This past school shooting in Texas the shooter was on social media saying he was going to kill his grandmother, other posts refer to raping women, torturing animals etc. Why isn't the name of the social media site/sites made public so that parents can ban their children from viewing it. When the site/sites are exposed and people leave it, the advertisers will also leave. We have a right to now what site/sites they are. Embarass them.
Next, where did he get the money for 2 AR-15's, 800 rds of ammo and body armour.
Some of these computer games add to the problem.
Let's not blame 911 operators, local police etc. we were not there to see what was actually going on-no second guessing.
Let's begin to get a grip on reality ,it's not guns!!
That's all for now
Thanks for letting me rant

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Too Soon Old, Too Late Schmart

The perp did not have body armor.

He had the vest but not the ballistic plates.

But why let the truth get in the way if helps forward your agenda?

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BTDT, Got The T-Shirt

The platform was outed several days ago. The method was private messages, which were not outed until way after the shooting occurred, the recipient notified police, and the investigation continued . . .

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Wisdom comes thru fear . . .

Why don't we hear about people like the good lady that shot and killed the bad guy with an AR-15 with her lawfully carried concealed firearm when he was about to shoot up a party because he was asked to stop speeding? I wanna hear those stories!

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Dave Ramsey Cultist

This ^^^^^ is what I want to know. Why do we have to view YouTube to get posts of "good guy" stories that don't appear on national news? Just here in Pittsburgh there's a very common denominator of the people committing acts of gun violence (in the city) that is never talked about. An 18 month old baby was just killed "by accident."
I'm sure if we all had to turn in our guns, the bad guys would, too.

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Waiting For The Sun.

Here is the story:

Police: Woman with pistol killed man who shot at crowd of people in Charleston | WCHS

Since murder is already forbidden by law, we have to assume these cretins who performs these acts probably wouldn't be deterred by a new gun law. I'm not an investigator, but this fact does give me pause as to the true reason for the current clamor for gun control. How about you?

I have noticed that bad news is "news", but good news is a "niche".

There are only two sections of the news that tell both the good and the bad sides of stories - Sports and Weather. The problem is, for your typical "news" channel/publication/online site, Sports and Weather don't drive readership or viewership, but bad news (especially VERY bad news) is a guaranteed draw.

That's just the way we are built. Unfortunately.

Yeah, right, absolutely.

I was kicked of this Forum after the 'Sandy Hook Massacrer" when I said the legal age to own a firearm should be 21! I was called a NRA Basher. Ive been a member of the NRA my whole life.
18 year old kids Should Not be able to buy Assault Weapons , ammo and high cap mags when they cant even buy cigarettes and beer . Yes, common sense dictates there should be some sort of new gun regulations. Disillusioned kids with money shouldn't be able to buy guns. Yes, My son Son bought a Ruger AR556 when he turned 18; and we both thought it was B.S that I still had to get him a pack of Camel's ! The difference between my kid and some Cuckoo is; he was raised shooting. The first thing I made him do is read the book. He had to understand how to disassemble and clean and understand the rifle. Then we went to the range. Then I made him Qualify. Then I made him clean. Then I made him reload his ammo . We are a NRA Family. We are Safe . We are the ones you want on your side.
Yes ,we should all support normal common sense regulations. Don't sell Assault weapons to kids! My Kids Agree.
Lets work together and make our rights to the 2nd Amendment safe. If unscrupulous people sell guns and ammo to kids and they shoot a school full of kids ; that's OUR time as NRA members to not let that happen ever again.
18years old; cant buy beer, cant buy cigarettes, cant buy guns, PERIOD!
The Demoncrates want these mass shooting 's to happen. Thats the only way they can upset our 2nd Amendment. We as NRA supporters need to beat them to the punch and come up with a way to keep Assault weapons out of the hands of kids .
Luke Miskol
NRA For Life

In my fantasy world, I wish both sides of this debate would stop bashing each other. It's unbelievably counterproductive. I will never understand why people think that vitriol and innuendo are the way to persuade others to see your point of view. No law ever got passed, or prevented from passing, with the two sides trading insults and accusations.

I wish our opponents would stop trying to argue that the 2nd Amendment doesn't mean what it clearly says...do they not realize that they're feeding the very paranoia they accuse us of having? If they would concede that we have the right to own firearms, and stop arguing otherwise, they would buy a lot of good will.

I wish they would stop treating us as if we are their social, cultural, and legal inferiors. It's very elitist, really offends and turns us off, and only hardens our resistance to cooperating with them.

I wish they would at least try to understand what they're talking about when it comes to guns. That silly comment the other day about a 9mm blowing someone's lung out of his body is just the tip of the iceberg. Millions of Americans want "assault weapons" banned, but can't describe what they are or how they work. Millions more have no idea what's involved in buying a gun legally; they simply parrot the claim that we need tougher gun laws. It's ridiculous to try to discuss public policy in the face of such ignorance.

For our part, I wish the NRA and other gun-rights organizations, and American gun owners in general, would stop being a reactionary force, and try instead to come up with affirmative ways to keep nuts from getting access to firearms. I'm tired of us being the bad guys, the ones who are always accused of not caring about violence in our society.

Bashing people of good faith who mean us no harm, but who are deeply concerned about this recent increase in public mass-shooting incidents, just makes us look unreasonable and irresponsible. Yeah, there are gun-grabbers out there, people who'd like to confiscate everything that goes bang, but they're a minority, and we shouldn't act like every proposed new gun law is an attempt to disarm the entire country.

"Oh well, stuff happens!"...is not a proper way for us to respond when a sicko murders 19 children and 2 teachers. We can do a lot better than that...

I wish gun rights supporters would stop referring to Modern Sporting Rifles as Assault Weapons. Why help the anti gun group?

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Freedom is never free!!
SWCA #3437

You were called an NRA basher because that was exactly what you were doing. The NRA is not responsible for the mental health of people, nor are they responsible for the decay in the moral fiber of our country. Asking the NRA to bow to the pressures of those who see using legislation as a means of fixing these two issues is in fact going against what the NRA stands for as well as supporting those who wish to destroy that institution and bring draconian gun laws to our country.

This thread is about social media sites, NOT THE NRA. Stay on topic.

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So many S&W's, so few funds!!

We could simply make shooting people illegal. How about we just tell the gun grabbers to go pee up a rope? "Shall not be infringed" isn't a difficult concept to grasp.

The depth of feeling that you have for the 2nd Amendment is likely the same as their feelings towards the 1st.

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On the Oak Savannah

This is the surest way I can think of to have our heads handed to us legislatively.

Because it does not mesh with the narrative being spewed by a left leaning media.

I saw it on TV, cited to debunk the assertion that “you can’t take on a rifle with a pistol”.

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Not in jail.

If the social media czars put the same effort into writing algorithms that search for dangerous traits as they do searching for political comments to hide or delete, they might actually accomplish some good.

I'm confused.

Your saying an 18 year old shouldn't be allowed to by a certain weapon, then you say your son bought one.

Then you say again they shouldn't be allowed to buy them and your son agrees, even thou he did in fact buy one.

Pot, Kettle, Black?

AR = assault rifle ......... right?

I read it on the internet so it must be true!!!!!!

Here's a handy-dandy explanation of what quotation marks mean when you're not quoting somebody... Quotation Marks Around a Single Word | Grammarly.

Social media also has their share of friendlies.

I just found these posted on social platform sites.

We can use them, too.

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Music/Sports/Beer fan

So be it then. I’m sick of the threats. Make me a criminal already.

We both thought it stupid he could by an assault weapon and not a pack of cigarettes, I also said that Im a Life Member of the NRA. And I made him completely read the owners manual, and understand how to disassemble and clean, Then we went out and qualified with said weapon. Then disassemble and clean, then reload all the ammo that was shot. Were Responsible Gun owners. And, by the way; said gun is locked safely in my Gun Safe. My son is now 22 and still prefers that it is in the Safe until he wants to go shooting!

You are sadly mistaken sir.

“They” use these mass shooting events to further their agenda which is to eliminate all guns. They have already demonstrated the fact that they have little regard for our rights and the constitution. So if they pass this law what makes you think they will stop there?

There are already laws on the books to deal with bad actors. We don’t need more. And by the way, did you check to see what they are going to include with this so called “common sense” law? You know how they are. They will try to sneak other laws into the bill while we have our backs turned. Just like they did with Covid relief bills.

One of them is red flag laws which further enable gun haters to come after us. And the so called “gun show loop hole”. Are you to really going to believe someone that claims a 9MM bullet will tear your lung out of your body?

Don’t allow yourself to be turned by their evil rhetoric. You give an inch and they will take a mile. They are hoping to divide and conquer us. But they can only do so if we become weak and allow them to.

I am a responsible gun owner and law abiding citizen. I should not be penalized by the actions of others.

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True, however it is extremely difficult to avoid as certain social media platforms have conditioned people who would otherwise be moderates into entrenched positions.

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it just needs more voltage

I know you're joking but just in case other may not know, the AR in AR-15 is there for "Armalite Rifle" the original manufacturer of the Modern Sporting Rifle. (I love it Bam-Bam lol)

Now that is on the internet so it must be true!

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Freedom is never free!!
SWCA #3437

Please define what an "assault weapon" is.

All well and good that you are a responsible gun owner and so is your kid. BUT you still say 18 year olds shouldn't be ALLOWED to buy one - while in the next breath saying YOU allowed YOUR 18 year old to buy one. Sorry, but no matter how you slice, dice, or parse it that comes across as hypocrisy.
And FWIW 18 year olds can buy smokes in every state I've ever been in. Not beer, but certainly tobacco. What state do you live in anyway?

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Send lawyers, guns & money...

I purposely read the entire story (several full pages of print.) about the latest shootings in the New York Times paper. They delve into all aspects of the shooters. They went back into the childhood of the shooter and were making all kinds of physiological assessments but there was not one word about the amount of time the shooters spent playing "shoot-um games". Kids spend hundreds of hours playing those killing games and become to think what happens in the games are real. Why isn't there an effort to ban shooting games to anyone under 21 years of age?

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Bill

Well, I think the short answer to your question is that many of the same people who attack the 2nd Amendment relentlessly are champions of the 1st Amendment, and would never support the government censoring any sort of speech or expression. It's hypocritical as all get-out...

In some of the other threads on here about this, some of us have made the point that something in our society has definitely changed in recent years. What causes an 18 year old to go to a grocery store or a school and kill people? And why are so many of these young sickos attracted to AR-platform rifles? Is it video games? The constant blathering of news people and politicians about the AR? I don't know, but it's very strange...

The term "assault weapon" is like "gun violence." Terms made up by the anti gun people to vilify something they don't like/want banned. Assigning a pejorative label makes things easier to hate and rail against. It gives their followers a term to spew along with their emotion to counter logical discussion.

Gun control is just a step along the way to their "utopia."

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Bill

"AR" has got to be one of the most unintended "PR" misdirection's ever!!!!!

The family of Eugene Stoner
was quoted as saying,

"Our father, Eugne Stoner,
designed the AR-15 and
subsequent M-16 as a
military weapon to give
our soldiers an advantage
over the AK-47."

His family added he never
expected the rifle to be
a civilian firearm. The family
said that really came when patents
ran out.

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Ubi Est Mea

Isn't that what the people will be using it for if it came down to it?
The 2nd wasn't written for hunting.

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Dave Ramsey Cultist

So it's not really a "modern
sporting rifle" then? That's
only the advertising in some
cases so anti-gunners won't
keep labeling it an "assault rifle"
or a weapon of war?

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Ubi Est Mea

Define what "Modern Sporting rifle" is
I always thought that term was stupid, along with "America's Rifle"
Why don't we just call it what it basically is-a semi automatic rifle???? As opposed to a bolt action, a lever action or a single shot????
Everyone has to have "their" catch phrases. To me an assult weapon is a full auto BAR, An M2 "Ma DUce" or a M134 Minigun-
Sorry but I am fed up with the invective used on both sides!

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Those folks, who bash the second amendment and are "champions of the first amendment": Are not really first amendment champions, they believe they should be able to print, say, broadcast anything they want. But they are Woke, and believe in silencing the uwoke. They support their causes and boycott unacceptable opinions

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Kind regards, Heinz

And that is exactly one of the
points. Any legislation regarding
semi-automatic rifles or their
magazine capacity will not discuss
"assault rifles." It will be specific
to semi-auto rifles.

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Ubi Est Mea

I think the short answer to your question is that the rest of the world also plays the same games yet doesn't have the number of mass shootings that we do in the US. It's a combination of a lot of things but just like firearms regulations, changing only one thing won't suddenly cure all our ills.

If he killer had drive an SUV onto the school playground and killed the same number of people, would we be having these discussions?????

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Bill

A question to answer this sort
of question: Would the police
have stood back for nearly an
hour as children died of wounds
in fear the killer would run the LEOs
down as well?

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Ubi Est Mea

Canada's Incoherent Gun Ban Includes Bolt Action Rifles.

Below is a cut and paste from a much larger article. Here is the link to see the whole article:
Canada's 'Incoherent' Gun Ban Includes Bolt-Action Rifles, Excludes Some Semi-Automatics

“Today we are closing the market for military-grade assault weapons in Canada. We are banning 1,500 models and variants of these firearms by way of regulations." “Meanwhile, the list bans a number of bolt-action hunting rifles used for large game."

“The ban, announced late last week, does not include the Chinese-made Norinco Type 97, for example, a semi-automatic version of the standard-issued rifles used by the People’s Liberation Army of China. Nor does it include the Russian-designed SKS rifle, the precursor to the popular AK-47; the Israeli-made Tavor .223, a semi-automatic rifle developed with the aid of the Israeli Defense Force, or the Canadian-made WK180-C, which gun publication CalibreMag said ‘functions much like an AR-15,’some Chinese and Russian

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Who are? "They"

IMO "Assault Weapon", "Military Style" and "Military Grade" amongst others are made up terms used to conflate those rifles with actual military "Assault Rifles" and so they must then be regulated the same as the military rifles.

Semi-Automatic only rifles are not the battle rifle for any military, Ergo, they are not "military" anything.

Post this often on social media!

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Chris S.
Fort Lauderdale, FL

Are you saying that restricting the gun rights of those who don't do the shootings won't stop the shootings?

Whoa.

/S

In all seriousness, I post the above on every social media site that I can in response to the topic.

Maybe we all should consider some version of that and do the same?

Keep it civil and they have no rational argument in return, not that any minds are changed but it is now published and a POV for others to read and consider.

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Chris S.
Fort Lauderdale, FL

Better still ...Rifle, Carbine, Pistol, Shotgun.
Terms such as semi auto can be latched onto as well.
Stay boring my friend

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it just needs more voltage

Fully semi-automatic?

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Chris S.
Fort Lauderdale, FL