Explain title theft

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I’ve been seeing ads that this has become more and more common. Someone use your home for collateral on a lone and somehow takes ownership. How is that possible? How would it stand up in court?
Nope never stayed at Holiday Inn Express so I need splainin.
 
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It would be very hard to do but the rewards can be high for the crooks and a lot of old people are fairly trusting to people requesting information so they are usually the thief's main target.
 
I don't know about other states, but Maryland has on-line access to the land records. From the comfort of your living room, you can see if anyone has forged and recorded a deed purporting to transfer the title to your real property, which is the start of home title theft. If something like this happens, run, don't walk to an attorney who is knowledgeable about land titles and can take the steps to prevent further damage.
 
Who ends up holding the bag ? I would think it would be the purchaser of the property or the new lien holder, since it was a fraudulent transaction. Maybe one of the many attorney members will weigh in here. I hear the ads and it sounds like an insurance scam to me on the part of the protection they are trying to sell. They act like if someone steals the title to your house and sells it you lose your house. That doesn't sound right. If you purchase a stolen car and the original owner comes forward they still own it. The buyer is the one that is taking the loss. Am I off base here ? Sounds like a fear tactic to sell more ID theft insurance / prevention products.
 
The gag here for a while was renting empty houses that didn't belong to you. The vast numbers of foreclosed homes here meant that sometimes it was months before the duped renter was discovered.
 
Who ends up holding the bag ? I would think it would be the purchaser of the property or the new lien holder, since it was a fraudulent transaction. Maybe one of the many attorney members will weigh in here. I hear the ads and it sounds like an insurance scam to me on the part of the protection they are trying to sell. They act like if someone steals the title to your house and sells it you lose your house. That doesn't sound right. If you purchase a stolen car and the original owner comes forward they still own it. The buyer is the one that is taking the loss. Am I off base here ? Sounds like a fear tactic to sell more ID theft insurance / prevention products.

That’s what I was thinking. Online search says it’s rare. If so, this is an answer in search of a problem.
 
One ounce of prevention is to check if your county displays recorded deeds and mortgages online. Search for your property or name and see what the recent activity is. If there is something you do not recognize or it looks fishy, hire a pro to spend an hour figuring out what’s up.
 
If you don't have a mortgage with the bank having a lean on your property, this is easier to have happen than you might think. It is something that is happening out there. Title Shield works, but if you have a mortgage chances are it will not happen. It is amazing how easy it can be to get to view your deed in most states.

Bob
 
If you don't have a mortgage with the bank having a lean on your property, this is easier to have happen than you might think. It is something that is happening out there. Title Shield works, but if you have a mortgage chances are it will not happen. It is amazing how easy it can be to get to view your deed in most states.

Bob

I know what you are saying, most areas are going on-line. I am wondering what difference being able to view on-line makes ?
 
When a bank lends a stranger money against the title to your house and says that it is your fault.

Again, I don’t see how this can be allowed to happen. If the bank doesn’t do their due diligence and loans money to a fraud how can the victim be left holding the bag and basically told tough ****!
 
I just check my credit scores on line with the bank's I do business with.
They give me detailed info such as recent searches, inquiries, etc.
I feel very secure doing just that.
 
Again, I don’t see how this can be allowed to happen. If the bank doesn’t do their due diligence and loans money to a fraud how can the victim be left holding the bag and basically told tough ****!
In the end they can't. You're the victim.
But just like any other form of identity theft, cleaning it up and proving that someone else committed the fraud can be a royal pain. That is what you are buying insurance against - just like LifeLock etc.
 
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A variation on identity theft. Takes a little bit of research (property owners names, preferably SSN and other data), then apply for an easy refinance mortgage or second mortgage, close the deal and disappear. Even easier now that you can do a mortgage loan completely on-line, have the cash sent by bank transfer. Much easier for an unscrupulous family member with access to the owner's records and information, but a lot of families have one or more of those slime-balls these days.

I remember back in the troubled financial times of the late 1970's, lots of VA and FHA repo houses. Big signs in front offering the property for sale, kind of a cute warning that the FBI investigated any crime on the property (like they had nothing else to do). Scammers would pose as real estate agents, have a locksmith re-key the locks, take down all the signs, offer the houses for rent. Victim would pony up the first month's rent and security deposit, move in, have the utilities turned on, then within a few weeks would find themselves back on the street while the scammer spent their money somewhere else.

If there is a way to reach into your pocket someone is working on getting it done, every day and everywhere.
 
I just check my credit scores on line with the bank's I do business with.
They give me detailed info such as recent searches, inquiries, etc.
I feel very secure doing just that.

The credit bureaus also allow you to lock or freeze your credit reports to block unwanted inquiries. I am blessed not to have found it necessary to apply for any credit the past several years so I did that. I have also placed all my major assets, property, automobile, bank accounts and anything of significant value into a revocable living trust on the advice of my estate planning attorney. It should avoid probate and adds another level of security I am told. My properties are registered as TOD, transfer on death, to my children to make it as easy as possible when I am gone.

I would advise everyone to consult an estate planning attorney if possible. Having gone through two probates with family members it is not pleasant.
 
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I know what you are saying, most areas are going on-line. I am wondering what difference being able to view on-line makes ?

It would work by telling you that somebody forged your signature on a deed that you didn't know about, recorded the fake deed and then the grantee on the fake deed took out a mortgage. The mortgage probably would not show up on your credit report because it wasn't taken out in your name.
 
Who ends up holding the bag ? I would think it would be the purchaser of the property or the new lien holder, since it was a fraudulent transaction. Maybe one of the many attorney members will weigh in here. I hear the ads and it sounds like an insurance scam to me on the part of the protection they are trying to sell. They act like if someone steals the title to your house and sells it you lose your house. That doesn't sound right. If you purchase a stolen car and the original owner comes forward they still own it. The buyer is the one that is taking the loss. Am I off base here ? Sounds like a fear tactic to sell more ID theft insurance / prevention products.

The thief/fake purchaser would probably be the one taking out the mortgage, not an innocent purchaser. The lender would probably end up making a claim under its lender's title insurance policy, so the title insurance company would be on the hook to the lender. After absconding with the loan proceeds, the thief probably would not be filing any claim under an owner's title insurance policy
 
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