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Best .22LR Hunting Round
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Continental Op
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It seems to me that the choice in cartridge (.22LR) begs the ethics question. If the question originally posed was, "What's the best .223/.243/.308, etc. round for hunting coyotes?" then the ethics could be put aside and discussed separately. The fact is, that at the distance quoted, or any distance really, .22LR is not enough gun for a reliable humane kill on a coyote except with a headshot.
You have made your point not sure why you are so interested in draggin this further off topic. We are all aware fo your opinion thank you.
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Too many shooters choose 22 LR and I for one like those choices of more powerful rounds where obviously a better round for the job, that leave me with a few more boxes on the shelves of 22 LR each year for target plinking. ;>)
thardgrave
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I would suggest the .22 magnum for an absolute minimum, especially since he mentioned that he wanted it to group well at 70 yards. I believe the magnum has the same or more energy at 100 yards as the LR does at the muzzle.
Majorlk
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The "blue spring" models have been around for almost four years, so they really aren't new. Performance in semi-autos has always been iffy.
Majorlk
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You may not like it, but most hunters do consider the ethics of a quick kill to be of a real consideration in choosing a suitable round for hunting a particular animal.
5.56Spartan
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I am partial to the CCI Velocitors. They have functioned flawlessly and had some of my best groupings.
Here is an accuracy and chrono test I did a while back that covers a few of the rounds you are looking at.
Ammo testing w/ Chrono data
Hard to believe it has been a while since I did this test. Need to plan to head out again this spring with some of the new ammo I have picked up.
Here is an accuracy and chrono test I did a while back that covers a few of the rounds you are looking at.
Ammo testing w/ Chrono data
Hard to believe it has been a while since I did this test. Need to plan to head out again this spring with some of the new ammo I have picked up.
photoracer
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After having my late father drum into me the concept of one shot one kill or you don't take the shot I never use a .22 to do a job a .223 or 22-250 was designed to do. In fact I would kick someone off the farm I live on if I found them trying to shoot anything above a rat with a .22lr. The caliber I have taken the most ground hogs with is my 6.8 SPC II AR, firing Hornady 110g V-Max. I only do head shots. Have also used my Mossberg MVP .223 bolt gun using Win 50g Varmint loads.
I didnt say that I didnt like it...
I said it is NOT the topic of this post. I am not here to argue ethics Im here to gather information. To discuss ethics in this post is not the point.
Too many people feel that becouse they disagree they should have the ability to argue out their opinions. Im not here to do that and that isnt the topic of this post... For those interested I will make another post for tethics so all of the ethics preaching folks can post their thoughts.
Your entire post here is out of place it doesnt even cover any of my questions. In a nut shell it was useless other then you feel better becouse you got to voice your concerns. It didnt help this discussion at all.
Im sorry if I seem rude but I have been very respectul and Im not sure why these folks continue to try to drag this post off topic.
To put it plainly I dont care and didnt ask for anyones ethics opinions.
Obviusly Im taking head shots... Dugh....
Also, I want the rounds to group well out to 70 yards so I can have extra security on the shots Ill take. I think thats about the limit of my accuracy for groupings but my kill shots would probably be within 50 yards until I feel like I can do differently.
Again none of this has anything to do with my topic....
Get a .223
.22 LR seems a little light for anything but a squirrel . . .
Im not hunting on your farm Im not sure how that is even remotly relevant. However Im gad your father hammered in ethicss as a father myself I feel it is vital our yunger generation understands ethics. I never said I wasnt ethical but thanks for voicing your concerns and input even if they were off topic.
Since this is obviusly heading in an ethics direction here is a post I made so that all those with information on ethics they would like to enlighten me with can.....
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-15-22/410478-22lr-hunting-ethics.html#post138303278
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-15-22/410478-22lr-hunting-ethics.html#post138303278
MichiganScott
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The title of this thread is "Best 22LR Hunting Round". You proceed to define the game as coyote and bobcat at a max of 75 yards. The answer to your question is that apparently a number of the posters consider that there is no such thing as an adequate 22LR round that meets your requirements.
If we wish to discuss ethics, we can discuss head shot at 75 yards on animals with brains not much larger than a golf ball that are so well camouflaged that chances are you won't be able to see them unless they are moving. If they are moving, there is so such thing as a humane shot with a .22LR. Again, no round meets the requirements you present.
RhimFire
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I guess I am a little lost now. Being this is the Smith&Wesson site and this is the M&P15-22 subforum I assumed the OP was talking about the best round for hunting with a 15-22. Is this still the case or did I miss where the OP stated what firearm they are using?
Gopher Slayer
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Physics, probability, ethics...
Call it what you want, but you still need a bigger gun if you want to be certain you can make the kill.
If you feel the urge to shoot an animal regardless of the results I think any of those rounds will do.
Call it what you want, but you still need a bigger gun if you want to be certain you can make the kill.
If you feel the urge to shoot an animal regardless of the results I think any of those rounds will do.
Decipher
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It's good to see you opened another thread, but let me remind you that you posted a controversial topic on a public forum. You are not only going to get opinions you don't necessarily agree with, you are also getting relevant posts about the ethics of your proclaimed choice to shoot an inadequate round at an inappropriately sized animal. As hunters, the relevance IS on topic. While you may think you were being polite, your refusal to accept people's opinions as appropriate and your insistence on telling people to stop posting only further destroys your image of being a responsible gun owner and Hunter. Further telling people to stop posting is rude and not welcomed. You're new here so maybe you were expecting something else.
If you find yourself likely to be confronted by the animals you questioned, carry the appropriate weapon to address them. There is NO devastating round as you requested for the animals you are targeting. Otherwise, do your research quietly or be prepared for the backlash of responsible owners here who don't welcome your decision. Please and thank you.
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Accepting for the moment the OP's parameters, the relative difference of terminal effectiveness of any .22lr on a head shot on a coyote won't be signifigent. You will be dependant on absolute precise shot placement. So accuraccy is the criteria , and everything else is far second.
Unless one were seeking the eventual fatality of a coyote, then a mag dump into the lungs would eventualy bleed out.
While I don't hold that a rat is the upper limit for a .22lr, a large coyote @ 70yds is probably beyond the parameters except for an extreme survival situation.
Unless one were seeking the eventual fatality of a coyote, then a mag dump into the lungs would eventualy bleed out.
While I don't hold that a rat is the upper limit for a .22lr, a large coyote @ 70yds is probably beyond the parameters except for an extreme survival situation.
