Zombie experts, Zombie hunting, Zombies period!

OK, just yesteday, I saw the last half of a cheapo--some 1950s made B&W cheapie Zombie type movie. No--they didnt look grotesque, just looked like they were painted grey. Anyway, not scary at all, and can easily be compared with the Zombies from: Night of the living dead--th original B&W movie.

Ive seen that movie twice--and I dont see whats supposed to be so scary about it? My former roommate Sarge Bill, said that he and another guy that roomed together when they were in the Army--saw it in theaters back when it firstcame out. Said they slept with lights on that night. Anyway, the ""scary"" thing about that movie to me--wasall the needless screaming at everything every other 3 seconds of the movie.

Foast-forward to todays versions of this movie--including The Walking Dead. I find The Walking Dead--muh more"scarier"" then these other versions--even the newer flood of Zombie movies.

Some things id like any Zombie "'experten"" to answer if possible? OK, the 1950s Zobie movie--simplyende wihtthe zombies walking back into the ocean after the diamond hunters gave them back their diamonds. BIG DEAL...

The original Night of the Living Dead--just a lot of screaming and such--yeah--I know--a VERY low budgeted movie socant expect much. I didnt expect anything and got what I expected.

OK, since that movie--""killing Zombies"" meant shooting or bashing themin the head. OK--Zombies are already dead--so how can one "kill"a zombie if they are already dead? Why is it that stabbing or shooting or bashing in their heads--""kills"" them? They are dead--so how can the dead die again?:? After all--they are NOT--Casca Rufio Longinus! They were NOT cursed by Christ to die more than once--they died once.

Also, why is it that when they are "killed" that it always has to be a head stab, bash or shot? Why not--shoot in the heart--even though there SHOULD be no heartbeat? since they are already "'dead.""So,since they are already dead--how can they be made"dead" again?

Yeah--I know--stupid thread of the day...

the ringo kid said:

OK, just yesteday, I saw the last half of a cheapo--some 1950s made B&W cheapie Zombie type movie. No--they didnt look grotesque, just looked like they were painted grey. Anyway, not scary at all, and can easily be compared with the Zombies from: Night of the living dead--th original B&W movie.

Ive seen that movie twice--and I dont see whats supposed to be so scary about it? My former roommate Sarge Bill, said that he and another guy that roomed together when they were in the Army--saw it in theaters back when it firstcame out. Said they slept with lights on that night. Anyway, the ""scary"" thing about that movie to me--wasall the needless screaming at everything every other 3 seconds of the movie.

Foast-forward to todays versions of this movie--including The Walking Dead. I find The Walking Dead--muh more"scarier"" then these other versions--even the newer flood of Zombie movies.

Some things id like any Zombie "'experten"" to answer if possible? OK, the 1950s Zobie movie--simplyende wihtthe zombies walking back into the ocean after the diamond hunters gave them back their diamonds. BIG DEAL...

The original Night of the Living Dead--just a lot of screaming and such--yeah--I know--a VERY low budgeted movie socant expect much. I didnt expect anything and got what I expected.

OK, since that movie--""killing Zombies"" meant shooting or bashing themin the head. OK--Zombies are already dead--so how can one "kill"a zombie if they are already dead? Why is it that stabbing or shooting or bashing in their heads--""kills"" them? They are dead--so how can the dead die again?:? After all--they are NOT--Casca Rufio Longinus! They were NOT cursed by Christ to die more than once--they died once.

Also, why is it that when they are "killed" that it always has to be a head stab, bash or shot? Why not--shoot in the heart--even though there SHOULD be no heartbeat? since they are already "'dead.""So,since they are already dead--how can they be made"dead" again?

Yeah--I know--stupid thread of the day...

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OK. Let me try to explain this. A head shot will destroy the nanotubular network in the brain. The cerebellum and brainstem stop functioning and the undead become "re-dead". The viral particles may remain viable for weeks in the corpse but it cannot reanimate the corpse.

rekill with fire

I should add that you really should not over think this, but rather, play along.
Aside from the vexing question of what the ideal caliber might be for the Easter Egg hunt, Zombie guns give us the ability to purchase guns that we could not otherwise justify to our significant others

Our efforts should be put towards other festive events to offer more opportunities to add to our collections.

All function comes from the brain, even the most basic. The heart is dead, no blood flow but the virus keeps the most primitive functions of the brain alive. Move and eat. Destroy the brain to stop the zombie.

Full Rights for Zombies Now!

I really resent all the disparaging remarks made about Zombies. Just because the federal government has yet to declare Zombies a protected minority group is no reason for all the discrimination I see in movies and on TV and on the Internet.

Zombies have feelings too. So no more of this talk about going out Zombie Knocking, or Zombie Hunting, or Zombie Killing. Let’s show a little respect here folks!

I mean it could be your sister or daughter that marries a Zombie and then how will you feel?

As the great zombie hunter, Elmer Fudd, reminds us... One of the most important things about killing zombies is to be vewy vewy qwiet....

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Head shot, for sure. And don't even think about stabbing them.
You get that gooey discharge stuff all over you.
It's all most like zapping Kleons. If you have your phaser turned up too high, you get that nasty Kleons stuff all over you.

In early folklore and movies, Zombies were re-animated corpses, usually through VooDoo or witchcraft, which were slaves to their Master. They did what they were told even if that was murder.
As in the case of your 1950s movie, the Zombie's task apparently was to guard the diamonds which were stolen. As such, they went to get them back. Once the diamonds were retrieved, their task was done. So they went back to where they came from.

George Romero's 1968 classic Night of the Living Dead forever changed the role of Zombies in movies. Here the zombies are re-animated by other means and are independent creatures driven by the most basic of instincts, the need to eat.
Both Hollywood and the audiences found murderous, flesh eating zombies much scarier than simple dead slaves. So they ran with it and thus the creatures evolved into what we know as Zombies today.

shlike said:

OK. Let me try to explain this. A head shot will destroy the nanotubular network in the brain. The cerebellum and brainstem stop functioning and the undead become "re-dead". The viral particles may remain viable for weeks in the corpse but it cannot reanimate the corpse.

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And besides, exploding heads are great box office. Much better than dust flying out the zombie's back.

In the Return of the Living Dead, the zombies ate the brains of the living. This was the first of the post-Night of the Living Dead zombie movies (the James Russo sequels). Hence the need to destroy the brain of the zombie, as they are what they eat.

Or, exploding heads are just more fun.

Grayfox said:

In early folklore and movies, Zombies were re-animated corpses, usually through VooDoo or witchcraft, which were slaves to their Master. They did what they were told even if that was murder.
As in the case of your 1950s movie, the Zombie's task apparently was to guard the diamonds which were stolen. As such, they went to get them back. Once the diamonds were retrieved, their task was done. So they went back to where they came from.

George Romero's 1968 classic Night of the Living Dead forever changed the role of Zombies in movies. Here the zombies are re-animated by other means and are independent creatures driven by the most basic of instincts, the need to eat.
Both Hollywood and the audiences found murderous, flesh eating zombies much scarier than simple dead slaves. So they ran with it and thus the creatures evolved into what we know as Zombies today.

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The pre-Romero movies are, as Greyfox states, true to the Haitian source of the zombie legend, which became popular during the 1915-34 U.S. occupation of Haiti. These Haitian zombies were in a state of drug-induced suspended animation, forced to do the bidding of their masters (the "bokor"). This legend was popularized in Seabrook's book "The Magic Island" (1929) and the subsequent 1932 movie "White Zombie", starring Bela Lugosi. This source of the zombie legend gained new attention in 1983, when Harvard ethnobotanist Wade Davies published a paper which claimed the Haitian zombies were supposedly caused by the bokor using drugs (a mix of tetrodotoxin and datura) to dope a person, who then fell into a zombie-like state. The 1985 movie "Serpent and the Rainbow" is based on Davies' paper.

finesse_r said:

I mean it could be daughter that marries a Zombie and then how will you feel?

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She did and I went Dexter'ish on him.

The Russo films are the only ones I know of where the zombies specifly want to eat human brains. (I liked those movies btw) In other movies they will eat the whole body. I think that's pretty much true with most of the current film versions of zombies such as The Walking Dead.
But it is really cool to have them stumbling around muttering BRAAAIIIINS! and it has caught on in pop culture.

In the current versions, zombies are created when the virus reactivates the most primal portions of the brain. While the body is dead, it is re-animated by nerve impulses from this infected brain. They can't think or reason, they act only on the most basic instincts.
BTW: Zombies don't actually need to eat. They're dead and don't need the nurishment. Actually since the body is dead, it can't digest what they eat either. They eat only because its an ingrained instinct.
Zombies also don't feel pain. Bullets, knives, clubs, etc only have the effect of damaging already dead tissue. While it may slow them down or even cripple them, the zombies pay no attention to the damage and keep right on coming.
So they only way to "kill" a zombie, if kill is even the right word, is to destroy the infected brain.

Yeah, I know, I'm a bit of a sci-fi/horror geek. What can I say? I grew up on this stuff.

For those who may have interest in Zombies, I highly recommend Max Brooks' books "The Zombie Survival Guide" and "World War Z". Both are very entertaining reads.

World War Z

I strongly recommend the book World War Z. Frankly, I thought it would be idiotic, but it was actually quite good. Rather than being some stupid, blood and gore zombie book, it is really about modern society, our values and how we would survive and re-build in the face of a global catastrophe. It was written by the son of Mel Brooks and Anne Bancroft.

I read a story that they were sort of embarrassed that their son was writing zombie books until he brought home the check when he sold the movie rights and showed it to them. Mel Brooks said "I LOVE ZOMBIES!"

You don't zap Kleons with phasers. You zap Klingons. LL&P.

that first video by snubby was funny as heck