John Ford's RIO GRANDE

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Actually it's John Ford and Merian C. Cooper's (a very interesting individual) RIO GRANDE but whichever it has become one of my favorite John Wayne movies.

It was actually kind of a "throw away" movie. Ford apparently agreed to make it only in order to secure funding for "The Quiet Man" but the movie turned out to be quite good and was one of a trio of John Ford-John Wayne cavalry movies of the period. The other two were "Fort Apache" and "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon"

It's the story of a tough cavalry commander, who's estranged son shows up as a recruit to his command, followed very shortly by the estranged wife (Maureen O'Hara in her first movie with Wayne). They are estranged for one small problem, Wayne and his Sgt Major (played very well by Victor McLagLen) burned her plantation as part of Sheridan's Shenandoah Campaign (Sheridan played by the excellent character actor J. Carroll Niash).

Wayne's current fight is with the Apache Indians and the movie's name refers to the geographic boundary which limits the cavalry but is crossed with impunity by the Indians.

The supporting cast is extremely talented and includes three actors playing some risk-taking recruits (two up and coming cowboy actors and one young promising star who was successful later in life, just not as an actor). Their scenes together are a large part of what makes this movie so great.

Music plays a role in this movie, but like many westerns which feature firearms which usually found a bit later in actual history, some of the songs came many years later. In an early scene showing the arrival of the new recruits they are singing "You're in the Army Now" which dates to about 1917.

Another such song, sung very well by a future member of the Gunsmoke cast and the Sons of the Pioneers is "Down by the Glenside (the Bold Fenian Men). This song actually dates to around 1916. It comes at the end of a formal dinner with Wayne, his officers, his wife, and General Sheridan. If you look closely, Wayne's character is wearing the Civil War Medal of Honor.

Everytime I watch this movie I seem to catch another scene which adds some depth of story-telling and character development. I just about know this movie by heart but I still like to sit down with a cup of coffee and go watch this story unfold.

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"Wayne's current fight is with the Apache Indians and the movie's name refers to the geographic boundary which limits the cavalry but is crossed with impunity by the Indians."

That part of the movie actually happened - or something much like it. The old Indian fighter Col. Ranald Mackenzie led his raiders across the Rio Grande into Mexico after marauding Indians. In 1873 Mackenzie was assigned to Fort Clark TX to put an end to the plunder of Texas livestock by Indian raiders operating from Mexico. On May 18, in an extralegal raid, he burned a Kickapoo village near Remolino, Coahuila, and returned with forty captives. The raids stopped. I think there is a lesson from that.

I have a second home at Fort Clark east of Del Rio (decommissioned after WWII), and from where Mackenzie launched the Remolino raid. Many old Indian fighters served at Fort Clark, along with later military luminaries such as George Patton and Jonathan Wainwright. Their homes on Fort Clark still exist and are occupied by private owners.
 
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I really enjoy the John Ford movies, like this one, with Ben Johnson and Harry Carey Jr. in them. Also, I think Ken Curtis was Ford's son-in-law. I could be wrong.
 
Actually it's John Ford and Merian C. Cooper's (a very interesting individual) RIO GRANDE but whichever it has become one of my favorite John Wayne movies.

It was actually kind of a "throw away" movie. Ford apparently agreed to make it only in order to secure funding for "The Quiet Man" but the movie turned out to be quite good and was one of a trio of John Ford-John Wayne cavalry movies of the period. The other two were "Fort Apache" and "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon"

It's the story of a tough cavalry commander, who's estranged son shows up as a recruit to his command, followed very shortly by the estranged wife (Maureen O'Hara in her first movie with Wayne). They are estranged for one small problem, Wayne and his Sgt Major (played very well by Victor McLagLen) burned her plantation as part of Sheridan's Shenandoah Campaign (Sheridan played by the excellent character actor J. Carroll Niash).

Wayne's current fight is with the Apache Indians and the movie's name refers to the geographic boundary which limits the cavalry but is crossed with impunity by the Indians.

The supporting cast is extremely talented and includes three actors playing some risk-taking recruits (two up and coming cowboy actors and one young promising star who was successful later in life, just not as an actor). Their scenes together are a large part of what makes this movie so great.

Music plays a role in this movie, but like many westerns which feature firearms which usually found a bit later in actual history, some of the songs came many years later. In an early scene showing the arrival of the new recruits they are singing "You're in the Army Now" which dates to about 1917.

Another such song, sung very well by a future member of the Gunsmoke cast and the Sons of the Pioneers is "Down by the Glenside (the Bold Fenian Men). This song actually dates to around 1916. It comes at the end of a formal dinner with Wayne, his officers, his wife, and General Sheridan. If you look closely, Wayne's character is wearing the Civil War Medal of Honor.

Everytime I watch this movie I seem to catch another scene which adds some depth of story-telling and character development. I just about know this movie by heart but I still like to sit down with a cup of coffee and go watch this story unfold.

Rio Grande - Rio Bravo (1950) Trailer - YouTube

Rio Grande - Down By The Glenside (Those Bold Finnian Men) - YouTube

My favorite of the ""Cavalry trilogy"" then it's Fort Apache followed by: The Horse Soldiers. I KNOW THS aint one of the trilogy--since its She Wore a Yellow Ribbon-which is good, but not great. Anyway, ive got a couple nice original promo stills for this movie.
This is a copy of one of em:
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This one is kinda akin to the other one:
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Oh and I have this-a-one as well:
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I always did enjoy J. Carroll Naish (General Sheridan) in anything he was in-one of the best character actors--ever.
 
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I really enjoy the John Ford movies, like this one, with Ben Johnson and Harry Carey Jr. in them. Also, I think Ken Curtis was Ford's son-in-law. I could be wrong.

I think at the beginning of this movie-there was a tribute to Harry Carey Sr. who had just recently died--or either it was featured in: Three Godfathers......

The tribute said "Harry Carey Sr. Bright star in the early western sky."
 
Yep Ken Curtis was quite a singer. Ben Johnson was great as he usually was; man could he ride a horse.

Johnson was a world rodeo champion before getting his feet wet in making movies. I saw him in Bandera eating at the Old Spanish Trail restaurant--back in the mid 80s. His table was full of the famed-but nobody bothered them treating them like normal strangers.
 
Johnson was a world rodeo champion before getting his feet wet in making movies. I saw him in Bandera eating at the Old Spanish Trail restaurant--back in the mid 80s. His table was full of the famed-but nobody bothered them treating them like normal strangers.

Hate to put you on the spot-
But-
I just have to ask-
Who was with Ben Johnson out at Bandera?
The last time I lived in SA I lived off Bandera Road.
For you non -Texas types, oft times the TX roads are named for the town they are headed to.
 
Hate to put you on the spot-
But-
I just have to ask-
Who was with Ben Johnson out at Bandera?
The last time I lived in SA I lived off Bandera Road.
For you non -Texas types, oft times the TX roads are named for the town they are headed to.

Or the ranch. Or roads between ranches. Many streets in San Antonio are named for ranches that existed in those areas before the city built out so far.
 
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This is one of those movies that has it all. The men, the horses, the guns, the music and the lady. It was originally black and white but has been colorized. The Sons of the Pioneers have continued as a singing group with obvious personnel changes throughout the years and still perform in Branson, Missouri. Their sound achieved in that movie is excellent! And yes, Ben Johnson could ride a horse.
 
Hate to put you on the spot-
But-
I just have to ask-
Who was with Ben Johnson out at Bandera?
The last time I lived in SA I lived off Bandera Road.
For you non -Texas types, oft times the TX roads are named for the town they are headed to.

From what I remember--they were: George Strait--who lives in San Antonio--Dean Smith--another rodeo star turned actor=--he lived in Bandera and I actually witnessed his funeral procession not knowing he'd died, Willie NNelson and I forget whom else.
 

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