Is there anyway to report abuse of handicap placards? Not license plates but those plastic things that hang off the inside mirror.

I know someone who is clearly misusing them....in fact I don't believe for a minute there is any legitimate reason for this person to have them..... and I see it every day and it drives me absolutely insane.

I tried Googling this and all I can find is the PA DMV topics on how to apply

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From an Iowa hanging placard, quotes applicable Iowa Code 321L , may result in fine, invalidation of placard, or revocation of the right to use the placard.
The placard says Iowa DOT, gives address and phone number in the state capital.
So the presumption is that you would call your state DMV, or DOT. Local DMV office may have the exact number to call.

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You should report it, but only if you're absolutely sure about the individual. I, myself, have one of those hangers issued by my doctor. If you were to see me just standing around, you might think I was faking it & did not need a placard. But, if I were walking, once you saw me lurching along you'd realize that I needed the placard. I hate it when I see someone parking in one of the disabled slots springing out of the car & trotting into the store! They're obviously driving a vehicle that belongs to someone else & taking advantage of the situation. Like a lot of people here, I have good days & bad days. On a good day, I'll park in a regular slot & hope that someone that is having a bad day gets the spot.

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I see it all the time and it frustrates me too. Far too often I see someone pull into a handicap parking space, throw that little handicap sign on the rear view mirror, and proceed to hop out of the vehicle and walk into the store as good or better than me. Could be that some of them have an intermittent handicap but maybe not. I do think these handicap placards are far too easy to get.

On the other hand, I truly admire folks with a legitimate handicap that go on about their daily lives and don't let their disability get the best of them. These people are heroes in my mind.

I cannot say that I honestly 100% know that it's fake but seeing this person almost every day I don't see an issue. This person has no problem carrying many bags while balancing a cell phone between the head and shoulders and walking. All digits and appendages are accounted for, there is no lurching or limping or walking with the help of a cane. No stopping to catch breath. Walks around the office no problem, always wears fashionable shoes that are not good for posture or legs or back and I never once heard a complaint of something hurting. Of course I do not see this person every moment of every day but in 15 years I've never seen anything to indicate the need for handicap placards. Maybe it's was a temp issue after surgery or something but with all evidence I see there isn't justification to have it now.

I'll add that this person is very ...."woo is me" ...type with a healthy dose of everyone owes me. kinda like it's too hard to carry all my Gucci shopping bags that far...wish I could park closer. The car is not borrowed

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Aloha,

One way to help make sure the correct person is using the placard,

is to put the disabled person's photo on it.

That's what we did in Honolulu when the City was issuing them.

We also put a photo on the ID card.

Made it easier for LE who can issue citation for misuse.

I think they should have their legs cut off with a chainsaw

Kinda how I feel. Want to use it? Let karma work it's majic

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Forgot to mention. I asked a reletive why this person has a handicap placard and the answer was "I have no idea"

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I had a idiot BIL that used the car his mother was driven around in. He took full advantage of the mirror hang and used it all the time for his own use.

I saw the car in a handicapped spot one day and then saw a LEO Sergent friend of mine patrolling the lot and gave him the story. He at my request did not take the tag(as my MIL really needed it) but made it undeniably clear what problems would occur unless his mother was in the car as he was putting this in his officers briefings

I was present a year later at the house when she died and unbeknown to anyone I went out in the garage and took the hang tag out of the car.

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I like the idea of calling the DMV. Surely the people who issue the handicapped signs are interested in preventing their abuse.

My wife has MS and a hang tag. Some days are better than others. On the bad days she uses the tag and usually a crutch or cane. On the good days, she parks in regular spots. As much as it upsets us all to see this abuse, I doubt it is a priority for LE or the folks who issue the tag. I don't have a good answer to the OP other than to repeatedly report the violation to see if there is anyone official who cares and can do something.

I absolutely agree. Please, remember not all cases are apparent. Heart disease is deceiving. Not everyone suffers the same way. Just something to think about before fronting someone. I have a man who works for me who is missing a leg and you would never know it, but believe me, he suffers, for real. NEVER whines!

Well if you live in the "Land of Handicapped Plates and Hangers"
Not just all the folks that live here but those from out of State.
Most Box stores have so many parking spots reserved it is difficult to get a spot close.

it is one of those things that you become numb to.

Fl has tried to crack down on the old 200 ft rule, and requires renewal every year. But it seems many can find a Dr to just issue one.
There are so many here and just by looking at the folks you truly wonder??

Here is the application to get one.

I think most of them are #8 LEGALLY BLIND

Be sure of you FACTS before reporting someone, the hanger should have a ID #

Had a friend at work who ran the small cafeteria. He could joke about being "visually impaired" he would say hell no I am blind!

Anyway he laughed about getting a free lifetime Fishing AND HUNTING license!!

https://www.flhsmv.gov/dmv/forms/BTR/83039.pdf

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Why be so judgemental? To judge by virtue of simple observation will only lead to an assumption. Now if you want to, confront the person and validate or invalidate your suspicions by the response or lack of response then go for it. But to assume based on observation is simply premature....so now you want to profile based on whether a person acts, walks, talks or looks disabled.......leave it be.

Just because you don't see the issue does not mean it's not real. Mine is very real but you can't tell the pain from looking.

I suggest you mind your own business.

Excuse me for asking. And I can tell you there is no pain. Working in the same office with this person for 15 years. The only time there is pain is when they can't take a month vacation. And as I said....I asked the S.I.L who said he has no idea why they have the plaque.

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off with his legs!

Well... I don't have a placard but I'm pretty sure I could get one if I wanted to. I have chemo induced peripheral neuropathy. You would never know. Even a short walk makes my feet go numb & tingly. It can be painful.

Lots of people have bad knees, bad feet, bad lungs... a long list of stuff you can't see.

Make damn sure. Or better yet don't worry about it & go on with your life...

I applied for a placard one time but "tourette syndrome" doesn't qualify.

I don't think that handicap abuse is high on the list for law enforcement and I don't think they would appreciate vigilantes doing it for them.

You might get some satisfaction from a place of business if you were handicapped and couldn't find a spot because of some lowlife grabbing the spot but otherwise just move on.These abusers will never change.We should be lucky if that's the worst thing they do.

If all of us got in a circle and tossed our problems in the middle for others to see, most of us would snatch our own problems back pretty quickly . . .

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Your town should have a compliance dept. that drives around and checks for cars in HC spots without a sticker or tag, etc. If you're 100%, call your town and ask for compliance. I'm not sure they will be willing (or able) to research him further with the HIPAA laws and an aversion to rocking the boat.

If it's issued by a doctor, I think you're going to be out of luck. Look at all the fraudulent worker's comp and disability cases out there!

I hope I have in no way offended anyone with a disability or need of a HC tag. Not my intension, just an reply to Arik's question!

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She complains about absolutely everything. If it's too hot, too cold, not enough paper in the fax machine, food, service at a restaurant, her car. On top of that I know everything about her family and her friends and their families because she always talks about absolutely everything to everyone. ..except for this. No problem standing in line at the bank or anywhere else.

I know what heart failure is....my dad has it.

Has no problem walking in 12 inch heels or whatever with her head glued to the phone when carrying bags of whatever she just bought while walking in those heels. No problem juging in them to pick up her phone in a different room. Moving boxes....not a problem. Picking up and moving chairs also not a problem.

Like I said. IN 15 YEARS I have yet to see ANY sort of physical limitations and she's not the type to suck it up.

Confrontation is pointless because the answer is "none of your business". And it's none of my business because there is nothing. On top of that she's the owners wife and while I do not work for him or her and really couldn't give a piece if the were on fire in front of me I may make it difficult for my boss. So I don't say anything otherwise I have no issues calling it like I see it

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Let it go. The world if full of scheming, low down dirty ***'s
Always has been always will. Don't let the witch steal your joy.
I promise you she is a rotten, miserable, lonesome, loathsome shell of a person herself. Don't fall into her rabbit hole or misery, just ignore her and move on with your life.

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Call it like you perceive it, but you will never know the facts. Your observations are just anecdotal but hey it's her bee in your bonnet.


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At Christmas time down in DFW area I saw a lot of "checking". In TX and AR there are codes on the tag that match your driver's license, so it is easy. Even if disabled, you have to be using your own issued tag if checked by an officer.

My Mom has plates, but I have to carry my hang tag as well, as my name is not listed for her plates.

Also, if they enforce on private property parking, it is as a result of a request from the property over in most cases. At my office, the enforcement is done first by building security. If your situation is private property, and the owner does not care, local LE is not likely to go looking for trouble.

Well said.

I spoke to two ladies at WM this morning, asking how they were doing, and both just frowned. I replied that they should just watch the folks come in struggling to walk and then their problems wouldn't seem so bad.

I have a placard in my auto and truck, because of my wife's artifical knee and other ailments. I did not use a handicap space today since I was by myself. I can't stand the thought of using a space, then someone coming along and really needing it.

Have a blessed day,

Leon

My first question is...how do you know?

Unless you know the person, I'd be really careful about reporting someone.

And unless you're legitimately handicapped yourself, and the person's taking space that you should have access to, I'd just mind my own business.

Illegal use of handicapped stickers and hangers happens every day in every town in every state. You aren't gonna stop it.

You sure you want to start that kind of urinating contest at work?

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Me personally. ...I don't care. I work with them, not for them. And generally I don't like their attitude so I have no problem picking a fight and keeping it going, in fact I keep a few past grievances alive and kicking. However I don't want to cause problems for my boss so I haven't said anything aside from asking her son in law who said he's never heard of any physical issues or limitations

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That right there, my thought as well. I wonder how many use a family member's HP tagged car or placard. My dad was happy to use my mom's placard, even though he was able to get around fine. I got on him about it.

In this day it's almost impossible to know who needs one and who doesn't. Just because a person looks healthy doesn't mean they are.

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I don't see any problem in needling entitled twits,but it usually has consequences

I used to work for a government agency that issued these types of permits. They would not turn down anyone. I know of two specific abuses that still stick in my craw. One was a freeloader that refereed football and basketball and could run up and down the court and field but had to have a placard and the other was a still working city fireman.
In my experience the truly handicapped were the least likely to ask special favors or have an attitude.

Widely abused system that will never be fixed so just grit your teeth and go on.

I doff my hat to your wife. Barbara and I participated in Wyoming's MS 150-mile bike ride for several years and sponsored our bank's team after moving to the mountain.

Wyo has the highest per capita rate of MS in the nation. Many of the MS 150 riders have MS and participate as best they can. I never saw a HC mirror hanger on any of their vehicles.

Even before I met so many of those strong souls I began parking as far as I could from store entrances and counted my lucky stars that I could make that walk without pain or assistance. I feel for the ones who can't, whether their reason is real or contrived.

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Bob

It's none of my business, nor is it any business of the government to be running around mandating how property owners operate their parking areas.

I don't go out much, handicapped, disabled what ever. Most of the time the handicap parking is too far from the entrance to the store like at tractor supply. Or there aren't enough handicap parking spots. I use a walker and I meet a lot of kind people.

At Christmas time I see people use the handicap parking spot the run inside the store, no sticker is used. That bites my butt.
When I used a cane I would park in a normal spot to leave the handicap spots for people worse off than me.

I rented a power chair once and caught abuse I was trying to get out of there way being nice.

My wife and I are both disabled and have the mirror hang tag and license plates on both cars. I walk w/a cane and she has RA so bad that her joints just don't work very well. When I see someone without a permit occupy a HP space I call the non emergency police number and report them. I'm too old and too smart to confront anyone.

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Local tv news outlets usually love to run with stories like that.


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This a GREAT subject, that I've talked about on here before! I am handicapped and it's obvious. I wear shorts 90% of the time and you can clearly see my amutated leg.

It upsets me to no end to see people abusing the placards or not having one at all, parking in handicap spots!

Report them if you can! I would!!

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I am permanently disabled due to an accident over 9 years ago. Until I was authorized to resume driving, I had a temporary (red) placard. Once I resumed driving (and I accepted the reality that I would never be as good as I had been before the accident), I obtained the permanent (blue) placard. When a handicapped person gets either a placard or handicapped plates, they are issued a handicapped person ID. When I am operating a vehicle, or passenger in same, I must have that ID with me if I am using a handicapped parking space. Technically, if a person is using a handicapped space and doesn't have the handicapped ID when challenged, they are subject to a large fine and community service.

FWIW, since surgery last September (number 24), I have been getting around rather well, but need to stop and rest after about 30 yards on a bad day. On a good day, if someone doesn't see the scars and brace, they could swear that I was abusing the privilege. Sometimes, I just don't have the endurance to hide the pain of every day tasks.

I will be quite frank, I do get mad when I see cars in handicapped spaces that don't display tags or placards. Since most parking lots are private property, LEOs don't like to get involved, and many stores could care less. Personally, I will not provide my handicapped ID to anyone other than a LEO or a store representative. I don't have to justify myself to any old Joe Schmoe.

If you really feel that someone is abusing handicapped parking privileges, you can report the vehicle at this site. Don’t know how much good it does, but I always feel better! Handicapped Parking Fraud - Handicapped Parking Violators - Help Make a Difference

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I let it go, but my husband sometimes reports these instances when it affects me. We live next to a university, and the healthy female students seem to think the spots are meant for them. If he see's the campus sticker without a placard, he gets tweaked.

Here in SC, the photo from your drivers license is laminated onto the mirror placard. Removes doubt from concerned citizens, but of course I hate my picture.

I'm disabled, I have a degenerative peripheral motor nerve condition and a few years ago my neurologist was ready to plop my butt in one of those electric scooty chairs.
I actually told him, "(expletive deleted) that!"
Took me most of a year and lotsa help from my wife but I relearned to walk using the muscles that still work. Also, with the help of my family doctor, I researched and found supplements and a prescription pill that help to keep me up and mobile.
The point is that if you saw me, you'd never figure that there's anything "wrong" with me. I look as healthy as can be.
I do have a placard but I generally leave the handicapped spaces for people worse off than me.
I say "generally" because some days are better than others. Cold weather really messes with me. Also if I'm going to be somewhere and I know that my meds'll wear off by the time I leave, I'll go ahead and use the handicapped parking. I know I'll have difficulties getting to the car later.

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Look at Title 18, Chapter 49, Subsection 4903, part B. It has to do with false swearing. When they fill out an application for a handicap tag/placard they are swearing the information they provided is correct.

Good luck finding a law enforcement agency who would prosecute someone violating that. Although the PA DMV (click this link) may help you. They usually spend a lot of time prosecuting individuals who use stolen information to obtain false state IDs.

After 60 years in a wheelchair, Ruthie's sister no longer gets upset at parking spot abusers. She refuses to let it ruin one minute of her day.

My mom, on the other hand(83 with COPD and requires oxygen), will climb in their grill and stay there until she gains satisfaction. It's a beautiful thing to watch.......I should sell tickets.

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I have had back surgery and also has an artificial right leg (BTN) In addition a pinched nerve in my back from spinal arthritis. I have a placard and in summer I wear shorts so no one complains. I normally park in a regular spot as there are people who need the handicapped spots worse than me. On bad days I will use the spot if available. I also use a cane as in addition of helping me sometimes it makes a dandy self defense weapon . If you saw me walking without the cane you would just notice a small limp so you really can't judge someone by looking at them.

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I got into it with a guy at the VA yesterday for parking in a handicapped spot. No placard. I asked if he was handicapped and got a smart *** answer. So I parked directly behind his car and he went south on me. There was a VA Cop standing nearby who came over. Found out the guy wasn't handicapped and wrote him a $200 ticket and made him move his car. I love happy endings.

DW

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I'm in a weird position with this, my wife is entitled to a handicapped parking spot I am not.

When I'm out without her I don't use a spot but when I come home in the morning and I know she's going to be the next person into the car I park in the handicap spot for her convenience.

We have neighbor who had a placard because she was a caregiver for a disabled kid and she abused the Hell out of it until she lost the job.
Long story short my wife and I ran into her several times in that spot out in front of our apartment and she'd watch me helping my wife out of the car and over the curbs and she Did. Not. Give. A. Damn. and nothing I or anyone else said was going to change that.

You can watch hours of videos about this on You Tube and not one of the people they catch cares.

I don't waste my time anymore

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I knew a 75 year old dentist who had a placard for his wife.He was quite healthy himself,but abused the privelage and took pride in it

But can you walk casually in high heels?