AGS White Lithium Grease....

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I've pretty much settled on White Lithium Grease to use for my gun/reloading needs. I use it on my reloading press and it works very well. I also use it on firearms where grease seems a better choice than oil. My Kel Tec 9mm carbine with the big bolt that travels back through a steel tube and a pump shotgun seem to like lithium grease. It's not very messy, stays where it's put, etc.

To keep in the house with my gun cleaning supplies I got a tube of AGS White Lithium grease from Ace Hardware that I've had about a year or so.

The last time I tried to use it, it had become clear and runny. When I squeezed the tube to mix it, it got whiter, but was still pretty runny. I shot a little into the trash to get past the runny part and it looked some whiter and thicker, but still a little runny.

Does this seem right to those who use white lithium grease?
 
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rwsmith said:
Does this seem right to those who use white lithium grease?
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Yes, it does. I have a screw-drive garage door opener that is supposed to be lubricated with Lubriplate. I ran out of Lubriplate, and instead I decided to use some white lithium grease I had on hand. Not long thereafter, I found my car covered with grease spatters from the opener. That's when I discovered that lithium grease runs, and Lubriplate doesn't. It took a lot of work to get all of that runny grease out of the screw drive. With your guns, where you're using tiny amounts of lithium grease, running may not be a problem, but don't use it on your garage door opener!
 
Here's something I found by myself about 20 years ago. It had been called Teflon paste then, now it is just called Super Lube with Teflon. It works. Comes in a silver plastic squeeze tube. I use this on the slides and friction surfaces in a semi-automatic. It does not accumulate nor attract grit and burnt powder.

As I cannot connect a link, here is some copy and paste verbiage:
Super Lube Anti-Corrosion & Connector Gel - 3 oz tube. High molecular weight connector gel. Better barrier protection than conventional grease. Superior corrosion protection. Temperature range from -45 degrees F to +500 degrees F. Excellent resistance to saltwater and most detergents
Will not dry out or form harmful abrasive deposits No oil separation High dielectric capability

On the internals of a revolver I use a High Heat Synthetic wheel bearing grease, Key words, HIGH HEAT, SYNTHETIC, wheel bearing grease. Valvoline & Castrol both make it as does Mobil. I use the Mobil type. It is either a deep red or a blue color depending on the manufacturer.

It doesn't dry out and cake up like the lube S&W had used in some of the older guns. I have no idea what S&W uses on the new revolver.
 
I use High Temp gun grease, made by several manufactures. Is Red and comes in a syringe. I keep some with the cleaning kits and some of the guns (I have about 8 syringes) doesn't get thin and run at Ohio summer heat, even in hot cars!

Ivan
 
I have a can of the stuff I bought about 25 years ago. It is a good lubricant however it seems to attract an abnormal amount of dust when ever I have tried it. Maybe it's because of the light color that I just notice this more, but I don't use it in guns because of this.

When ever a gun that I own calls for grease I use Rig +P grease or Military Grease where specified. The Rig +P works exceptionally well and seems to attract less dust than the Lithium - but again, I might just be noticing it more because of the Lithium's white color. I do use the Lithium Grease around the house on less critical items and yes it works well.
 
OH goody, a thread that can morph into a GUN lube discussion.:D

Grease is good for certain applications.

How can a gun "like" grease, did you ask it?;)

Teflon? Many gun lubes contain Teflon (PTFE) There are now spray cans of Teflon "dry" lube.

Show me one gun manufacturers manual/recommendation that calls for GREASE to be used in lubing the firearm?:confused:
 
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Rule3 said:
OH goody, a thread that can morph into a GUN lube discussion.:D

Grease is good for certain applications.

How can a gun "like" grease, did you ask it?;)

Teflon? Many gun lubes contain Teflon (PTFE) There are now spray cans of Teflon "dry" lube.

Show me one gun manufacturers manual/recommendation that calls for GREASE to be used in lubing the firearm?:confused:
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Gun manuals calling for grease:

M1 Garand
Browning Superposed Shotgun (hinges)
 
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Only two places...

Rule3 said:
OH goody, a thread that can morph into a GUN lube discussion.:D

Grease is good for certain applications.

How can a gun "like" grease, did you ask it?

Teflon? Many gun lubes contain Teflon (PTFE) There are now spray cans of Teflon "dry" lube.:D

Show me one gun manufacturers manual/recommendation that calls for GREASE to be used in lubing the firearm?:confused:
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I've got more than a dozen guns of different types and nothing but oil goes on them as per instructions. But the Kel Tec has a big cylindrical bolt (blowback) that cycles back and forth in the thin steel tube and it does a LOT of cycling (30 round mag) I just thought light grease better to stay in place. I could use a thicker oil probably as well. but the things slides back and forth about 6" in operation. I may rethink using gun oil in the bolt but I'll have to find something thicker.

I was leery about the reliability of the Kel tec, but I've had it a while now and it seems to work fine with how I treat it. That's what I mean by 'liking'.

My Browning A5 gets oil, but the rails on the pump shotgun also cycle pretty far and are suspended touching nothing when the guns not in use, so again, (I felt) that something thicker was in order there. I don't have thicker oil, but I figured light grease was about the same thing.

There are a zillion things I could use, but I want to stay with stuff I can walk into a store and buy. I don't have any experience with anything close to suitable.

And I haven't seen any manuals recommend TFE or silicon spray either.:D
 
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chief38 said:
Gun manuals calling for grease:

M1 Garand
Browning Superposed Shotgun (hinges)
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OK that's 1 and 1/2 out of a gazillion.:D

Plus the M1 :

Gen. George S. Patton boldly declared, “In my opinion, the M1 rifle is the greatest battle implement ever devised.”


rwsmith said:
I've got more than a dozen guns of different types and nothing but oil goes on them as per instructions. But the Kel Tec has a big cylindrical bolt (blowback) that cycles back and forth in the thin steel tube and it does a LOT of cycling (30 round mag) I just thought light grease better to stay in place. I could use a thicker oil probably as well. but the things slides back and forth about 6" in operation. I may rethink using gun oil in the bolt but I'll have to find something thicker.

I was leery about the reliability of the Kel tec, but I've had it a while now and it seems to work fine with how I treat it. That's what I mean by 'liking'.

My Browning A5 gets oil, but the rails on the pump shotgun also cycle pretty far and are suspended touching nothing when the guns not in use, so again, (I felt) that something thicker was in order there. I don't have thicker oil, but I figured light grease was about the same thing.

There are a zillion things I could use, but I want to stay with stuff I can walk into a store and buy. I don't have any experience with anything close to suitable.

And I haven't seen any manuals recommend TFE or silicon spray either.:D
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I never said silicone spray but I do use it in mt magazines.

Many many manuals call for CLP. The active ingredient is PTFE as is the recommended SIG lube and others.

Heck even the 50 cal machine gun calls for CLP.

Just because you can not "see" a lube doesn't mean it's not there and working.

Heck use Moly Grease and you will never have to re grease it again;) Stuff is tenacious as all get out.

But if you and your gun are happy with grease, go for it.
 
Rule3 said:
OH goody, a thread that can morph into a GUN lube discussion.:D

Grease is good for certain applications.

How can a gun "like" grease, did you ask it?;)

Teflon? Many gun lubes contain Teflon (PTFE) There are now spray cans of Teflon "dry" lube.

Show me one gun manufacturers manual/recommendation that calls for GREASE to be used in lubing the firearm?:confused:
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It did not "morph", it started with the subject of using white lithium grease as a lubricant / protective coating.

You have your choices and uses of lubricants, each of us have our own. It is not for us to dog you nor for you to dog us.

Some of us have guns we put away for long term storage. Like the old 1950s and early S&W's put away in the box when new, if you take it out the action will not move. Many people think the gun is damaged, when it is not. It is the factory grease in the internal mechanisms, under the side plate, that have solidified. After cleaning out the caked up grease, a very light pack with synthetic, high heat, wheel bearing grease back into the action, will eliminate this from happening again.

Oh, take a later model .44 Magnum, anyone from 1970s up Open the sideplate, clean out all the grease. Blow it out dry. Spray some of your stuff in there. Close it back up, then shake the revolver vigorously You'll hear parts tapping around in there ... usually the free floating hammer block arm. A dab or Grease in there, prevents that aggravating lose parts noise.

yes, if you use your guns frequently, your sprays and oils work well for you as does with most of us.

As for "grease". Does U.S. Military specs work for you as a legitimate, presiding authority ? Have you ever cleaned a US gun that had been packed away in RIG / Cosmolene ? It hardens over time and is not a simple task to remove. Synthetic High Heat wheel bearing grease will NOT harden. Google: COSMOLENE

These are just us gun guys sharing our experiences and opinions. It's not the Heavyweight championship of the world. Lighten up, it's not that serious a matter. These are just comment and suggestions NO one is beating you up with words, here.
 
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model3sw said:
It did not "morph", it started with the subject of using white lithium grease as a lubricant / protective coating.

You have your choices and uses of lubricants, each of us have our own. It is not for us to dog you nor for you to dog us.

Some of us have guns we put away for long term storage. Like the old 1950s and early S&W's put away in the box when new, if you take it out the action will not move. Many people think the gun is damaged, when it is not. It is the factory grease in the internal mechanisms, under the side plate, that have solidified. After cleaning out the caked up grease, a very light pack with synthetic, high heat, wheel bearing grease back into the action, will eliminate this from happening again.

Oh, take a later model .44 Magnum, anyone from 1970s up Open the sideplate, clean out all the grease. Blow it out dry. Spray some of your stuff in there. Close it back up, then shake the revolver vigorously You'll hear parts tapping around in there ... usually the free floating hammer block arm. A dab or Grease in there, prevents that aggravating lose parts noise.

yes, if you use your guns frequently, your sprays and oils work well for you as does with most of us.

As for "grease". Does U.S. Military specs work for you as a legitimate, presiding authority ? Have you ever cleaned a US gun that had been packed away in RIG / Cosmolene ? It hardens over time and is not a simple task to remove. Synthetic High Heat wheel bearing grease will NOT harden. Google: COSMOLENE

These are just us gun guys sharing our experiences and opinions. It's not the Heavyweight championship of the world. Lighten up, it's not that serious a matter. These are just comment and suggestions NO one is beating you up with words, here.
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Not beating anyone up.

When did the thread turn into long term storage?

I am very aware of Cosmoline and have spent days removing it from surplus weapons. Who did it get into the "morph"?

Just a "gun guy" sharing experience" Just because it doesn't Gel with yours, perhaps you need to lighten up.?

As I said if grease lubes you than use what you want,

I still maintain that most as in 99% of guns do not require grease

Just for clarification the OP was about a KT 9mm Carbine.

Here is the manual page 22

Use a LIGHT COATING of gun OIL.

https://www.keltecweapons.com/media/catalog/category/rifles/sub2k/sub2000_series_manual.pdf
 
Rule3 said:
Not beating anyone up.

When did the thread turn into long term storage?

I am very aware of Cosmoline and have spent days removing it from surplus weapons. Who did it get into the "morph"?

Just a "gun guy" sharing experience" Just because it doesn't Gel with yours, perhaps you need to lighten up.?

As I said if grease lubes you than use what you want,

I still maintain that most as in 99% of guns do not require grease

Just for clarification the OP was about a KT 9mm Carbine.

Here is the manual page 22

Use a LIGHT COATING of gun OIL.

https://www.keltecweapons.com/media/catalog/category/rifles/sub2k/sub2000_series_manual.pdf
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I don't know ... maybe it's just me, but, when I think gun lubrication I'm thinking steel guns, not plastic guns. Of course with Kel-Tec, which I admired the technology, you are correct.

Peace ... out.
 
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