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Ματθιας;141042989 said:
The "combat patch" is now called "Shoulder Sleeve Insignia Military Operations in Hostile Conditions".

Never served in the military, but my first thought was

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Ματθιας;141042989 said:
Army Rolls Out Army Green Uniform Wear Guidelines, Renames Combat Patch

27 Jan 2021
Military.com | By Matthew Cox



The "combat patch" is now called "Shoulder Sleeve Insignia Military Operations in Hostile Conditions".

Sounds like Army standard operating procedure. Next they will start calling a shovel an "entrenching tool."
 
Is there a patch or decoration for those who engage armed enemy forces in combat.
 
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What is the patch or decoration for those who engage armed enemy forces in combat.

For the Army -

Combat Infantry Badge
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Combat Action Badge

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Combat Medical Badge

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Notice that they all have oak leaves. Also, there are requirements that have to be met before someone is qualified to wear the badge.
 
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I’m having a hard time working up any righteous indignation over this. The new uniforms look good. Who cares what they call the patch, or if they make it easier for female soldiers to feed their babies?

Of course I was in the Air Force and we looked like fancy bus drivers.
 
Typical military, concentrating on eyewash and dazzle to cover serious problems and moral deficiencies. It seems that every conflict has to have its own look so you can tell at a glance what time period it is in. The adoption of the forest green uniform in the 1950s covered up the adoption of the idiotic "up or out" promotion policy for officers which was at the root of so many problems in Vietnam and the confusion and disorganization of the Pentomic Division which was a major fiasco.
 
Ματθιας;141043356 said:
For the Army -

Combat Infantry Badge
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Combat Action Badge

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Combat Medical Badge

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Notice that they all have oak leaves. Also, there are requirements that have to be met before someone is qualified to wear the badge.

During my Army time (1968-1972) those of us serving in infantry units were a little arrogant about the CIB (Combat Infantryman Badge). Those who held the CIB usually wore only that, not the usual rack of ribbons denoting various medals. The general consensus was that the CIB says it all, only awarded to those who had actually engaged in ground combat with enemy forces. Commanders occasionally included orders for certain events requiring "all awards and decorations", otherwise most of us never displayed our medals or ribbons.

The CMB (Combat Medic Badge) was highly respected. Again, only one way to get it and that was to go out in the bush with the bad guys and get the job done under hostile fire. The medic was the guy everyone took care of in the field. Medics were not required to carry weapons, but many chose to do so, and more than one earned serious combat decorations (just being there and doing their jobs was more than enough to earn all the respect in the world).

The CAB (Combat Action Badge) came along much later (Desert Storm era, IIRC). Awarded to soldiers of any specialty who actually served in combat engagements. Seems appropriate to me, lots of support troops find themselves in the middle of a fight.

The Army is an enormous entity. The generally accepted premise was that for every soldier "at the sharp end of the stick" (combat arms such as infantry, armor, artillery, etc) there were a dozen more soldiers in support roles (supply, transportation, administration, cooks, maintenance, etc).

Lots of people look at the CIB and see the old musket, assume it to be a marksmanship award. To infantrymen the CIB says "been there, done that". All the rest is just colorful decoration.

I only knew one guy with a 3-star CIB (4th award), veteran of WW2, Korea, Dominican Republic, and Vietnam. Old master sergeant when I knew him, also held the Distinguished Service Medal (one short step below the Medal of Honor), Silver Star, Bronze Star and just about every campaign and service medal ever thought of during his long career. He was an old single guy, owned a small hotel in Taipei, Taiwan and intended to retire there. I hope he has done well because he earned every bit of his retirement, 30 years and 4 wars.
 
That green doesn't look like my father's & grandfather's WWII uniform.
They were brown - that bunch in the pic is green. And they look awfully pudgy and puny for cannon cockers. All the ones I knew were were mostly pretty brawny guys.

The new pinks & greens are modeled after the WW2 Officers’ uniform (except for the black tie, that was replaced with a khaki tie near the beginning of the war). Enlisted/NCO’s wore a different uniform.

I really can’t see why the Army went away from the dress greens (& khakis/TW’s for that matter). It’s what the Army Recruiters wore when I was a kid growing up in small town Texas, I was honored to wear the same uniform when I served, and my daughters wore it too (with green shirt instead of the tan poplin shirt we wore). I wish they’d spend the money on stuff that matters (we wore OD Green fatigues about 95% of the time, but not off post).
 
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