Gun accidental discharge

Status
Not open for further replies.
M

Megan406p

Member
Joined
Jun 20, 2017
Messages
11
Reaction score
8
Okay please no ride comments as I was a witness of the events......saturday night me my husband and children were in the car his sd 9 was in the holster beside the seat he grabbed it to put it on his belt and it went off his finger was ne where near the trigger it was still in the holster at this time and stayed in the holster throughout the events as again I was a witness and he know proper gun safety....my question has this ever happened? The bullet did go straight through his knee
 
Last edited:
Register to hide this ad
Welcome to the forum....

You won't get any bad vibes from me. I'm glad when people tell me what CAN happen. Things don't always work as they should. I'd get that gun checked and try to get to the bottom of what happened.

I count on the 'cross check' of the rules so that I know that if a gun were to go off at least it wouldn't hit anybody.

Treat guns as if they were loaded and ready to fire.
Always point them in a safe direction
Don't point at anything you don't intend to shoot.
Keep you finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.

I'm not sure if the situation you describe was stoppable by these rules especially if a gun fires with no trigger contact and safeties are on, etc. etc.

I had a negligent discharge one time. My son as a later teenager was interested in my guns. Like most kids, he's big on semi auto weapons. He asked to see my guns and I took all the semis out of the safe and cleared mags and chambers in all of them. Then he reached into the safe and pulls out a revolver that I hadn't safed. Assuming it was unloaded, he pulled the trigger and shot the back of the safe. I was appalled and felt fortunate that no one got hurt. I've drilled gun safety into him and doubled it for me.

The thought of not being a safe and responsible gun owner is too much for me to bear. That's why I like to hear about these things. In spite of what we 'think' may be right, an ND is still possible.
 
I am wondering if maybe the holster was fabric, has a light trigger pull, and somehow the trigger got tripped when your husband grabbed the holster?

Or — and I don't know much about semis so not sure if this is possible — push off?

Sometimes with a revolver, if worn or not properly maintained, the hammer, when cocked back in single action, can be pushed with the thumb and made to fall without pulling the trigger... In this scenario, your husband grabs the gun in its holster and his hand pushs the hammer causing it to fall and fire the weapon.

I believe that's possible with a revolver anyway. Someone else, more familair than I with semis, can tell us if it is possible with your husband's pistol.

Hmm. Looked up SD9, and see it has an internal hammer, so my push off idea would not make sense. I'll leave my comment up anyway, as it might get someone smarter than me thinking in the right direction.
 
Last edited:
Gun handling is like driving a car, everybody is an expert and wont listen to anything others have to say about their abilities. It is just human nature. The person who shot himself violated the number 1 rule in firearms safety. That being "never point a firearm at anything you don't want to shoot".
 
I hope your husband recovers fully and has no permanent knee problems. I'm sorry you all had to go through this.
I would have the gun checked by a good gunsmith, an SD shouldn't go off that easily. Also take the holster in and let the gunsmith look at it. I have heard of Glocks having accidental discharges from holsters that put pressure on the triggers. Let the gunsmith check how the gun sits in the holster and where pressure would be as someone wears it while sitting down, moving around, etc.
Our thoughts go out to you.
 
Hoping you'll share the make and model of the holster, maybe a photo. Also hope for a good medical outcome.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 
All my years of messing around with guns of all sorts I have never seen a gun go off all by itself. There is always a human involved. I call these occurrences negligent discharges,as it is the responsibility of the firearm handler to make sure they never happen. I'm glad there were no more serious injuries.
 
Most likely holster. Was the holster made for that gun or is it for another and just happened to fit? Old worn out holster? Was it a quality holster or one of those cheap ones?

Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk
 
please tell us what kind of holster ? Also has the gun had any modifications like a spring kit etc ? Just trying to understand.
Thanks for the info
Nortm
 
Megan406p said:
Okay, please no rude comments as I was a witness to the events. Saturday night, me, my husband and children were in the car. His SD9 was in the holster beside the seat. He grabbed it to put it on his belt and it went off. His finger was nowhere near the trigger. It was still in the holster at this time and stayed in the holster throughout the events as again, I was a witness and he knows proper gun safety. My question: Has this ever happened? The bullet did go straight through his knee.
Click to expand...
Ouch. :( I hope your husband will be okay.

I own an SD9VE and an SD40VE. I've had no similar issues handling either gun. Both of mine have very stiff MA-compliant triggers so I can't speak directly to the (possibly lighter) trigger on your husband's SD9. :o

That said, it sounds like the reports we hear of the occasional Glock going off in a "snagged the holstered gun while exiting the car" scenario wherein the trigger manages to catch on something. :( One needs to be especially careful when manipulating a loaded, holstered pistol in a car. :cool:
 
one way it can happen...

Sometimes it is embarrassing, sometimes it's painful, but when loaded guns are involved, any accident is serious business. My notion for any no safety, striker fired pistol, “Rigid Holster. Molded Holster. Always. Know where your muzzle is pointing.”
 

Attachments

  • 5546662595_4b5d2dfaa1_o.jpg
    5546662595_4b5d2dfaa1_o.jpg
    65.2 KB · Views: 187
  • Image000054.jpg
    Image000054.jpg
    64.1 KB · Views: 187
Last edited by a moderator:
I am sorry and wish for a full recovery.

Exposed hammers are nice in this regard. You can hold your thumb on the hammer when holstering and thus prevent the gun from firing. It works both for cocked and uncocked hammers.
 
A fatigued leather holster (edge rolled inward) or catching the trigger on the upholstery piping might have caused it.
 
I see three possibilities here.

1. Defective firearm. The gun should be checked by a gunsmith. If a problem is found, that opens up more questions such as has it been modified? if not, S&W should be informed. There's a good chance that they will want to examine it themselves. If there is a problem, they need to determine if its just the one pistol or a design flaw that could affect others.

2. Improper holster. Cheap or improperly fitting holsters have been the cause of quite a few negligent discharges. I too would like to know what brand and model holster was used. Specifically, was the trigger guard covered and what type material was it made of?

3. Hubby messed up. It is entirely possible that your husband hit the trigger without realizing it. These things happen in a split second and in the aftermath, details of just what happened and what you did can easily become blurred. Its just human nature to deny your own fault. But even the best of us can slip up now and then.
Quite honestly, no matter what either of you think you saw or believe happened, you can't completely rule out the possibility.

Given the limited information provided, I tend to lean toward the holster and/or a combination of the holster and human error being the cause. However, much more information is needed to draw any definite conclusions.

Its been said that there are two types of gun owners. Those who have had a negligent discharge and those who will.

I hope your husband has a full recovery.
 
The type of holster is a good question.

- some sort of soft holster that allowed pressure to pass through and depress the trigger?
- a holster that retains using a snap or block that drops into the trigger guard at a less than perfect place for the weapon (there are a lot of those)?

Just some thoughts ...
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rpg
LOADED GUNS IN A "SAFE"

rwsmith said:
You won't get any bad vibes from me. I'm glad when people tell me what CAN happen. Things don't always work as they should. I'd get that gun checked and try to get to the bottom of what happened.

I count on the 'cross check' of the rules so that I know that if a gun were to go off at least it wouldn't hit anybody.

Treat guns as if they were loaded and ready to fire.
Always point them in a safe direction
Don't point at anything you don't intend to shoot.
Keep you finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.

I'm not sure if the situation you describe was stoppable by these rules especially if a gun fires with no trigger contact and safeties are on, etc. etc.

I had a negligent discharge one time. My son as a later teenager was interested in my guns. Like most kids, he's big on semi auto weapons. He asked to see my guns and I took all the semis out of the safe and cleared mags and chambers in all of them. Then he reached into the safe and pulls out a revolver that I hadn't safed. Assuming it was unloaded, he pulled the trigger and shot the back of the safe. I was appalled and felt fortunate that no one got hurt. I've drilled gun safety into him and doubled it for me.

The thought of not being a safe and responsible gun owner is too much for me to bear. That's why I like to hear about these things. In spite of what we 'think' may be right, an ND is still possible.
Click to expand...

Think about the term SAFE for a moment, perhaps loaded firearm container might be better suited. If there were a remote chance I'd need a gun ready in an instant, the last place I'd want it is in a locked container. I'd venture it takes a great deal of time longer to open the safe, than to insert a mag & work the slide, ESPECIALLY if there are numerous guns in there. Gonna need each one at a moments notice? Best wishes for a speedy & full recovery for the GSW victim.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

Onomea
Secret Service Negligent Discharge
2
Replies
35
Views
1K
robvious
robvious
max
Gun Store Etiquette
2 3
Replies
41
Views
2K
Smeckler
S
Fessor
Amarillo gun shops
Replies
1
Views
364
rbmac52
rbmac52
R
Ft. Worth gun show
Replies
0
Views
128
rockquarry
R
Narragansett
Gun insurance
2
Replies
20
Views
745
Waxster60
W

Latest posts

Back
Top