A deal was posted on the Oklahoma Shooter's Association forum that Bud's had Fiocchi slugs on sale. About a dozen or so members, including myself, ordered. Everyone that ordered received 1/8 of the total number of rounds ordered, classic bait and switch tactic. Bud's said there was a mistake, and the online round count was incorrect. I was charged for 34.6 lbs shipping based on the number I ordered. My Fedex package weighed less than 5 lbs. After calling Bud's, all anyone got was slightly more than a brush off. They will take the items back and pay postage after a call to the company and 2 emails. Some that ordered live miles from the nearest UPS/Fedex drop as they won't pick up residential, and Fedex/UPS stores will not accept ammo for shipping. It must go to a main office/terinal. Everyone returning will be out time and money (especially with gas being so high) with not even an apology but a statement of "I understand your upset" response.

In the future Budsgunshop.com will carry the phrase "caveat emptor". I will not do business with them again.

Makes you wonder if they would treat Hickok45 the same way? He is always plugging them as a sponsor on YT.

Great. I was one of them that put in a big order. Guess I will see what I get in the mail today. I guess I need to go see what the guys on OSA are screaming, I haven't looked at the thread yet.

It's disappointing, for sure. I will add them to the list of companies not to deal with.

Sorry to hear this. I have always been treated very well when dealing with Bud's. I sure hope this just a one time screw up.

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They give him guns and ammo.......I can't stand him......Everything he shoots is excellent........Mentions Buds all the time........He's just a paid shill.

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Over the years I have done a lot business with Buds and have noticed a downward spiral in the service and increase in prices in the last couple of years. I no longer deal with them.

They really need to do better in terms of customer service. This is why I am always discouraged to shop for things online.

On my first Gun order from Buds they sent my Revolver to the wrong FFL.
I have ordered a few things from them with no problems.

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Smell of a deal | Oklahoma Shooters


Original thread on the deal. They have since changed the Fiocchi ad in the link. It was originally 80 rounds in a Plano box. Now it's a 10 round box that's out of stock.

They really need to do better in terms of customer service. This is why I am always discouraged to shop for things online

Looking at the thread on OSA, Bud's is definitely behaving in a way that emphasizes just how little they care about customer service.

I can handle a mistake, but I can't handle a company playing dumb and trying to pass their mistake off to the customer to eat. Own up, make it right.

I read the original ad, wasn't that a "too good to be true" price?

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I thought it was dirt cheap, but Bud's is known for loss-leader types of advertising. They have blown out inventory in the past to generate visitors to their business. I've had friends who bought bulk ammo from them really cheap before and got what they expected.

I ordered 30 round Promag AR15 magazines at $2 dollars each from an online retailer. They showed up just as stated.

Pre pandemic, I ordered 3 cases of 6300 rounds Federal golden bullet for $135/case.

I bought 2 cases of 357 sig Federal Ballisticlean from Midway USA at $200/1000 when everywhere else it was $350/1000.

Too good to be true deals are out there all the time on closeouts, production overruns, loss leader specials.

As far as customer service goes, I ordered from Natchez some 44 mag ammo. They were advertised as 50 round boxes, but came in as 25 round boxes. They shipped me another order of 25 round boxes after I called.

Centerfire systems double shipped an order of 3 AK parts kits. I got 3 kits in the first delivery and 3 kits the next day when I only ordered 3 kits. They said keep them and not worry about shipping them back.

That is how you own a mistake.

That is the problem with posting shop X has product Y for sale. I see it with primers. If someone is actively searching for a product let them find it. If a deal shows up in print share it. If it shows up on the net check it out thoroughly.

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Can't speak to the specific situation, but have used Bud's for firearms several times and was satisfied. For some places, the only way you are going to get what you want is internet.

I used to order from Buds, but they ceased to be competitive. They did have a convenience factor in the online ordering process, but others caught up and became just as convenient. I would guess that changes in management and the overwhelming demand for guns and related stuff has bogged down every online firearms retailer. Everyone is stretched too thin.

I know Hickok45 and I like him a lot. He's one hell of a fine pistol shot, too.

You sound jealous. How does Hickok45's youtube gig affect you?

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I've gotten a few things last few years from Buds. Always got what I ordered although sometimes took awhile.

Never jealous of a paid shill......I have my own gun range and skeet field. And lots of stuff to use on each.....I don't need to watch others use theirs.

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I live 20 miles from buds,haven’t been in there since the late 70’s,that outta tell ya what I think of buds

Good help is getting harder to find and keep.
There may be some “New Management” issues, or something like that.

One of the things the pandemic has done is to significantly lower the quality of the workforce. A lot of good workers just said the heck with it and left. Businesses will be picking up the pieces for years.

I rarely see anything wrong with someone having sponsors that cover a lot of the costs. And the sponsors deserve the recognition.
Few people could afford to shoot and do videos of their efforts using only their own money.
I find Hickok 45 to be informative and entertaining. Most of what he says I already know, but I do learn something occasionally.

The only issue I had once with Buds was I ordered a Mossberg 930 and they sent my FFL a Remington 870. They sent it back and I cancelled the order. But I guess that's not much different than my order to Colman two weeks ago. I ordered a 100 quart cooler and received a folding stove?

Haha, I had a friend order a fancy Pelican cooler and they sent him *one* T-post. And it was bent...

Do you know for a fact he a paid shill? He is an excellent shooter which makes him perfect to evaluate firearms. Doesn't mean that you or I can shoot that same gun as well. He also receives firearms from friends and subscribers to test. Paid?

He will nitpick on some of the cosmetics but I've never heard him say he hated a particular firearm and refused to shoot it. I find him to be an honest and entertaining person.

I'm not dismissing OP's difficulties with Bud's. For me, Bud's has been 100% good. Most businesses, either online or brick & mortar, have problems at one time or another. It's how they recover from those problems that shows their mettle.

As an example of this, CDNN was 100% good until one time when they fell all over themselves. I ordered three magazines. First shipment was an empty package. When contacted, they immediately said they'd reship. Very responsive. That shipment arrived with one magazine; the other two were missing. When contacted again, they replied they'd ship the remaining quantity. The customer service person acknowledged her mistake in the reshipment. Next shipment, I got the remaining two magazines.

So it took CDNN three tries to get it right. Not a big deal in the long run. They owned their problems and fixed them as quickly as practical. To see a company have a problem and observe how they fix it is often more informative than ongoing glitch-free performance.

Exactly how I feel about it. Will always give folks another chance when they own it and make it right.

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Bud's has a very mixed bag of reviews. Either you love them or hate them.

Hickock gets most of his demo guns from them and without their sponsorship - Hickock's channel would be pretty boring. I have only dealt with Bud's once and that was enough for me!

I know a guy who had a "pet" rattle snake. It was a great snake until it bit him. I've never had a problem with Buds before this. This is not a one off mistake, several people are going to be affected by it. No one that I've heard from is satisfied with the customer service either.

Indeed. I've bought firearms from Bud's for years with complete satisfaction. Most were guns I would have never found within 250 miles.

well i shop online and always get exactly what i want... never been ripped off...

I must be naive to think our “gun owners/suppliers shooting community” is all of the same mind, that we sorta look out for one another. Guess that’s not really true when it comes to business and profits.

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I've had the same experience as you, but with a twist.

I've had Bud's ship to my range as the local FFL. After a few online purchases were sent there, the owner and his purchasing manager approached me with the request that they be given the opportunity to supply any future new firearms purchase.

Surprisingly, even though I've asked them to price firearms I'm shopping for, outside of what the usually stock, they have been able to price competitively on final out-the-door cost.

We all are happy, and I can support local business.


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In the present times it is a "Seller's Market"

I've never done business with Bud's Gun Shop but it's interesting to hear both cons and pros of doing business with such a high visible firearms dealer.

I have on occasion watched some of Hickock 45's videos. Sometimes, when I want to know about a specific gun, I search his channel on YouTube. I have actually seen him give critical reviews of a few specific firearms, most recently the new Colt Python that was locking up on him in his tryout.

I say this tongue in check, but Hickock 45 is a big Glock fan, specifically the Glock 19. That may be why some "anti plastic" folks don't care for him, but he gets a brownie point from me.

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