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I will type this on my laptop and add the pics from my phone after I get this up.

I am not overly involved in fancy watches. Were my resources a little different I would be. Most of my fun money has gone to acquiring and shooting guns. What I have is modest compared to what I see here but they work for me.

My everyday watch is an elgin with two small diamonds. Wife gave it to me for an anniversary over 20 years ago. Still runs great and looks nice and still has the original band.

Then there are the two Fossil watches. Wife won a pile of money on a cruise playing bingo a few year back and bought us these matching fossils.

That's all I got for this'n...
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Of the attached pictures, the wrist watch is a "Fleet Admiral" from a NY company called Deep Blue. It's not cheap but I don't really collect wrist watches. I don't wear it much because it is hard to read with older eyes and I really need to have it serviced.

The picture of the watches in the case is my collection of antique American pocket watches. All except one is from the Elgin National Watch Company. My oldest is from 1875 and the newest is from the mid-1930s. Technically these aren't "luxury" watches but they certainly are works of art (at least to me). My grandfather's watch is in there - that's how I got started.

The picture of the inside of a pocket watch is an Elgin "Father Time" from 1902. It's not the oldest or most valuable but it really catches the eye! The geometric swirls on the movement are called "Damaskeening" because it makes the metal look like Damask steel. It's large (18 size), full-plate and has gold-inlaid engraving.

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Omega Constellation. For you Constellation guys there are 7 stars on the back.
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I appreciate a fine watch as much as the next guy, but I cannot stand to wear a watch. I wore one my entire 27-year law enforcement career but the day I retired was the last day I have ever worn a watch (2005) and I will never wear one again.
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Personally, I wear no jewelry whatsoever, not even a wedding band, but I feel naked without a watch. Always have, even in HS I usually wore a watch. Plus, nice watches are just plain amazing!
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Certainly not lux but I had them in hand. New batteries today.
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Probably the closest to luxury I have would be a Fortis GMT and a beautiful 1946 rose gold Doxa dress watch.
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Anybody else here into luxury watches? I'll start, I've always been a watch collector. I used to collect solid gold vintage watches but grew bored with them and sold them all off and started collecting stuff more up to date.

I've always liked Rolex, but Omegas, drool! I've always wanted an Omega.

I never imagined I'd finally buy a watch that cost as much as a used car, but alas, one fell in my lap (at a great price) and I couldn't resist.

Enter my (NOS condition) Omega, Speedmaster with the 1151 mvt. I finally found the NOS original Omega alligator strap on ebay for a song, at the Omega Boutique you can walk in and plop down $800 for this strap if you can't wait or you can find them online for about $275 and up with a ton of research, they're almost impossible to find. I got very lucky myself and only had to fork up $80 to someone that was letting theirs go because they never used it and no longer needed it. Now I'm on the hunt for the fold over clasp that goes with it, so the search continues. Omega wants $400 for the clasp, but I know I can find an original one online for a lot less. You have to use OEM parts to retain the value of any luxury watch.

Lets see what you're into, I know some of you have some nice watches based on the guns you post.
I have enjoyed wearing both these fine watches:

Yellow Gold Rolex Daytona - circa: 1990
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I have enjoyed wearing both these fine watches:

Yellow Gold Rolex Daytona - circa: 1990
White Gold Rolex President - circa 1996
Extremely nice, you're very fortunate to have two great watches.
The Daytona is my all time favorite Rolex, but then, I'm partial to chronographs too.
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Here's a bit of interesting info I learned from an older gentleman who used to work on my watches in my town. He passed a few years back in his late 90s and had been a jeweler and watch smith for most of his life as a career then kept it up as a hobby after he retired, which is how I met him. This is his perspective so take it for what it's worth...

Back in the last part of the 1800s and into the first part of the 1900s, Swiss watches weren't considered to be very good. The US had the leading watch industry in the world at the time which lasted into the 1950s and Swiss watches were actually looked down on until just prior to World War II.

Why? It had a lot to do with industrialization and how they were made. In the US, a typical watch factory made nearly every piece of the watch literally "under one roof". The Swiss, at that time however, had lots of individual parts made by individual craftsmen over the long winter, usually at home in small shops. In the spring everything was shipped back to a factory to be assembled into watches.

The problem was consistency, or what we know of today as Quality Control. With so many different craftsmen and so many different shops spread out all over Switzerland where communications was slow at best, when all of the parts were finally gathered it took an expert watchmaker to literally hand-fit the parts together, adjusting each as needed to make a watch. Meanwhile back in the US factories, consistency was closely monitored and communications were quick and easy so variances were much smaller and more quickly found.

This was an issue mostly noted by professional jewelers and watchsmiths of the day (like the gentleman I mentioned earlier). If your watch broke and it was Made in the USA, your jeweler would have no problem ordering a part that would fit and installing it without a lot of work. If you had a Swiss watch, however, the parts were not only much harder to get but because of the variances found in them from so many different workshops each one had to be hand-fitted and custom adjusted - which took a lot more work and time.

But since the Swiss embraced the "American Way" of making watches in the early 20th century and the US (as well as the British, French and German) watch industry literally collapsed in the 1960/70s due to cheap labor overseas, the Swiss were literally the only ones left standing now making high-quality, high-precision watches.
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For a close look at the stories behind some of the world's greatest
mechanical watches, a book called A Grand Complication is interesting. Mostly covers the rivalry between James Ward Packard (Packard Electric and Packard Motor cars) and a financier named Graves, and their years of trying to one-up each other with more complicated Patek Philippe timepieces.

See also Longitude--an interesting book on the history and development of the marine chronometer, with accounts of the skulduggery among competitors for England's longitude prize.
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Back in the last part of the 1800s and into the first part of the 1900s, Swiss watches weren't considered to be very good. The US had the leading watch industry in the world at the time which lasted into the 1950s and Swiss watches were actually looked down on until just prior to World War II.

There is a category of vintage watches now called "Swiss Fakes". From The Renaissance Watch Repair website: In an effort to earn a share of the lucrative American watch market, Swiss watch manufacturers began producing watches which superficially resembled American railroad-grade pocket watches, but which were of lower quality and sold at a much lower price. Many of these watches had names which closely resembled the names or initials of American manufacturers and watch models. These name choices were not coincidental... they were quite deliberately chosen to be deceptive, and were often engraved in lettering that copied the style of the original.
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In 1985 I paid $1000 for a brand new Rolex GMT Master and wore it nearly every day for the next 20 years. The last time I sent it in for service, the dealer contacted me and offered to buy it. I declined, he upped his offer significantly, negotiations ensued, and I finally sold it to him for $5200. According to him, one of his customers had 3 sons and he wanted to buy each one of them a GMT Master that was certified on their birthday. After a long search, mine completed the trifecta.

I took part of the money and purchased a used Rolex Explorer which I wore for a couple of years until I sold it. Since then I've worn a couple of discontinued Seiko quartz diver's watches known as the Black Knight and the White Knight. Certainly not in the luxury watch category, but they look good, keep accurate time, and servicing is both infrequent and reasonable.
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Can you believe my Rolex black dial wind up shown in #143 has never been serviced! I have been many times but never thought to have her worked on, she just keeps going.
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Here's a bit of interesting info I learned from an older gentleman who used to work on my watches in my town. He passed a few years back in his late 90s and had been a jeweler and watch smith for most of his life as a career then kept it up as a hobby after he retired, which is how I met him. This is his perspective so take it for what it's worth...

Back in the last part of the 1800s and into the first part of the 1900s, Swiss watches weren't considered to be very good. The US had the leading watch industry in the world at the time which lasted into the 1950s and Swiss watches were actually looked down on until just prior to World War II.

Why? It had a lot to do with industrialization and how they were made. In the US, a typical watch factory made nearly every piece of the watch literally "under one roof". The Swiss, at that time however, had lots of individual parts made by individual craftsmen over the long winter, usually at home in small shops. In the spring everything was shipped back to a factory to be assembled into watches.

The problem was consistency, or what we know of today as Quality Control. With so many different craftsmen and so many different shops spread out all over Switzerland where communications was slow at best, when all of the parts were finally gathered it took an expert watchmaker to literally hand-fit the parts together, adjusting each as needed to make a watch. Meanwhile back in the US factories, consistency was closely monitored and communications were quick and easy so variances were much smaller and more quickly found.

This was an issue mostly noted by professional jewelers and watchsmiths of the day (like the gentleman I mentioned earlier). If your watch broke and it was Made in the USA, your jeweler would have no problem ordering a part that would fit and installing it without a lot of work. If you had a Swiss watch, however, the parts were not only much harder to get but because of the variances found in them from so many different workshops each one had to be hand-fitted and custom adjusted - which took a lot more work and time.

But since the Swiss embraced the "American Way" of making watches in the early 20th century and the US (as well as the British, French and German) watch industry literally collapsed in the 1960/70s due to cheap labor overseas, the Swiss were literally the only ones left standing now making high-quality, high-precision watches.
Must be why the Hamilton was considered the "Patek of the US" back in the day.
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Omega's are my favorite of all watches for some reason, and that Seamaster is right at the top. Would love to have one some day. That is such a beautiful and graceful watch.
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Is that an "Air King?"
If/when I were to get a Rolex it'd have to be along that line, simple, clean and not "in your face" elegance. Love it and for me all stainless is the only way to go.
EDIT: I see it's an Explorer now, still super clean like the Air King.
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Omega's are my favorite of all watches for some reason, and that Seamaster is right at the top. Would love to have one some day. That is such a beautiful and graceful watch.

This chrono is soooo heavy though. A tank on the wrist.
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03hemi--

Thanks. I started with an Omega Seamaster I bought in St. Thomas, the "Great White" model, which I gave to my son, who is USAF. Later, I was given a Ball Engineer HYdrocarbon GMT by a friend, and it spawned my interest in Ball watches.

Recently, I renewed my interest in Omegas, and found the Seamaster 300M at a local jeweler and traded/bought it. I was initially reluctant to buy it because it was a quartz model (most of my watches are mechanical) but I learned to love the simplicity of not having to wind it!

The two Breitlings (Aerospace and B1) are quartz as well. I find the Aerospace hellishly difficult to set the time on, though. Breitling directions are poor at best.

The Hamilton Polaris was a gift from my parents when I graduated high school in 1964, and is so engraved on the case back. It's 14K gold.

The Ball WorldTimer is a favorite of mine, and it is an early model which spells Dhaka incorrectly, corrected quickly on later watches.

I enjoy all of them--I always need to buy extra-long straps/bracelets as my wrists are large!

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Must be why the Hamilton was considered the "Patek of the US" back in the day.
Hamilton made fewer watches overall (which still numbered in the millions) but produced a higher percentage of high-grade watches. I collect Elgin watches, which dominated the broad, middle-ground of the watch market and produced around 65 million watches in the century that they were in business. If you have the right Hamilton today it can be considered a real treasure!

By the way - the finest of the "high-grade" watches were not railroad watches; they were the ships watches used for navigation.

Many American manufacturers got very close to producing a watch made from 100% US-made parts, but it was usually the spring steel in either (or both) the hair spring and mainspring that was sourced from Switzerland because of the quality of the steel. I do believe that Hamilton was the only manufacturer that actually produced a pocket watch that was 100% American-made, although I'm not familiar with ALL of the US manufacturers.
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I have a good number of mid-level automatic watches that I rotate through, but I don’t really have any that I consider “luxury” watches. I’d love to have a Rolex stainless/gold Submariner or an IWC Double Chronograph, but I wouldn’t give up most of my collection to own one. That’s probably penny wise and pound foolish in the long run.

My most expensive watch is a Ball Engineer Hydrocarbon Deepquest. It’s a highly specialized tool watch that has a one piece titanium case, a titanium bracelet, It’s COSC certified, shock resistant to over 7000 G’s, anti-magnetic, water resistant to 3000 meters and has tritium hands and markers. The deepest it goes is the occasional dip in the lake, but I appreciate the workmanship and construction.

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Another of my favorites is an original Bulova Astronaut. It still has its original dual coil tuning fork movement that hums right along! There’s quite a bit of history to these electronic watches.

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Today’s wrist check is a Victorinox Airboss Mach 7. These are well made, well regulated, have excellent lume and reasonably priced. They Have a 45mm case, so you need a pretty big wrist to get away with it.

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Just checking the state of mine, I've discovered I'm missing 1 watch!
Pic #2, empty spot should be a white dialed Gerlach, twin to the black dial on the left.
I can't find it anywhere!
Oops, pic 3 is a dup from yesterday.
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I love going through this thread, so many great watches and the stories behind them are the best.
I'd like to get a Ball one day, but didn't know until recently that "on the Ball" was taken from that watch referring to being on time.
Watches, guns and cars seem to be a common trait amongst us? lol
Keep em' coming boys!
Oh yeah, after seeing some of y'alls storage cases I decided it was time to get me one. I order one that will hold all my extra bracelets, straps and watch parts in a lower drawer.
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With the original 007 watch and of course his PPK.
Ever wondered why Omega can't just make a commemorative Bond watch like that instead plastering 007 or Bond crud all over it, to me it just cheapens a very high end watch? Put the "Bond" on the box/papers and maybe add a special Bond/007 band and leave the watch alone. I think they'd sell more that way too.
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There is an old tale involving Henry Ford and Swiss watchmakers that I do not believe is true, but I'll pass it on here just for fun:

In the early 1900s, Henry Ford sent a watchmaker in Switzerland a 1/64" precision drill bit as a show of American precision manufacturing. The Swiss replied with a nice letter complimenting Mr. Ford on such an excellent product, and returned the bit to him with a hole drilled through it!

Now that's usually where the tale ends, but allegedly Mr. Ford then contacted the Swiss again and stated "If you like the drill bit enough, we can get you a million by next Tuesday!"
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My watch box came in and I must say I'm very impressed with the quality of it!
The obligatory shot, and yes, that is an Invicta you see in there . This is one of the old Invictas, Swiss made with the Rhonda, Startech mvt. I wear it to any "banger" events. lol
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With the original 007 watch and of course his PPK.
Ever wondered why Omega can't just make a commemorative Bond watch like that instead plastering 007 or Bond crud all over it, to me it just cheapens a very high end watch? Put the "Bond" on the box/papers and maybe add a special Bond/007 band and leave the watch alone. I think they'd sell more that way too.
Here’s my 1999 Omega Seamaster, no Bond stuff on it, the box or papers. But it looks good with my PPK....

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Long story. My father was a letter carrier in Manhattan, 85th and Park Ave during the 70’s to 90’s. He finds a Submariner laying in the street one day, just the body of the watch, no band or bezel even.
The Chrystal was scratched and yellowed. The watch did not move at all. He gives me the watch in early 2000, and I sat on it for about 13 years.
One day I decide to see if it can be repaired and at what cost. One of my wife’s co workers also owned a jewelry store, and they offered to take it in and see what they could do.
I was told it would be near impossible to source the parts and was offered $850 for the watch. I declined, to think it over.

A couple weeks later I go to Rolex in Manhattan to see what they could do for me. First class operation they have there.
First they checked to see if it were on their stolen watch list, it wasn’t, or they would confiscate it.
They then took it to one of their watch repairmen and he came out 15 minutes later.
Parts would be hard to source, the watch was from the mid60’s, and it would not be original. With that, $3700 to repair and look new. I said thanks and walked out.

Fast forward a couple more months and cruising the net I see Bob’s Watches in CA buys watches. OK, I’m leery but what the heck it’s just an email.
A couple hours later I get a request for pics. Next day I get an offer of $5-10,000 depending on an inspection by them. Still leery, considering what I was offered previously, I accept their request to look it over.
They send a FedEx prepaid box for me to,ship the watch to them. A couple days later I get a phone call with an offer of $7,500.
They would have given me more except something about the condition of the dials, they apparently were very rare and very hard to source.
I honestly couldn’t believe they would give me that kind of money for a watch missing so many critical parts.
Anyways, I took the money and called it a day. The most expensive watch I now own is probably that Hamilton.
I have pics of the Rolex somewhere on my computer.

Found these pics buried on my computer. I wonder what they sold this watch for, if one would call it that, once it was restored.
No band, no bezel.




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Here’s a 1960s Sub at Bob’s right now .... (hope this is ok to post...not an auction)

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I was in North Africa in the mid 1960s, and at the NX (Naval Exchange) they had a submariner for sale for, if I remember, less than $200. I really wanted it, but settled for an auto wind Benrus for about half the price. I still have the Benrus, but have lost the strap, and the winding stem is missing, but it still runs if you shake it!! Wish I would have gone for the Rolex instead....bet it would be worth a bunch more even if it was in the same condition!!

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You know I like the Heuer watches. Have always like the Autavia models, but the old ones are hard to find in good condition. Tag Heuer have been producing modern renditions of them in limited series. I had never seen one for sale. Until last month.

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Edit. So now I have three Heuer watches. Luckily on the reproductions of their classic watches they leave "Tag" out.

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I am really rough on watches. I really LIKE luxury watches, but I can't use one and never could afford one. Besides, I haven't worn a wristwatch in years. I definitely prefer analog over digital.

If I wore a watch it would be a pocket watch. I'm just an old timey person.
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Had wanted a really fine watch for quite some time with my eye on a specific one.

Was in Myrtle Beach for January and had to head to Charleston , SC, when my Rangie showed a ‘check engine’ light. Figured that was going to be a pricey fix so when I learned it was covered by the warranty I was thrilled. While waiting for the service to be finished was scrolling through a Charleston app and saw there was a jewelry store near a restaurant I wanted to visit; decided to stop by.

Lo and behold, just inside the door was a Rolex display with the EXACT watch I wanted. Looked at it, tried it on, and inquired if they ‘dealt’ on Rolexes. No, it was explained to me Rolex frowned upon it with potential for ramifications if a dealer was caught doing so. Had a rather long discussion with the very knowledgeable employee who turned out to be a principal in the business. Learned much about watches in general; Rolex brand, in particular. Told him I would consider it and get back to him before I left South Carolina.

Went to lunch, had a few beers, and pondered the issue at hand.
Watch was a bit more expensive than I thought it would be.

But...the beers ‘convinced’ me to do it. Called the jeweler and told him I would be back and have it ready to go. Here it is!
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Have a 1996 vintage Seadweller that I wear EVERYDAY doing EVERYTHING. It was made to be worn and I really don't consider it a Luxury item per se-just a good sound watch in a sturdy case. It has got a 27 year patina on it. I love those old Rolex and other watches that have tat good used patina on them-much like old blue steel revolvers
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That is a good start.

Since this post I have added many (30+?). Still getting to those that have interest. Best to you and yours; wherever this finds you.
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Since this post I have added many (30+?). Still getting to those that have interest. Best to you and yours; wherever this finds you.
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When I bought the Heuer I got a *1000.00 voucher valid for 3 months. If I walked away I just knew I would loose it. So, I just looked around and also brought this home, only had to put another *100.00.

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It's German made . Inspired on the flight watches from the 30s. The brand used to be called Junkers 52(the trimotor), but now it's called Iron Annie, the nickname of the Ju 52 registered D-AQUI that is presently in the USA.

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Have a 1996 vintage Seadweller that I wear EVERYDAY doing EVERYTHING. It was made to be worn and I really don't consider it a Luxury item per se-just a good sound watch in a sturdy case. It has got a 27 year patina on it. I love those old Rolex and other watches that have tat good used patina on them-much like old blue steel revolvers
The Sea Dweller is EXTREMELY thick. How do you manage that as a daily wear? I'll bet you bang it...A LOT
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I love you guys. A lot of nice pieces. I have a Seiko dive Kinetic but would really like to get Grand Seiko Spring Drive. That smooth second hand is mesmerizing.
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Sorry, I don't have a "luxury" anything. The best I can do is my old 1961 Omega Seamaster 550 caliber Automatic with a "sunburned" dial.

Check out that expensive Speidel (corrected) "Twist-O-Flex" band too. No expense was spared.


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...Twist-O-Flex bands were a Speidel product. Have one around here somewhere.

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