed to keep it when he retired. I am selling it for the family.
I can't guarantee that it works. I think the power cell is dead.
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Yep, it's really nice. A replica of the hero props used int eh the original series. One of our friends worked in the special effects for years and got to see original props. He has one and now so do we. Contemplating a duel with phasers for halloween <G>
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But will it handle +P Gamma Rays like the 1950 N framed models?
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Don't forget the original Laser. #1 (later to be Nurse Chapel) put it on overload. It was gonna blow up and kill all of them. I don't believe the Phasers had that capability.
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Phasers could be put on overload. There were a couple of episodes where they used the "phaser on overload" dramatic device to scare the wits out of us. I don't remember the specific episodes at this time, but please don't take away my "original Star Fleet Breast-symbol collection" over it.
When we were kids, some of us wanted a phaser (to disintegrate our enemies or schoolyard bullies no matter what they may claim today), or a tri-corder, or a transporter, or a communicator. It seems to me that the kids who wanted and dreamed of a communicator sold themselves short on future technology because now for all intents and purposes everybody has one. With more functions than Kirk's ever had, I might add.
Those who wanted a tri-corder would have to admit that the technology for one of those is looming on the horizon also. Again, they sold themselves short.
I suppose if I had a working phaser I might be tempted to use it on some of the local taxis but I could probably get over that. Besides, the machine that Kirk had in his quarters for making people just "disappear" in the episode "Mirror, Mirror" would work just as well without ever having to leave home.
Those who picked "transporter" as the Star Trek device to have did not sell themselves short. If I had one of those right now, I'd get my kicks transporting World Leaders (and some just-hopefuls) into Vladimir Putin's inner office without warning and without qualm just to hear about the outcomes on the Late Night News. Any reports from Starlets that they were transported into my inner-office and then later being accused of " stalking" me would of course be totally invented by the Starlets involved. I'm above that.
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