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No compromising with evil in my book. Like telling a girl she should undress for her assailant.
Perhaps it's my military background and the fact that I was a combat soldier-and very good at it-but Jeff Cooper got it right when discussing the "Combat Mindset" he said it's not the state of mind you should be in all the time but one you can quickly switch into when the need arises.
 
We don't open carry, but Icarry a handgun in a belt holster under a polo type shirt.
I also have a personal shotgun or carbine close at hand at all times. The bosses know this, and approve.

BLACKHAWKNJ said:
No compromising with evil in my book.
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Once again, I don't see using common sense as "compromising with evil."
I was never a combat soldier, but I have a little Law Enforcement experience. I am also 69
years old. I have been a follower of Col. Cooper for 45 years or more. I don't necessarily think
his "Combat Mindset," especially as it applies to an older civilian in a retail sales environment,
means one must be in "attack" mode at all times. In fact, I try to stay in Condition Yellow at all
times at the shop. In about four years, I have gone to "Orange" maybe a half-dozen times.

Again, I really don't know how to judge the tone of your post.

If faced with an armed robber, I hope my vigilance, training, and mindset will have put me in a position
to offer armed resistance if, in my judgement, such resistance is necessary.

If, in my judgement, the guy is going to take the money and run, without endangering my co-workers
or customers, I will let him do so.

If in your judgement that makes me an appeaser or compromiser, I apologize.
 
redlevel, get on NETFLIX and watch a few John Woo and Liam Niesen movies. You will see that the Beretta 92fs like you carry is the Premier weapon for dispatching low life scum by the dozens. If you don't have NETFLIX, YouTube a few shoot out scenes to quickly learn the basics!
 
Many (most?) chain "stop-and-rob" convenience stores require their employees to be unarmed, and in some states can require that they work alone. An old friend of mine worked in stop-and-robs for many years. Four times in five years she was held up at gunpoint, once having a pistol muzzle stuck in her ear.

I never worked in one of those establishments, but you can safely bet the old homestead that I would be armed if I did. I'd rather be fired than take fire from some punk.
 
redlevel said:
I posted a few days ago about murders in Warner Robins, Georgia. Two of the murders
happened in the commission of armed robberies. This is from a newspaper article from a Macon paper:

"Sunday night, Barberitos restaurant worker Parker K. Moore, 23, of Kathleen, was killed and another worker was shot in the head during an armed robbery. On Jan. 13, Chevron convenience store clerk Janak "Jack" Kumar Patel, 25, Warner Robins, was slain also during an armed robbery. Both Moore and Patel apparently had complied with the robber's demands when they were shot, Evans said."

Company policy at our shops is to comply with demands in case of armed robbery. I think it is a good policy,
and it is my intention to do so. My own thoughts have always been to comply until the robber started acting crazy,
or overly aggressive. Of course no one knows how the would react until faced with the situation. I would probably cry and soil
my under wear, but I don't think I would retreat to a back room if ordered, or lie down on the floor.

A few days before Christmas, a 15 year-old walked in a pawn shop in Columbus and murdered
an employee without saying a word. Now, these murders, seemingly done just for the sake of
killing. At the very least, my threat radar is turned up a few notches.
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Most likely just a "status" killing-for becoming a higher-ranking puke gang-banger-wannabe.
 
Walkin' Jack said:
Working in convenience store or fast food restaurant is just about as dangerous a job as there is. And it pays the least. It does seem like the robbers shoot their victims a lot more of the time than they did back in the days when I was asst. manager of a 7-11. and that was back in 1966/7 Only held up once and the robber pointed his gun at me but he was more shook up than I was and I didn't give him any cause to pull the trigger.

I called the police when he left and then I called my supervisor. He came out while the police were still there and made sure I was okay. He took the rest of my shift (but didn't dock my pay) and sent me home for the rest of the day.

I worked there for another 6 months and I was as jumpy as a frog on the freeway at rush hour every day. I finally couldn't take it any more and turned in my keys...
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When I worked at Circle K, back in oh three. I worked with Sarge Bill. Sarge had just recently got out of the Army--a few years before-was a New Yorker-scrapper. Anyway, we saw many-a drug dealer and or gang-banger punk (basically the sme thing) come through the doors.

One time, some young punk driving a car way too expensive for it to have earned the right way--by actually working. Parked to get gas at pump Nr 16--which is usually where cars go when they wanna fill tanks for a drive off. Anyway, punk comes in wearing a solid gold rope chain neckless-as thick as my thumb (I have a very thick thumb) and was hanging from neck going past its knees. It took out a thick stack of $100s, $50s, trying to find small bills to pay for the gas. Bill and I wanted to beat him to a pulp, take his ill-begotten stuff, then dump its body into the dumpster behind the store. Nobody's have missed the punk. We didn't mainly because we didn't have a way to dispose of its car. :D

Just kidding on the disposing of the body part--but we still felt like beating the punk to a pulp though--for showing off.:mad:
 
If a weapon is produced, I will assume that they are planning on killing me when I am no longer any use to them. I will therefore be waiting for my chance to end this situation in my own favor.

It's the same situation when someone breaks into my home when me and my family is home: I work under the assumption that they are here to kill me.

The stakes are to high to even consider that maybe they just want my money or property: being wrong about that means I lose my life, along with my family's lives.
 
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Just hope I get out of that kind of situation in one piece. I know I am not 10 feet tall and bulletproof anymore. Used to think I was a gunfighter,lucky I got away with it.
 
Yes, again...

Gamecock said:
Maybe in one case.

The LEO killed was responding to a domestic violence call.

I learned today from a local cop that one store clerk, though it is being reported a random killing, had dated the perp and had broken up with him. In effect, another domestic violence case.

Still no reason to kill people.
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there is almost always substance abuse involved-especially alcohol.
 
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