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Old 02-12-2019, 09:10 AM
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Somehow the bullet hits the ice ricochets and ends up spinning at the shooters feet. What do y’all think? What causes this phenomenon? Is it real?

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Old 02-12-2019, 10:34 AM
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What do y’all think? What causes this phenomenon? Is it real?
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:59 AM
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Yes it's real. Seen it myself. The bullet may have lost all its' velocity momentum but retains some of its' spin rate of the going thru the barrel.
Figuring 1000fps out of a 1 turn per 12" barrel equals 60,000 exit rpm.
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I saw it a few years ago - same video. they must be really bored!
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When we were teenagers (1973ish) after school we would go to a friend's house with surplus rifles. Nobody could afford a O3A3, so we had SMLE's, Russians, and 8mm Mausers. The object was to shoot pop and beer cans or shore of a near by half acre pond. Not a challenge for half a dozen country boys! So the challenge then became to skip the bullets off the surface to hit the cans. We found we could do it but to get the correct angle you had to hit in the middle of the pond and the bullet crossed the shore line about 3 feet high! to lower the impact height we then experimented with prone shooting at varying distances from the close shore. Eventually we had the geometry worked out and came down to plane old marksmanship! We killed a lot of cans! I don't know if the 1970's bolt action 223's with the 1:12 & 1:14 twist would do as well as the big old 30 plus caliber rifles did!

What does this have to do with bullets break dancing on ice? NOT ONE THING! But it beats watching the monsoon rain fall!

When my best friend was in the Army, he had a platoon leader problem at ANCO school. Take out the enemy machine gun position on the other side of the elevated Rail Road tracks with a LAW rocket. He fire his LAW about 45-50 yards in front of the tracks and hit the berm, moved his team back about 30 yards and fired again and it flew right over the MG. The Referees stopped the exercise and ask what the H he was doing? He explained that he was using the self destruct delay to put an airel explosion over the MG. He was the only man in his class to try it, but he was give credit for the dead MG!

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Not at all. I’ve done it myself, years ago, but now I wouldn’t try it again. I was walking my dog and, being young and dumb, it occurred to me I could open a hole in the ice for him to get a drink. Out came the Model 19. First shot did not penetrate to the water. Second one produced the spinner. Third shot made a hole. It was a borrow-pit pond. Ice was about 3-4 inches thick. It’s a dumb thing to do, even if the chances of getting hurt would seem to be small.
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:21 PM
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Oh, shooting DOWN at the ice....... now I understand
(just reading, not looking at you-tube)

Just to be on the safe side, I'd be standing on a box !!!
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Again nothing associated with shooting bullets at ice, but ricochets from a hard surface by a FMJ bullet fired at a modest incident angle, say 20 degrees, will have a very shallow reflected angle, essentially flying only a few inches above the hard surface.
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When I saw it I didn’t know what to think. Other than it looked dangerous.
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As 18 yo we would shoot holes in the frozen ice with a 12 ga. Pretty impressive 3” holes. Sometimes I wonder how we lived through it all.
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One very cold day out shooting ducks, I had a mallard fall and go through 1" of ice that was on a canal behind me.

I could see it swimming under the ice but it was going away from the hole, that it entered from.

Finally it got near the shoreline and I let it have a shot to the head area.
The concussion of the pellets made the water go down on breaking the ice and then it reversed and shot the duck up and out of the water and ice...............
to where I just had to bend over and grab it.
Just one of those weird things that take place out in the field.
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