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The new hybrid Corvette — MRSP a mere $105K — sounds pretty cool to me:



"...I recently test drove the E-Ray in the Berkshires. Moving the engine,495-horsepower V-8, behind the seats improves acceleration and handling by keeping more weight in the car's center. It also clears room below the hood for an electric motor that sends 160 horsepower to front wheels, for a total 655 horsepower and an unfair fight against strictly gasoline-powered cars.

The result is the fastest-accelerating Corvette yet with a zero to 60 miles-per-hour time of 2.5 seconds. Its electric helping hand allows the E-Ray to run its engine in four-cylinder mode more often, bringing highway fuel efficiency to a federally rated 24 miles per gallon, versus 25 for a standard Stingray with 160 fewer horsepower...."


Corvette Bucked a Sports Cars Decline. Can It Thrive in an E.V. Era? - The New York Times

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Impressive yes. But they’ve ruined yet another American icon.

It doesn’t look like a Corvette. It looks like a European coupe.

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I wonder what kind of a trade I could get on my Fiat?
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Wonder what the annual insurance premium is.
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Saw one in Carlisle PA last summer. It’s not a plug in or electric per se, it has a self generating accessory motor driving the front wheels.
Specific rotors and wheels are made for that model. The road handling is second to none.

The biggest dealer in the country has an over 500 waiting list. There are no discounts or buying at MSRP afaik.

Wait until the ZR1 debuts for 2025, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

“The ZR1 will strap a pair of turbochargers to the flat-plane-crank, 5.5-liter V-8 engine found in the Z06, where it produces 670 hp. The addition of forced induction should push the ZR1's horsepower output to over 800 ponies. All of that oomph will be sent to the rear wheels, where wide, grippy tires should help the power translate to blisteringly quick lap times. The ZR1 should also retain the beefy carbon-fiber brakes from the Z06, and we predict that it will rip to 60 mph in under 2.5 seconds.“

The basis of the front mounted electric assist motor was more for the handling aspect than any gas savings.

GM is killing it.
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A much better execution that the e'stang all around. It does look very Ferrari-ish. Not that that's a bad thing. I would need a large tire budget if I had that!
I kinda like the idea of a hybrid with an onboard electric, self charging motor. My D-I-L is on her 2nd hybrid Toyota. They have both been very well done and flawless in their operation.
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Watched a few minutes of a Formula race broadcast from London yesterday.
Took a moment to realize the cars were electric. They sounded like slot cars.
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A much better execution that the e'stang all around. It does look very Ferrari-ish. Not that that's a bad thing. I would need a large tire budget if I had that!
I kinda like the idea of a hybrid with an onboard electric, self charging motor. My D-I-L is on her 2nd hybrid Toyota. They have both been very well done and flawless in their operation.
The missus is looking at the Lexus mid size SUV. Not a PHEV, it self generates. Most of her driving is within 1-30 miles from home, perfect for her.
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And it sounds like this.
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I wonder what kind of a trade I could get on my Fiat?
Hey, how about my 2012 hybrid Toyota Aqua (AKA Prius C)? After all, pretty much the same thing as the 2024 E-Ray with its non plug in, self generating electric motor assist. (Well, same thing except for the 0-60 part...)

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Tadge explains the concept. Long, but covers all.


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The Corvette paradox....
By the time you can easily afford one....

They are to dad-burn hard to get in and out of.
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Being a hard core performance car guy all my life, I can only say that this is simply spectacular. If you are without thrills in your life, this is for you! Buckle up and hang on.
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Yep...Zora Arkus-Duntov is spinning in his grave...
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They are to dad-burn hard to get in and out of.
Some years ago, I toyed with the idea of buying a new Corvette...but then I started taking notice of who was driving them, and decided I wasn't quite that old yet. I'm still not...
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Funny people knowing nothing about history.

A rear/mid engine was his dream.
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…but not very many have been built.

Have owned a Corvette since 1989. An E Ray will be my next…then a C9. 🤞🤞

They are tremendous motor vehicles and get much better every generation. (C8 is the current generation.)

Note: For some of the previous posters, I have never owned New Balance shoes though I did rock ports as part of my crime fighting attire back in the day.😳

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I looked this guy up, never having heard of him. Quite a character, and an early advocate of the mid engine Corvette:

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Hmm. If link above doesn't work, try Googling "The Story of Zora Arkus-Duntov, the Bad-*** Who Made the Corvette an Icon" It's a Car and Driver article.

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Impressive yes. But they’ve ruined yet another American icon.

It doesn’t look like a Corvette. It looks like a European coupe.

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Which European model?

This one?




Or this?

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In two days the European slayer debuts. And GM is still not done.


https://moderncarcollector.com/chevr...zr1-on-july-25

The 2025 Corvette ZR1 is set to be the most formidable version of the C8 Corvette, boasting a mid-engine configuration that has redefined the model’s performance capabilities. This new ZR1 will feature a comprehensive aerodynamic overhaul, including an aggressive front splitter and a substantial fixed rear wing designed to enhance downforce and stability at high speeds.

Under the hood, the Corvette ZR1 is rumored to house a twin-turbocharged V8 engine. Speculation suggests that it will utilize the same 5.5-liter block found in the Z06, but with significant enhancements to boost its output to approximately 850 horsepower and 737 lb-ft of torque. This power will be managed by an 8-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission, ensuring rapid gear changes and maintaining the car’s performance edge.

Recent sightings of the ZR1 testing at the Nurburgring have only heightened anticipation. The rigorous testing on this demanding track indicates Chevrolet’s commitment to ensuring the ZR1 can compete with Europe’s finest sports cars. Fans are eagerly awaiting to see how this American powerhouse will perform against international rivals and whether it can set a new benchmark lap time at the famous German circuit.

In addition to its performance upgrades, the ZR1 is expected to incorporate advanced handling features tailored for the track. These enhancements will make it not just a beast on straightaways but also a formidable contender on winding courses.

As the countdown to the July 25 reveal continues, the automotive world is abuzz with excitement. The 2025 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 is poised to make a significant impact, blending raw power with cutting-edge technology and design. This debut will undoubtedly mark a new chapter in the storied legacy of the Corvette, further solidifying its status as an American automotive icon.
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https://moderncarcollector.com/chevr...zr1-on-july-25

The 2025 Corvette ZR1 is set to be the most formidable version of the C8 Corvette, boasting a mid-engine configuration that has redefined the model’s performance capabilities. This new ZR1 will feature a comprehensive aerodynamic overhaul, including an aggressive front splitter and a substantial fixed rear wing designed to enhance downforce and stability at high speeds.

Under the hood, the Corvette ZR1 is rumored to house a twin-turbocharged V8 engine. Speculation suggests that it will utilize the same 5.5-liter block found in the Z06, but with significant enhancements to boost its output to approximately 850 horsepower and 737 lb-ft of torque. This power will be managed by an 8-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission, ensuring rapid gear changes and maintaining the car’s performance edge.

Recent sightings of the ZR1 testing at the Nurburgring have only heightened anticipation. The rigorous testing on this demanding track indicates Chevrolet’s commitment to ensuring the ZR1 can compete with Europe’s finest sports cars. Fans are eagerly awaiting to see how this American powerhouse will perform against international rivals and whether it can set a new benchmark lap time at the famous German circuit.

In addition to its performance upgrades, the ZR1 is expected to incorporate advanced handling features tailored for the track. These enhancements will make it not just a beast on straightaways but also a formidable contender on winding courses.

As the countdown to the July 25 reveal continues, the automotive world is abuzz with excitement. The 2025 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 is poised to make a significant impact, blending raw power with cutting-edge technology and design. This debut will undoubtedly mark a new chapter in the storied legacy of the Corvette, further solidifying its status as an American automotive icon.
Looks like I was born about 10 years too early.

With that said it did allow me to be a full participant in the great muscle car era of the mid 60s to early 70s!
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I looked this guy up, never having heard of him. Quite a character, and an early advocate of the mid engine Corvette:

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The man dreamed of the idea, I’m sure he is quite ecstatic..


His remains are buried at the National Corvette Museum in Bowling Green, KY.
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1064 HP 828 lb.-ft torque

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I have a C6 in velocity yellow. I know it’s not as fast or sophisticated as the newer ones but I love it for what it is. A big V8 a stick shift and clutch and no fancy electronics on the dash. It’s what I like.
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The ZR1 Euro exotic slayer, actually 7 of them including a cutaway, from reports, will be in Carlisle PA in 4 days.
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Well, I could probably only sit in that thing for 30 minutes at a time. Not saying I don't think it's cool. But, if I was going to spend that kind of money it would have to be on a 55-60 year old Shelby. It's not the money, my wife's last vehicle cost that much. It can go 0-60 in about 12 seconds, pulling a 4 horse living quarters trailer. No horses though.
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Being a practical type who does most of his own maintenance, I have to wonder how one reaches the engines in those mid-engine beasts. The race cars are generally pretty easy with the rear body work being easily (relatively) to remove.

Maybe it's another of those "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" things.

Oh, where's the spare? Or is it another "if you have to ask" things? I imagine a bad tire on a road trip is gonna "be an issue". I recall a back & forth between an MB driver and the local tire shop decades ago. The guy just couldn't understand why they didn't stock the required tire. He ended up with a motel stay.

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Looks like a Hyundai or Mitsubishi. This American icon is only for the wealthy now.

I would take my 61 283, 3speed , hard top convertible any day. A true classic
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Imagine GM making a retro (with, of course, some modern components) '67 Corvette, the last of the good looking ones. Would there be a market? Would they be priced out of reach for most folks?

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Ferrari called. They want their designer back.

The 2013 LaFerrari:



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Having had a few Vettes..the first a 58...then a 62...then the 63 SW and a 66 Convertible w /HT...The most fun one was the 66. The 63 I should have kept.. After 67 they went to Hell in a handbasket. The Coupe was a great car...but too hot in the summer....so was the 64 Jag...and more needful of maintenance...The one real classic I should have kept was the 57 T Bird w/HTop
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That Ferrari comparison is fun. I think the Ferrari is marginally prettier.

I looked it up.

Base price is (was?) $1.4M compared to the Vette's $105K. Ferrari spec said 0-60 in under three seconds. Vette above is 2.5.

I like the Ferrari ... maybe a bit better looking. But I don't like its looks $1.3M better! (And maintenance costs.... I knew a guy who knew a guy who owned one back in the 1990s. He said the owner was paying over $10K per year to keep it tuned.)

The comparison makes me realize what an amazing accomplishment that new mid-engine Vette is.

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That Ferrari comparison is fun. I think the Ferrari is marginally prettier.
Definitely. Hood to the roof line and back is beautiful. The intake was designed by an artist.
The scoop on the 'Vette looks like a tuna.

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But what does the exhaust note sound like?
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Not sure if it was a hybrid like this, but they had what they called an e-Vette pace the Indy 500 this year. Of course it was hard to hear even if it did make a sound with the field a half mile behind, but it seemed absolutely silent…almost no tire noise on the smooth brickyard track at all and no engine noise. I’d estimate the top speed it hit was well over 100mph and still no sound…eerie!
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Wouldn't give a dime for a post-'63 Corvette.
I saw a very nice 63 split rear window at a trunk or treat over the weekend.

I was -4 years old when it was built, but I get it. That, to me, is a VETTE.
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Having been in the car/truck business all of my working life, having worked at Ford SVO in the 80’s, been the powertrain guy on the GN34 sports car program, and having been addicted to hot cars since the 60’s, having sold my 2008 C6 Z06 because…………there was virtually NO PLACE to drive it without serious legal consequences, I have to ask, Where can you drive this beast? I’m afraid it would become a “hangar queen”. I’ll stick with S&W revolvers.
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I think some of the mid-60s big block Corvettes are interesting, but getting in or out is a bear, and I am sure that carrying two Rottweilers in one would be far too difficult. I think I will enjoy the semi we bought as the foundation for our RV far more.
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It is a European supercar killer for sure, but I still prefer the C6 body the best. They got everything they could from the front engine design. It was time for a change to compete and take the lead.
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Was notified of an allocation for an E-Ray about a month ago. An allocation means the dealer has an opportunity for a confirmed order and it was mine if I chose.

After due consideration I declined to place an order. I “speced” my potential order online. It would be north of $150K. Simply could not justify it at this moment. Moreover, it would look almost exactly like the 2022 Corvette I currently own. What’s the point of having a new ride if nobody knows? 😂😂 I am kidding, of course.

There very likely will be another Corvette in my future but no E-Ray just yet.

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