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New One Dollar Gold Coins, Godless
I was handed two one dollar gold coins a few days ago and thought, cool. Come to find out there is no, "In God We Trust", on it. I will refuse to take them from now on. I have a photo of the coin but don't have the time to upload it to this post.
Oh well, soon every new bill will not have it on them. Heck why not? My debit card, which is my money, doesn't say in God we trust.
My guess is that the USA flags will not be allowed to be on school grounds or even flown at all. At least they will try and are trying, can't fly the Confederate Flag in places. As soon as the guns are gone you watch and see the "Changes".
Please only comment on the gold coin to avoid getting off topic. I just had to express my internal madness over all that's happening.
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Look on the edge. It's still there, but you have to look for it. Same as not there, to me. I think that's the point.
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If you do actually have one that doesn't have the writing on the sides...
I'll give you two dollars for it. Actually, it'd be worth quite a bit of money to collectors!
I can't remember which piece of 1790's coinage had it, but if I remember correctly, this is the first piece of American coinage to have the inscription along the outside edge since that time. Or was it the trade dollar? I know it was one of them, because the writing on the sides of the coin helped to identify any coin that had been "shaved"- where a bit of silver or gold had been taken off of the coin. Yes, people were dishonest in the 1790's, believe it or not.
(I don't have my coin guide book handy at the moment)
However, some bright chap came up with the idea of giving coins a "reeded" edge- you know, all the little ridges, of if any place were flat, you know that the coin was "shaved" and no one would accept it. Smart chap he was, whoever it was, and the process continued pretty much this way until the introduction of the brassoid/pot metal dollars they are trying to get circulating.
Just use the fifty-cent piece and the two-dollar bill for Pete's sake!
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Check out the two immigration laws floored right now.
Immigration Reform: Sen. Harry Reld(D-NV) called for action this year on comprehensive immigration reform. Border security, the expansion of a guest worker program, a pathway to legalization for illegal immigrants and stronger penalties for companies who employ illegal aliens are areas Sen. Reld mentioned for the measure.
Immigrant Responsibility Act: Lawmakers are considering a bill that would allow illegal aliens to receive residence status when applying for college if they entered the country before their 16th birthday and have shown "good moral character". Other conditions would also apply.(S.729)
Remove "In God We Trust" and ask me what good moral character means....must have to leave that out, too.
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I think the whole point of putting it on the edge was it was un-noticeable and that's also where it will likely wear off in circulation.
Doesn't matter . . . anyone who is foolish enough to believe God can be removed from anywhere or anything is only deluding themselves. I suppose you could make it illegal or unfashionable to refer to or make written reference to the sun in the sky, but that doesn't make it go away . . . .
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I don't care if it's on there. I don't care if it's not on there.
I care that in a few years a paper dollar might be worth so little that it'll take a dump truck full of them to buy a Slim Jim.
THAT I care about.
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Look on the edge. It's still there, but you have to look for it. Same as not there, to me. I think that's the point.
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You are correct, it is written on the edge, that helps. Thanks. Joe
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I reported on this a year or so ago. Hiding the moto on the rim is the begining of the end.
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beginning of the end? but it wasn't even there from the beginning.....
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beginning of the end? but it wasn't even there from the beginning.....
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Kind of like something from nothing??
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I don't care if it's on there. I don't care if it's not on there.
I care that in a few years a paper dollar might be worth so little that it'll take a dump truck full of them to buy a Slim Jim.
THAT I care about.
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You may not be able to buy a Slim Jim in a few years anyway since the plant blew up.
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I was handed two one dollar gold coins a few days ago and thought, cool. Come to find out there is no, "In God We Trust", on it.
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Get a grip. "In God We Trust" is there, as it is on all other coins. Assuming you aren't just paraphrasing a mendacious e-mail, I suggest you actually bother to LOOK at the coins in question. It's there on the edge, so the blind won't confuse it with similar-sized coins, which have reeded edges, and so cheats won't file the coins down for the gold.
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I don't care if it's on there. I don't care if it's not on there.
I care that in a few years a paper dollar might be worth so little that it'll take a dump truck full of them to buy a Slim Jim.
THAT I care about.
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Won't buy a Slim Jim® as the factory was destroyed.
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Get a grip. "In God We Trust" is there, as it is on all other coins. Assuming you aren't just paraphrasing a mendacious e-mail, I suggest you actually bother to LOOK at the coins in question. It's there on the edge, so the blind won't confuse it with similar-sized coins, which have reeded edges, and so cheats won't file the coins down for the gold.
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Actually, the motto "In God We Trust" is no longer on the edge of the Presidential dollars. Beginning this year, it's now on the obverse, or "heads" of the coin. As for anyone filing the coins down for the "gold", there is absolutely no gold in the Presidential dollars. It's simply a thin gold colored plating that is used to help differentiate the dollar coin from a quarter.
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If anyone has a problem with "in God we trust" being written on their money.. I'll gladly take it.
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The only place I have ever received a gold dollar coin was out of the stamp machine at the post office, if you give the clerk at Wendys one, it really screws them up,,they dont know what to do with them
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The only place I have ever received a gold dollar coin was out of the stamp machine at the post office, if you give the clerk at Wendys one, it really screws them up,,they dont know what to do with them
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Wow what would happen if your total was $3 and you gave them a gold dollar and a 2 dollar bill?
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If anyone has a problem with "in God we trust" being written on their money.. I'll gladly take it.
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Actually, the motto "In God We Trust" is no longer on the edge of the Presidential dollars. Beginning this year, it's now on the obverse, or "heads" of the coin.
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No doubt to placate the rabble and rants like the one which started this thread....
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As for anyone filing the coins down for the "gold", there is absolutely no gold in the Presidential dollars. It's simply a thin gold colored plating that is used to help differentiate the dollar coin from a quarter.
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Good point! Our coinage hasn't had any metal worth shaving since 1964.
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No doubt to placate the rabble and rants like the one which started this thread....
Good point! Our coinage hasn't had any metal worth shaving since 1964.
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You mean minted since 1969. That's when the 40% silver clad halves for circulation were discontinued in favor of the cupro-nickel ones. The 1970 half doesn't count because it wasn't minted for circulation- only for mint sets, as well as the late (started in 1992) proof 90% silver dimes, quarters and halves for sets.
At current prices, those old 40% silver halves (1965-1969) have a melt value @ $2.25. ( 0.1479 troy oz. of silver @$15.15 per troy oz.)
Which is better than a spit in the eye.
I'd rather have pre-64's, but I won't turn down clad halves for fifty-cents each.
Was there something wrong with the water in 1964?!?!?
Winchester changed hands and started cheapening things, they took the silver out of money and the Fed essentially took over our currency fully, S&W was sold after "The Swede," C.R. Hellstrom passed away, and a lot of other things I can't think of right now. My head hurts thinking about it.
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Johnson's first full year in office AND an election year. When you try to get guns AND butter from the economy, something has to give.
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At the time that the 13 colonies were forming into the new nation, we used Spanish and British money, which did not include that inscription. The new nation made it better than it will in our day.
Nonetheless, I believe that many in our government are godless. That includes someone who is often suspected of being a Muslim. Just my gut feeling, but it bothers me that I'd even have to suspect that at the highest levels of our government.
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It really doesn't matter what it does or doesn't say anymore?
'Cause, it's only worth 11 cents no matter what it says!
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Get a grip. "In God We Trust" is there, as it is on all other coins. Assuming you aren't just paraphrasing a mendacious e-mail, I suggest you actually bother to LOOK at the coins in question. It's there on the edge, so the blind won't confuse it with similar-sized coins, which have reeded edges, and so cheats won't file the coins down for the gold.
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Why don't you get a "grip" and read some of the post right after mine and my reply? Someone already said it was on the edge before you and I looked and sure enough. What did you do, read my post and and post a reply without reading anything else then jab me? SO YES, I did bother to LOOK at the coins. Get a grip, give me a break brother. Damn man. And yes, "I" will accept them now that it is on there.
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And yes, it will accept them now that it is on there.
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And what "it" that is now supposedly accepting them might that be?
And the other "it" - the motto - was ALWAYS "on there."
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And what "it" that is now supposedly accepting them might that be?
And the other "it" - the motto - was ALWAYS "on there."
Next pointless tantrum......
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Hay man, it was a typo, ok?? "it" was "I" will accept the coin. You got a bug in your pants or something? Guess I better proof read my stuff when it comes to replying to you huh? Do you have a problem that I have a problem that the liberal left wants to remove God from everything? Tantrum? You seem like someone trying to... well, lets drop it and move on ok?
Dang.
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My understanding is that, "IN GOD WE TRUST" first appeared on American coins during the Civil War, when the nation became even more fervently religious.
Frankly, I don't care whether the phrase is on there.
I don't subscribe to any organized religion but I do believe in a higher being and the concepts of Heaven and Hell.
I don't care what anyone believes, even atheists, as long as everyone treats each other with dignity, respect and kindness.
Odd how those four words seem to create such hate and derision.
I wonder how Jesus, Buddha or Confucius would have felt about it?
My guess is that they would have shrugged at the words, and been more interested in whether you use some of your money to help those in need.
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Next year it will say allah achbar
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I don't care if it's on there. I don't care if it's not on there.
I care that in a few years a paper dollar might be worth so little that it'll take a dump truck full of them to buy a Slim Jim.
THAT I care about.
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I will not accept them in change nor will I use them.
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I wonder how Jesus, Buddha or Confucius would have felt about it?
My guess is that they would have shrugged at the words, and been more interested in whether you use some of your money to help those in need.
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Well, NOW you've gone and done it.
Injected reason and logic into a jingostic jihad.
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My understanding is that, "IN GOD WE TRUST" first appeared on American coins during the Civil War, when the nation became even more fervently religious.
Frankly, I don't care whether the phrase is on there.
I don't subscribe to any organized religion but I do believe in a higher being and the concepts of Heaven and Hell.
I don't care what anyone believes, even atheists, as long as everyone treats each other with dignity, respect and kindness.
Odd how those four words seem to create such hate and derision.
I wonder how Jesus, Buddha or Confucius would have felt about it?
My guess is that they would have shrugged at the words, and been more interested in whether you use some of your money to help those in need.
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If it's not important enough for your deity to command the world to put its name on pieces of metal, why are you concerned about it?
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Wow what would happen if your total was $3 and you gave them a gold dollar and a 2 dollar bill?
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I go to the bank once a month and get a couple rolls of gold dollars and also try to scarf up any $2 bills they have, sometimes they have them and sometimes they don't. I get a charge out of using them, and most people like it and will comment and say "wow, I've never seen one of those before" in reference to the dollars, or "I've not seen one of these in years" referring to the $2 bills.
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[QUOTE=Gatofeo;976497]My understanding is that, "IN GOD WE TRUST" first appeared on American coins during the Civil War, QUOTE]
1864 was first time it appeared on 2 cent coin
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