Beretta 92FS INOX

BAM-BAM · Dec 10, 2015

Buy it............................

My first hi-cap 9mm was and still is my 1988/89 92F Compact........since then I've acquired several more 92s........ Elite II, Centurions, Inox (Full size and compacts), compacts and Type-M(single stack compact).

In 25+ years.... I've had one "failure to anything".... and that was a deformed reload that would not have fed into a .45..................

They work...........

If the 3913 didn't exist I would be carrying my Type-M as my everyday carry...... and a 92 Compact (13+1) instead of my PC 6906......I don't live in a war zone and the Smiths are just smaller and more convenient for IWB concealed carry.......if the SHTF I would in all likelyhood go to a 92 Centurion .....(17/18+1 with meg-gar mags.) OWB carry.

TTSH · Dec 17, 2015

Update...

TTSH said:
Thanks guys. By 2-tone, I assume you mean the "Made in USA" version of the 92FS INOX?

There is no super-immediate rush on this. I may put off the purchase until after Christmas just to avoid the current shopping rush. I would like to take a real close look at an Italian version just to make sure I am doing the right thing.

I'm getting a lot of feedback from friends telling me to wait, if I can, for an opportunity to snag an Italian-made example.

Some of the comments made here seem to agree.

It had looked like it might boil down price-wise to a brand new "Made in USA" vs. a slightly used "Made in Italy" due to local availability issues.

Honestly not sure yet which "look" I prefer... but as of last night, it does appear that I might be able to import a brand new "Made in Italy" example after all... total cost of that option still to be determined.

Stay tuned!

Whitwabit · Dec 24, 2015

I have a Beretta PX4 Sub Compact I love to shoot and on my Wish List is

mainegrw · Dec 24, 2015

Personally I prefer the Italian made Berettas with the blued finish, however, I have owned a couple of 92s over the last few years, and I never really noticed a difference in quality between the Italian made or USA made guns. The first 92 I had was a USA made 92FS B.A.T.S. Edition, with the all metal parts kit. Being a special edition (only 600 made) they had a slightly better fit and finish than a regular 92FS, but otherwise pretty much the same as any other. That gun shot wonderfully, and looked brand new from the day I purchased it, to the day I let it go. The second, the 92 I let the first go for was an Italian made, Beretta USA marked 92SB Compact Type M (1988 or 1989 vintage). This one has the single stack mags, and is one of the rarest of the 92 series to find. It had a lot of holster wear, and looks to be in rough shape, but still shoots like a champ. In fact, it was the condition that allowed me to have it so cheaply, good condition examples can go anywhere from $700 to $1000, I paid around $300, basically what the two included single stack mags are worth. It's hard to believe that after 27 years of use, abuse, and an untold number of rounds fed through her that everything is still as smooth and tight as the day she was made. The 92SB Compact type M may be my favorite handgun of all right behind the Smith and Wesson 39-2.

Either USA or Italian made, Brunition, blued, or INOX finish, Vertec or standard grip, you will be very happy with your new 92 whatever route you choose.

I will however offer that all of my local dealers tell me that the USA made guns are much higher quality, I don't know that I necessarily agree.

TTSH · Dec 25, 2015

Whitwabit said:
I have a Beretta PX4 Sub Compact I love to shoot and on my Wish List is...

... a 92FS INOX Compact with rail?

Very nice!

mainegrw said:
The 92SB Compact type M may be my favorite handgun of all right behind the Smith and Wesson 39-2.

Either USA or Italian made, Brunition, blued, or INOX finish, Vertec or standard grip, you will be very happy with your new 92 whatever route you choose.

I will however offer that all of my local dealers tell me that the USA made guns are much higher quality, I don't know that I necessarily agree.

If I could I'd own them all.

But finances and my moonbat state's laws, lists and regs say otherwise.

In fact, our anti-gun AG just sent an open letter to all MA dealers on Tuesday designed to intimidate and assure they do not sell anything that's not 100% to her liking according to her rules.

Her threat of audits and legal actions will likely have a chilling effect at least for the immediate future. In fact, it already has.

mainegrw · Dec 25, 2015

TTSH said:
If I could I'd own them all. But finances and my moonbat state's laws, lists and regs say otherwise. In fact, our anti-gun AG just sent an open letter to all MA dealers on Tuesday designed to intimidate and assure they do not sell anything that's not 100% to her liking according to her rules. Her threat of audits and legal actions will likely have a chilling effect at least for the immediate future. In fact, it already has.

And I thought we had it bad down here in CT... Seriously, with the exception of the last couple laws reclassifying certain guns as assault weapons, the CT permit system works very well once you have taken the time and spent the money to get the permit.

That said, I believe you mentioned you were from Massachusetts somewhere above. I don't know your proximity to the CT line, but another option for you is to purchase one in CT and have it transferred up to your local FFL. Beretta 92s and M9s are in no short supply at places like Cabelas in East Hartford, CT, or Hoffman's Guns in Newington, CT. I know that Cabelas does the transfer frequently for out of state purchasers, don't know about any of the other dealers around though.

TTSH · Dec 25, 2015

mainegrw said:
And I thought we had it bad down here in CT... Seriously, with the exception of the last couple laws reclassifying certain guns as assault weapons, the CT permit system works very well once you have taken the time and spent the money to get the permit.

That said, I believe you mentioned you were from Massachusetts somewhere above. I don't know your proximity to the CT line, but another option for you is to purchase one in CT and have it transferred up to your local FFL. Beretta 92s and M9s are in no short supply at places like Cabelas in East Hartford, CT, or Hoffman's Guns in Newington, CT. I know that Cabelas does the transfer frequently for out of state purchasers, don't know about any of the other dealers around though.

Well, a couple points: First, all MA FFL's must follow the MA EOPS list as far as what they can sell or transfer. They are further governed by the AG's regs (also known as the top secret unpublished list). A firearm is supposed to be on both lists for a MA FFL to be able to sell or transfer it legally. This latest move by our anti-gun AG is specifically intended to tighten up on the dealers. She'd love to put them all out of business if only she could.

But to be clear, that is not preventing me from buying a brand new US-Made Beretta 92FS INOX. It is preventing me from buying certain brand new Beretta 92-series variants that were recommended above. Beyond that, I don't want to get into the minutiae. It gets awfully complicated.

I can explain more off-line if you wish.

In regard to Cabela's specifically, let's just say they are having their difficulties with Massachusetts... and I'm going to leave it at that. But I will say this: If I did have an opportunity to import a particular gun I wanted, it would not be from a foreign Cabela's nor to our local MA Cabela's. It's nothing against them. I just have much better options.

TTSH · Jan 12, 2016

Just to close out this thread...

TTSH said:
I'm getting a lot of feedback from friends telling me to wait, if I can, for an opportunity to snag an Italian-made example. Some of the comments made here seem to agree.

It had looked like it might boil down price-wise to a brand new "Made in USA" vs. a slightly used "Made in Italy" due to local availability issues.

Honestly not sure yet which "look" I prefer... but as of last night, it does appear that I might be able to import a brand new "Made in Italy" example after all... total cost of that option still to be determined.

Stay tuned!

Just to close out this thread and put the issue to rest once and for all... I was finally able to do a side-by-side comparison between the USA-made vs. the Italy-made 92FS INOX. The USA-made one was brand new in box. The Italy-made one was slightly used with no box but in excellent condition, albeit considerably overpriced and with 15-round post-ban magazines (which I can't own). While I can't say which one is superior, I came away with a clear preference for the Italy-made version.

The problem is that I can't buy a brand new Italy-made version. For whatever reason, only the USA-made version is available. And even if I could find an Italy-made version in "as-new" shape that I could afford, it would probably come with 15-round post-ban magazines, adding additional complications and expense on top of shipping and transfer fees.

Bottom line: I'm "back burnering" the whole idea for now and sticking with my black 92FS. If/when the time comes that BerettaUSA starts importing the Italian version again, I'll be the first buyer in line. Until then, other possibilities beckon.

Tom_R · Jan 14, 2016

Look into a Sig Sauer P226 as well.

Berettas are great, if there are any used P226s out there, give one a look.

TTSH · Jan 14, 2016

Tom_R said:
Look into a Sig Sauer P226 as well.

Berettas are great, if there are any used P226s out there, give one a look.

Oh, I've always got my eye out for a great "deal" on a used P226.

Came very close twice... but no score yet. Seems like even the older style used ones are always $100 or so out of my reach.

We won't even talk about the new ones.

I shoot the loaner P226 at my indoor range about every third visit. Interestingly, I always thought I preferred the P229 until I did a side-by-side just this past Monday. The P226 came out a clear winner, at least as a range gun.

Whitwabit · Jan 14, 2016

TTSH said:
... a 92FS INOX Compact with rail? Very nice!

If I could I'd own them all. But finances and my moonbat state's laws, lists and regs say otherwise. In fact, our anti-gun AG just sent an open letter to all MA dealers on Tuesday designed to intimidate and assure they do not sell anything that's not 100% to her liking according to her rules. Her threat of audits and legal actions will likely have a chilling effect at least for the immediate future. In fact, it already has.

Yes the 92FS INOX Compact with rail is on my wish list .. don't know if I will ever see it in my hands .. Would love to shoot one .. But life is short ..

Tom_R · Jan 14, 2016

Another gun you should look into (what's the harm in looking?) is a CZ 75B or 85B.

They are affordable, and they are probably one of the best buys out there right now in terms of a quality firearm.

TTSH · Jan 15, 2016

Tom_R said:
Another gun you should look into (what's the harm in looking?) is a CZ 75B or 85B.

They are affordable, and they are probably one of the best buys out there right now in terms of a quality firearm.

Funny you should mention that.

While none of the CZ 75/85 family are MA-compliant (meaning no dealer sales, transfers or imports... even for cops), possession and private F-T-F sales are still allowed. The problem is that private sale CZ 75/85's typically go for HUGE money (up to double retail) in this crazy restricted state.

Prior to the recent "executive action" and a similar coordinated warning letter published by our anti-2A AG, I thought I was getting close on a possible CZ 75B purchase at a semi-reasonable price (for MA). However, those recent events have pushed up prices and pushed supply way down to an essentially impossible point.

Unless and until things calm back down, there won't be a CZ 75B in my collection anytime soon.

Whitwabit · Jan 15, 2016

TTSH said:
... a 92FS INOX Compact with rail? Very nice!

If I could I'd own them all. But finances and my moonbat state's laws, lists and regs say otherwise. In fact, our anti-gun AG just sent an open letter to all MA dealers on Tuesday designed to intimidate and assure they do not sell anything that's not 100% to her liking according to her rules. Her threat of audits and legal actions will likely have a chilling effect at least for the immediate future. In fact, it already has.

I agree I would own them all if had the finances don't allow me to do that either .. but I do like my S&W M&P 40c .. which is my carry gun .. I am able to own and carry any pistol and there aren't draconian laws as your state has as far as ownership of certain pistols ....

I have also carried the PX4 Sub-Compact but I need to have the BatWings changed out for the slimmer ones so the printing is better .. the wings also they seem to rub my arm even thru my clothing and irritates it somewhat ..

Whitwabit · Jan 15, 2016

TTSH said:
Funny you should mention that. While none of the CZ 75/85 family are MA-compliant (meaning no dealer sales, transfers or imports... even for cops), possession and private F-T-F sales are still allowed. The problem is that private sale CZ 75/85's typically go for HUGE money (up to double retail) in this crazy restricted state.

Prior to the recent "executive action" and a similar coordinated warning letter published by our anti-2A AG, I thought I was getting close on a possible CZ 75B purchase at a semi-reasonable price (for MA). However, those recent events have pushed up prices and pushed supply way down to an essentially impossible point.

Unless and until things calm back down, there won't be a CZ 75B in my collection anytime soon.

The CZ75b looks like the Beretta .. I have a Fratelli Tanfoglio TZ75 Series 88 .. bought it in 89 new and the smitty I bought it from had gone through and polished all the internals and set it up for his wife to shoot competitively with it .. she ended up buying something else and never fired it .. he had one exactly like it he shot competitively with so didn't want another and sold to me at cost .. not even charging me for the work he had done on it .. If you ever get a chance to shoot one please do as it is one of the sweetest shooters I have ever had the pleasure to shoot ..

The 3 pound trigger pull in mine keeps me from carrying it but is a great range gun .. The Series 88 came as a kit with an interchangeable barrel in 41AE and magazine .. looks just like this one .. mine is 95% with around 400 9mm rounds through it ..

TTSH · Jan 15, 2016

Whitwabit said:
The CZ75b looks like the Beretta .. I have a Fratelli Tanfoglio TZ75 Series 88 .. bought it in 89 new and the smitty I bought it from had gone through and polished all the internals and set it up for his wife to shoot competitively with it .. she ended up buying something else and never fired it .. he had one exactly like it he shot competitively with so didn't want another and sold to me at cost .. not even charging me for the work he had done on it .. If you ever get a chance to shoot one please do as it is one of the sweetest shooters I have ever had the pleasure to shoot ..

The 3 pound trigger pull in mine keeps me from carrying it but is a great range gun .. The Series 88 came as a kit with an interchangeable barrel in 41AE and magazine .. looks just like this one .. mine is 95% with around 400 9mm rounds through it.

The "opportunity" I referred to above to possibly obtain a CZ 75B also included the alternate "opportunity" of going with a Tanfoglio clone instead (one or the other but not both). It's been an ongoing question in my mind which might have been better.

Part of me says to stick with the original and part of me says to go Italian!

It's a moot point now and for the immediate future but the question is going to come up again someday before I'm pushing up daisies I am sure.

I have no basis to make that decision other than what I read on the Interwebs as no one I know owns both. I've tried to examine both pistols in out-of-state shops, but that can be a real challenge once they figure out that you can't actually buy anything there.

Mostly, all I can do is look, drool, go home empty handed and scan the Interwebs again.

Tom_R · Jan 15, 2016

TTSH said:
Funny you should mention that. While none of the CZ 75/85 family are MA-compliant (meaning no dealer sales, transfers or imports... even for cops), possession and private F-T-F sales are still allowed. The problem is that private sale CZ 75/85's typically go for HUGE money (up to double retail) in this crazy restricted state.

Prior to the recent "executive action" and a similar coordinated warning letter published by our anti-2A AG, I thought I was getting close on a possible CZ 75B purchase at a semi-reasonable price (for MA). However, those recent events have pushed up prices and pushed supply way down to an essentially impossible point.

Unless and until things calm back down, there won't be a CZ 75B in my collection anytime soon.

And I thought my home state of CT was lousy. Well it is, but I didn't realize MA was as bad as it is.

TTSH · Jan 15, 2016

Tom_R said:
And I thought my home state of CT was lousy. Well it is, but I didn't realize MA was as bad as it is.

They are both awful, but in different ways. I can own stuff you can't... and you can own stuff I can't. Pretty weird, heh?

Whitwabit · Jan 15, 2016

TTSH said:
The "opportunity" I referred to above to possibly obtain a CZ 75B also included the alternate "opportunity" of going with a Tanfoglio clone instead (one or the other but not both). It's been an ongoing question in my mind which might have been better. Part of me says to stick with the original and part of me says to go Italian! It's a moot point now and for the immediate future but the question is going to come up again someday before I'm pushing up daisies I am sure. I have no basis to make that decision other than what I read on the Interwebs as no one I know owns both. I've tried to examine both pistols in out-of-state shops, but that can be a real challenge once they figure out that you can't actually buy anything there. Mostly, all I can do is look, drool, go home empty handed and scan the Interwebs again.

You can feel the quality when you hold or shoot the TZ75 .. The Italian's make some very high quality pistols .. and is evident if you have the opportunity to acquire one ..

TTSH · Jan 16, 2016

Whitwabit said:
You can feel the quality when you hold or shoot the TZ75 .. The Italian's make some very high quality pistols .. and is evident if you have the opportunity to acquire one ..

Well, I certainly love my Italian 92FS. It's one of the nicest range shooters I own.

Let's face it: I'd be very happy with either a CZ 75B or a Tanfoglio in the collection.

Neither is MA-compliant. Neither can be sold, imported or transferred by a MA dealer. The exception to that dealer rule would be a gun that was legally owned and registered in MA before 1998... i.e., a "pre-list" gun with a MA pedigree. Private F-T-F sales are not affected by compliance requirements other than the AWB (10 round magazines max if post-ban).

It's rare but I have seen used Tanfoglio pistols for sale in Massachusetts. Most are very used looking.

I've yet to come across a 9mm (or .45ACP) in good enough condition and at a low enough price that I could go for it.

Such is life in moonbat Massachusetts. But another "opportunity" will come around again someday I am sure.

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