Went to Walmart to solve my wiper issue today. All over the doors were signs saying "Cards, no cash". Not exactly Walmart's usual business model, especially in a city that runs on tips. So the possibilities are:

1) They want to close that branch, and this will cut volume.

2) Their cash float safe threw a fit and would not open this morning.

3) The only people allowed to handle cash are all out sick.

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Fixed it for ya.

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I’m guessing #2

Kinda like the time the computers went out in the only grocery store in Jeanerette and ya had to pay cash-no credit cards no EBT cards no nuttin' but good old fashioned cash. I thought there was gonna be a riot!

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I think society is going cashless. I almost never use any cash in my wallet except for parking at football games or events and I pretty much like it that way. I see my credit card or checking account balance on my phone pretty often and can stay informed on where the money goes and I feel it's protected better than cash in my wallet.

What you mean card no good? This card good, you no good. You take card; card good….as the volcanic pressure rises in the shopping buggy train grows!

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We had an ice storm here that took out power lines. For 3 days there wasn't a place able to take cards for 30 miles in places. If you didn't have cash, you'd better have some gas. Whether it be cash, gold and silver, jewels, food or water, medicine, ammo, blankets or booze, there is always going to be an economy that runs on physical things being traded. And if the government, or the internet, or the power grid, or just society in general, goes down, that's how things will work.

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A lot of the fast food places in my part of town aren't taking cash anymore because they were getting robbed on a, seemingly, regular basis.

As far as a cashless society, I don't know. Cash, is for the most part, is untraceable. I'm just thinking out loud, but, how is/are the ruling class and other "elites" going pay for their drugs, illegal activities and get/give bribes? Write a check? Paypal?

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Plata O Plomo?
Just a Drill to get you accustomed to what can happen if the system goes down for any reason.
Seriously Folks, you should be holding some cash.
Not necessarily carrying it, I do , but have it like in your Gun Safe, etc.

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Stupid question: all the bills I have say “this note is legal tender for all debts, public and private”. Can they refuse to take cash?

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Yep . . . really convenient . . . until it isn't. A cyber attack of the magnitude our Chinese and Russian "friends" are no doubt doing their best to develop and hand out to their radical minions in Iran and their proxies in the middle east will throw us immediately back into the Dark Ages if the powers that be eventually dispense with cash. People that think that's paranoid, alarmist and unrealistic are due for a wake up call . . . US banks are constantly fighting off attacks and businesses that now are totally computer dependent (make that about ALL now) are constantly plagued by ransom ware attacks. In the last year we have witnessed local banks and hospitals all but shut down by such. And our own government is doing the same to learn to combat it and develop it as a weapon. Going cashless is not the answer, but I fear it's in the cards . . . . survival by barter system . . . .

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The war on cash is just another sign of "their" desire to control every aspect of our lives. Evil. Track everything you buy, do, or where you go.

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Went to the local Tiki bar one afternoon, and they had a sign posted cash only. Seems their computer went down and was resisting repair by the IT guys. Poor bartender had to break out a receipt book and write all the tabs by hand. He sure earned his tips that day.

On top of the cyber attacks, there is massive counterfeiting of cash and precious metals. Fake gold bars are being imported from China, supposedly they are gold plated tungsten.

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Common sense isn't so common.

They can and have. There have been a number of people trying to pay fines in pennies. Parking tickets and such. Some have been arrested for 'disorderly conduct."

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If there is no sale, there is no debt created.
Without cash, the freeway intersection panhandlers would have to carry imprinters.
Your friendly neighborhood contractor could not have a "cash price". Tax collections would, therefore, be up. Hum, could that be a motive?

73,
Rick

I pay cash except for monthly bills. Sometimes it confuses the clerks at Wally and others. Once i was given back more than the tab was, I returned it. Guess I am too honest.

Several years ago, my auto mechanic told me that labor was 3x face value if paid in food stamps and parts were cash only (but sometimes 5x face!)

Illicit trade and counterfeiting if food stamps are so rampant in Central Ohio, that the "local office" of The Department of Agriculture" has its own SWAT Team! The worst shoot outs are at Asian Markets, according to the Agriculture guy that belongs to our gun club. (We let their SWAT team do practice "Raids" at the club for free. They leave us their empty brass and usually about 500 rounds of 9mm Ball Ammo!)

A 500 round brick of 22's or a Walmart 525 round milk carton were considered the "Gold Standard" of barter in my neck of the woods! And were good everywhere except the big box stores.

Ivan

Yes, they can. While it is legal tender capable of being used for such transactions, nowhere is it said that it is required tender for a transaction. Same same as, it is legal for me to pay a debt with gold, but not required.

From the board of the Federal Reserve

Is it legal for a business in the United States to refuse cash as a form of payment?

There is no federal statute mandating that a private business, a person, or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether to accept cash unless there is a state law that says otherwise.

Section 31 U.S.C. 5103, entitled "Legal tender," states: "United States coins and currency [including Federal Reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal Reserve Banks and national banks] are legal tender for all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues." This statute means that all U.S. money as identified above is a valid and legal offer of payment for debts when tendered to a creditor.

There are 2 walmarts with 25-30 miles. One went almost entirely to self check out. This meant no cash or checks. One kept several staffed check out lines open. Personally go to the one that kept the staffed lines open.

It took Walmart a while to figure out how easy it was to steal from a self checkout line, unless they posted an employee at each line who knew what they were doing. The last i read, Walmart and several others were going to reopen some staffed check out lines again.

Am keeping the option of credit card use open, as you can't order over the internet without one. Without the credit card, would not be able to support my hobbies. My card has been hacked 3 times over the past 10 yrs. Am still refusing to go to automatic payments, or do banking over the internet. Imo, there will always be the use for cash. When i sell any used items, it be cash only.

When you think about it, you don't get much change back from
$50 and $100 dollar bills lately. If a place don't accept cash, i don't buy.

The government wants everyone to have to use cards so they can monitor and tax more transactions. Also, it would make it easier to keep people from buying “unapproved, and too much of things such as fatty foods, ammo, guns, fuel, etc.
Make no mistake, that’s what it’s all about.

We are giving up way to much if WE give up cash. IMHO we need to stop the madness and stand up.

Always carry cash, certainly never use any cards at a gas station, and pay all bills with a check, and yes, by snail mail. Sorry, I'm old school and it has never failed me. If we ever go to a "no cash " system, the powers that be will be able to track ever financial move you make .

Going cashless allows them to eliminate what few cashiers they have left. Could be a manpower issue. Could be a greed issue……. I do know this. Saturday, as a matter of convenience my wife ordered groceries on line and had them delivered. Normally they substitute name brand items when generic is out of stock. They were out of store brand dark roast coffee. Rather than substitute it came in the mail Tuesday?!?!?!?!? Not exactly cost effective

You might note that the largest denomination is $100. Years ago, that was not true. I realize most of us are not millionaires, but just consider the physical space high dollar amounts take up. A conspiracy theory is that making $100 the largest bill discourages hoarding/hiding large amounts of cash.

Look at the high employment with hiring all those people to track billions of daily purchases at the stores nationwide.

One million dollars of Benjamin's only weigh 22 pounds.
About one backpack full.

Well I'm a luddite for the most part and do carry a bit of cash at all times. With that said I use my CCs for most any purchase I make. I rather enjoy getting paid by the CC company for using their card, all you got to do is pay in full each month.

Also using those cards I get a nice print out of what I spent money on. I use one CC exclusively for medical issues, same deal it keeps track of where and when I did something medical.

As far as being on goverment lists, I would be rather disappointed if by now I'm not on on a lot of lists. Heck they know what I'm going to do before I do it.-

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Actually the reason it was done was because of drug trafficking. A million dollars of $100 bills is a lot harder to hide than a million dollars of $500 bills or $1,000 bills. It ain't a theory.

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Cashless society? In the works for a few thousand years.

Absolutely refuse to pay with your debit card if REQUIRED even if you have to walk out. Or, just lay down cash and say take it, leave it or comp it, period.
Going cashless is part of the"end game."

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I don't get as many 100 dollar bills anymore, as it seems some places don't like to change them. Now it's getting that way with 50's.

I'll carry some cash; usually less than $50. I use my debit card almost exclusively. Any unusual activities, which are almost exclusively in some other state, the card company will deny the transaction until they get ahold of me. Then I have to wait a week or so for my new card. I have two banks, so I'm not left high & dry before I can get to the credit union or bank to cash a check. Works for me. (I don't have enough money in my checking accounts to make it worth their while!)

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Cash was an government or traders invention just like cards. We have had a clam less society for a long time. Yet, cashless, clamless trade (barter) has never gone away and never will.

Notice the big bills now have a strip in them. IF the EVIL THEY really wanted to track you adding a small chip to bills wouldn't be hard and then tracking those no harder than tracking cards. Besides you are getting you cash somewhere and very few of us have that much buried in the back yard. The EVIL THEY want a look at you bank activities, the will just look

There is actually only a 2 trillion dollars in paper money in circulation now and a big share of that is held by foreign countries

We have been near cashless for a long time. Almost nobody is paid in cash, you get a check or just a pay statement, the banks takes it from the company's computer account and puts it in your computer account. Very little of it ever becomes actual cash.

Go down to the bank and tell them you want $20,000 in cash out of your accounts. LOL. Good luck with that.

There was a time you could go about life with no bank account, no longer. If you walk into a bank with a pay check written on one of their accounts they will not cash it if you do not have an account with them.

I had a guy who had not account. He did have valid ID, but always had to go to bank with company officer to cash his check. I once mistakenly had him sign his check and I gave him cash, then, when I went to my bank (a large nation wide bank) to deposit his signed check in my account they would not take it even though I had multiple times as much as the check in both my checking and savings accounts. It was a fairly large construction company with a multi million dollar payroll that has been around for decades.

Nationally we have averaged going nearly 2 trillion dollars in the hole every single year for the last 7 years, under 2 completely different administrations, totalling almost 12 trillion bucks.

A million in $100 might only weigh 22.2# but a billion weighs 22,200# and 2 billion nearly 45,000# which is the capacity of a semi trailer. So, 1 trillion bucks in $100 would need 500 semi trailer to move. We did not print 6,000 semi loads of cash in the last 7 years although it would explain the toilet paper shortages if we had.

If I pay cash, I pay full price. Why do that?

If I use my CC, I get 2% credit off my bill. Makes more sense to me.

If a business charges a 2% premium for CC, I use the card just for the convenience. If the surcharge is more than 2% I shop elsewhere.

Personally, I couldn't care less about political correctness or who tracks what. I'm all about cost effectiveness.

For those who think "they" want to "control" us...

Do you own property? Do you pay taxes? Did you serve in the military? Do you have a driver's license? A cell phone? Social Security account? Any professional or business licenses? Investments? Concealed carry permit? Airline frequent flyer account? Rewards account at your grocery store or gas station? What is about you "they" want to know that any teenager with some rudimentary computer skills can't learn?

Conspiracy theories about the government notwithstanding, your lending institutions, credit card companies, and internet providers know far more about you than the government. "They" don't have to manipulate us toward a cashless society in order to "control" us. That horse left the barn a long time ago...

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The "end game" for a lot of merchants is not to get robbed. I don't think that's an unreasonable concern.

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Maybe do some research on what the "end game" actually is?

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Oh yeah, I don’t disagree it’s related to all forms of illicit trade. But it impacts anyone who uses cash.

I seem to recall Pablo Escobar lost millions of dollars to rats due to having piles of it stored in various places. “Cost of doing business “ I guess.

Many places around here are now charging 3-4% add on if You use a credit card or debit card. Several suggest cash to avoid that charge. I always have a sigificant amount of cash available for certain contingincies such as a gun purchase or a power outage.

Was it a conspiracy theory when the Canadian government froze the bank accounts of the protesting truckers and the seizure of gofundme type accounts regular folks were using to support, pay for fuel for the truckers? "They" did that.

I might be mistaken, but I think "they" froze bank accounts of some of the folks who donated, too.

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One would have to actually know what the end entails. The gift.

I promise to read and consider anything to which you can provide a link.

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So "they" includes the Canadian government? Who else is included in "they"? Do "they" communicate and coordinate with each other?

What you described -- freezing assets -- is a common tool governments have used for decades to shut down illegal activity. If citizens of any given country -- especially a Western democracy -- don't want their government to be able to do that, aren't there remedies -- elections, courts? -- available for that?

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Have at it, you need to do your own research and not listen to some Joe blow on a public internet forum. Too many people wanna be spoon fed these days, proof is out there for those that seek it.

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I don't know about the rest of you but even if I had $10,000 in cash on hand if they froze my accounts I wouldn't make it to many months before I was outta money. The government has been able to shut down a bank account far longer than I have had one.

Anybody here need this

Well, I gave up on Walmart a couple of years ago. I will go there for for an item if In just can't find it anywhere else. But I don't go there and buy a bill of groceries or anything else.

Being away from them has added a new level of joy to my life. My only regret is that I didn't do it years ago.

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Our local store has:
* the cheapest rimfire ammo town
* the cheapest spray paint cans in town
* the cheapest car batteries in town
* the cheapest car oil in town
* the absolute best deli meats in town
* the lowest cost for routine groceries in town
* NEED I ADD more?

Seeing fat ladies in spandex really doesn't bother me. The store is 3 minutes from my house. I can go elsewhere and pay more. THAT makes no sense to me.

Plastic rules in this household. About the only thing we use cash for is valet parking. Heck, even Mister Softee takes plastic.

We show equal love to Walmart, Meijer, ALDI, Kroger and Rural King.

No complaints.

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I do appreciate the entertainment value.

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