Can I bring a PB&J on an airplane?

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If they ban peanut butter, it will be because of potential liability issues.

Back when we all grew up, nut allergies were all but unheard of. But in the last 2-3 decades, nut allergies have increased at amazing numbers, and nobody really knows why. Schools have had to ban peanut butter and all snacks/candy that contain nuts or even nut oils, as most of you likely know, because in a typical school there are a handful of kids allergic. Some of these allergies are mild, and the nuts need to be ingested, causing hives and a rash. But others are life threatening emergencies, anaphylactic shock like a bee sting needing epinephrine injections to stop it. The exposure might not require eating anything at all, just exposure to dust-like fragments from a peanut being crushed on a floor. Or the brown skin around one.
Keep in mind that just like bee stings, an allergic reaction can sometimes change from a mild to a life threatening reaction in consecutive exposures to the allergen. Nut allergies in kids are known to do this.


Ah, the old peanut allergy...Forgot about that...I remember SouthWest Airlines getting their teat in a wringer by serving individual packet's of the dangerous Peanuts..Seems that they now offer peanut free flights..
 
Expect to have your PBJ palpated, probed and groped to make sure you have not somehow magically hidden a Sig-Sauer inside your 1/2 inch thick sandwich --- I would cut the sandwich into 4 quarters so the clueless TSA agent will be able to figure out that no contraband is hidden inside. Include a note from your grandmother that you have always loved PBJ and that she made this one especially for your trip:D

Actually, you should be ok with a travel PBJ.
 
Aloha,

Here's a list of some of the foods that I brought on board an Alaska

Airlines flight from Honolulu to Seattle. What I had was a little of this n

a little of that. Chicken musubi, shrimp tempura, hash, plain musubi and a

few others.

Breezed right thru security, the flight crew had a chuckle when they saw

what I had brought on to eat.

Here's the menu from where I got the food

Nu'uanu Okazuya Menu

If you come to Honolulu, be sure to stop there for munchies. Go early

because they run out of food after 12 and they close soon after.
 
If I can't drive to my destination, I don't go. I hate the airlines and the morons working "security" at the airport - I don't even like picking people up at the airport. The whole place is a joke.
Now...ask me how I feel about flying.....rant over.:D

Pete
 
...Here's my recent experience with the TSA "officials" ---

Departing, Delta, Phoenix to eastern Ohio ---

"I'll need a 'firearms tag' , and I'll stick with the bag until it's cleared TSA screening."

"OK", sign here, &TC., and follow me..."

So, I followed the ticket agent to the backroom TSA inspection area, where the TSA "official", who was inspecting my bag only because it held a declared firearm, proceeded to conduct a complete and thorough swab of every little bit of my baggage, looking for "glycerin", "nitrates", and so forth. I interrupted his pointless work to ask, "Why are you ignoring my declared firearm, and inspecting the rest of my bag for explosives ???"

"Just standard procedure, Sir."

Five minutes later I got my life back, after a pointless search of my luggage for explosives, because I'd declared a gun....

I'm curious: On what basis do you declare that various TSA policies are "pointless"? Are you employed in the field of aviation safety? Do you have a working knowledge of TSA's policies? Do you know what TSA requires of its employees? Did it occur to you that they might have swabbed your bag for explosives because that's what is required of them any time they open a bag? When the TSA officer told you that what he was doing is "standard procedure", why wasn't that a good enough answer for you? Would you knowingly violate a directive from your employer because someone you didn't know thought it "pointless"?
 
The above posts show have far a once free country and people have sunken.

On the contrary, I think the above posts show how little people understand about aviation security these days.

All of TSA's policies are contained on that agency's website, and are easy to understand. I fly quite a bit -- not as much as a business traveler, but more than most other folks I know -- and I have never had a problem at a checkpoint. Then again, I follow TSA's rules, and I am friendly and polite to TSA officers, rather than snide and condescending.

Let me cite two recent situations...

When I fly, if I have a checked bag, I put my Leatherman Wave and my Buck folding knife in that bag, since I know they can't go through the checkpoint. But I do carry with me a small keychain Swiss Army knife that I modified by cutting the blade off, leaving only the nail file/screwdriver and scissors, and with it I have a Leatherman Style PS, a small tool that also has no knife blade.

A couple of months ago, I took a short trip to southwestern Florida to visit old friends. At the airports in Baltimore and Fort Myers, I divested those little pocket tools, put them in plain sight in a bin, and waited patiently while the TSA officers did their jobs and inspected them. No problem. The TSA people were professional and courteous, as was I.

Last week I flew again. The guy in front of me had a money clip with a knife blade built into it. Knives are prohibited, there are signs and recorded announcements advising that, and that guy had to have known he was not allowed to have that blade. The TSA guy who inspected the knife told the passenger he could check the bag, mail it back to himself, take it back to his car, or surrender it to be disposed of, but it couldn't go past the checkpoint. What did the passenger do? He started yelling that this isn't America anymore, that TSA's rules are stupid, etc., etc., which got him nowhere.

Know the rules and follow them...it really is that simple.
 
If I can't drive to my destination, I don't go. I hate the airlines and the morons working "security" at the airport - I don't even like picking people up at the airport. The whole place is a joke.
Now...ask me how I feel about flying.....rant over.:D

Pete

You don't fly, but you hate airlines, and you know the security people working at the airport are "morons". Gee, for somebody who doesn't fly, you sure seem to know a lot about flying...

I suspect the people who work at the airport are just as happy that you drive everywhere. Personally, I can't drive to Germany or Austria, so I just follow the rules that are clearly posted and I never have a problem. Of course, I don't call TSA officers "morons" either...hmmmm, might that also explain why I have no problem flying?
 
You don't fly, but you hate airlines, and you know the security people working at the airport are "morons". Gee, for somebody who doesn't fly, you sure seem to know a lot about flying...

I suspect the people who work at the airport are just as happy that you drive everywhere. Personally, I can't drive to Germany or Austria, so I just follow the rules that are clearly posted and I never have a problem. Of course, I don't call TSA officers "morons" either...hmmmm, might that also explain why I have no problem flying?

Used to fly a lot for business - weekly - I don't fly anymore (last two years) so I can't say I should or would be happy with the non-service that the airlines provide today.

As far as the TSA morons go - I can't really believe anyone who is a professional person would have to spend 40 minutes to determine that my 92 year old mother in her wheelchair is OK to go through to board her flight. Yes, she has both knees replaced and arthritis up so bad she can hardly walk which is why she is in the wheelchair. Even the kids in 1rst grade can see she is not a threat in any way shape or form. 40 minutes? Get real.

But if you are happy flying and going through this joke they call security at the airports - have at it! I won't hold it against you, but I'm not interested.

Pete

But you're right - I shouldn't lump them all together and refer to them all as "morons" they're just doing the job as trained by the people in charge. Who knows what careers they had prior to this? I'm sure some are over qualified for the position, some are perhaps not.
 
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I'm curious: On what basis do you declare that various TSA policies are "pointless"? Are you employed in the field of aviation safety? Do you have a working knowledge of TSA's policies? Do you know what TSA requires of its employees? Did it occur to you that they might have swabbed your bag for explosives because that's what is required of them any time they open a bag? When the TSA officer told you that what he was doing is "standard procedure", why wasn't that a good enough answer for you? Would you knowingly violate a directive from your employer because someone you didn't know thought it "pointless"?

I didn't declare that "various TSA policies are 'pointless'", I said that searching my luggage for explosive residue was pointless in view of the fact that I had simply declared a firearm, not said, "I've got a bomb"or anything about explosives... I think you mean "aviation security", rather than "aviation safety", the former having to do with preventing criminal acts, the latter having to do with not crashing the plane, and, I guess I know as much, and maybe a little more about it, as any civilian who can read and understand the published rules and regulations, and who can ask a few questions... As far as I can tell, TSA doesn't require much of it's employees beyond the capability to fog up a mirror, and to show up most of the time... No, it frankly didn't occur to me that TSA might have some policy requiring them to swab any bag they may have opened, because, as far as I know, there's no reason to open every, or any bag, containing a declared firearm, and this is almost never done --- usually, they use their "X-Ray" devices to examine the luggage, and I've never been requested by TSA to open the hard case containing my firearms (untrained, unqualified ticket agents occasionally do, as previously mentioned...) (I once asked a TSA "official" why they cared to give checked firearms any particular scrutiny, since after all, you've announced that you're checking them, they're inaccessible once checked, and of no use in committing a hijacking or the like --- the plausible reply was that a (steel) firearm itself might render some other contraband, an explosive, or etc., invisible to their "X-Ray" equipment, rather than any particular interest in the firearm itself...) His "standard procedure" answer was "good enough" for me in terms of our neither snide nor condescending dialogue --- I hadn't told the poor TSA guy that he was conducting a pointless search, or asked him to contravene what he evidently understood, if perhaps erroneously, to be a policy directive. I didn't argue, just asked.My post was simply intended to illustrate that there are inconsistent, illogical, seemingly idiotic policies in place, that improve neither our security, or our airline travel experience. I recommend some form of exercise other than leaping to conclusions ...
 
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Used to fly a lot for business - weekly - I don't fly anymore (last two years) so I can't say I should or would be happy with the non-service that the airlines provide today.

As far as the TSA morons go - I can't really believe anyone who is a professional person would have to spend 40 minutes to determine that my 92 year old mother in her wheelchair is OK to go through to board her flight. Yes, she has both knees replaced and arthritis up so bad she can hardly walk which is why she is in the wheelchair. Even the kids in 1rst grade can see she is not a threat in any way shape or form. 40 minutes? Get real.

But if you are happy flying and going through this joke they call security at the airports - have at it! I won't hold it against you, but I'm not interested.

Pete

But you're right - I shouldn't lump them all together and refer to them all as "morons" they're just doing the job as trained by the people in charge. Who knows what careers they had prior to this? I'm sure some are over qualified for the position, some are perhaps not.

You claim it took 40 minutes for TSA to clear a woman in a wheelchair? And you tell me to get real?

April 1st is still three months off.
 
I didn't declare that "various TSA policies are 'pointless'", I said that searching my luggage for explosive residue was pointless in view of the fact that I had simply declared a firearm, not said, "I've got a bomb"or anything about explosives... I think you mean "aviation security", rather than "aviation safety", the former having to do with preventing criminal acts, the latter having to do with not crashing the plane, and, I guess I know as much, and maybe a little more about it, as any civilian who can read and understand the published rules and regulations, and who can ask a few questions... As far as I can tell, TSA doesn't require much of it's employees beyond the capability to fog up a mirror, and to show up most of the time... No, it frankly didn't occur to me that TSA might have some policy requiring them to swab any bag they may have opened, because, as far as I know, there's no reason to open every, or any bag, containing a declared firearm, and this is almost never done --- usually, they use their "X-Ray" devices to examine the luggage, and I've never been requested by TSA to open the hard case containing my firearms (untrained, unqualified ticket agents occasionally do, as previously mentioned...) (I once asked a TSA "official" why they cared to give checked firearms any particular scrutiny, since after all, you've announced that you're checking them, they're inaccessible once checked, and of no use in committing a hijacking or the like --- the plausible reply was that a (steel) firearm itself might render some other contraband, an explosive, or etc., invisible to their "X-Ray" equipment, rather than any particular interest in the firearm itself...) His "standard procedure" answer was "good enough" for me in terms of our neither snide nor condescending dialogue --- I hadn't told the poor TSA guy that he was conducting a pointless search, or asked him to contravene what he evidently understood, if perhaps erroneously, to be a policy directive. I didn't argue, just asked.My post was simply intended to illustrate that there are inconsistent, illogical, seemingly idiotic policies in place, that improve neither our security, or our airline travel experience. I recommend some form of exercise other than leaping to conclusions ...

The conclusion-leap was made when you declared that something you didn't understand was pointless.
 
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I got away with

Three slices of Chocolate Rum Cake. It kind of got flattened in transit but the Beagles weren't interested nor the TSA folks. Dark Chocolate Icing with toasted pecan bits. Wish I had another three slices..
 
You claim it took 40 minutes for TSA to clear a woman in a wheelchair? And you tell me to get real?

April 1st is still three months off.

I was there - you must not have been.

To me, just the fact that someone needed to ask if it's ok to take a PBJ sandwich with him says a lot about how far off the track that whole system is.

Pete
 
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I think the thing that is being missed, and I will point it out again, is that some people are allergic to peanut product's..
They can raise a big stink over someone eating a peanut product on a plane..
You think the non smokers and non drinkers are off the wall, these peanut zealots put them to shame..
Just saying....
 
No sir, it is you who is missing the point. The potential restriction has nothing whatsoever to do with possible allergic reactions. Nothing, zip, nada. Please read the TSA information for more information.

Be safe.



I think the thing that is being missed, and I will point it out again, is that some people are allergic to peanut product's..
They can raise a big stink over someone eating a peanut product on a plane..
You think the non smokers and non drinkers are off the wall, these peanut zealots put them to shame..
Just saying....
 
No sir, it is you who is missing the point. The potential restriction has nothing whatsoever to do with possible allergic reactions. Nothing, zip, nada. Please read the TSA information for more information.

Be safe.

I am not talking about TSA policy, I am speaking of the policy of the Air carrier..Believe it or not, there are "peanut free" flight's..Just do a google search if you don't believe me..
If a flight is designated as no peanuts allowed, there goes your PB&J..I had only heard of a stink awhile back with SWA who gives out free bags of peanut's, because of a person who had adverse reactions to them..
Check it out...

Wish they would have a perfume free flight ..jeeze
 
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