Lousy firearms portrayal on NCIS...

Joni_Lynn said:
In one of the tv shows I watch a guy got shot in the neck. The examiner said it's not a 9mm, it was a 380.
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Of course, "everyone knows" .380 is tiny, and 9mm must be... I dunno... something like .90 caliber - that's why they call it a nine - and makes holes you can put a fist in.

It just slays me when some TV hero "expertly" glances at an entry wound and pronounces it as a "9mm" or whatever among a choice of commonly used .38, 9mm, .380, 357.
 
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Sevens said:
Who, in any level or style of LE, military included, drops their sidearm in the desk all day long and only retrieves it when they need to leave the building?! IMO, that's ludicrous.
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I'll tell you who, the FBI, that's who. Mostly you only hear about such things if you are in law enforcement.

About 40 years ago three FBI Agents in the Salt Lake City office walked across the street to the bank and walked into an armed robbery in progress! Where were their guns? All of them were across the street in their desks in the FBI office in the Federal Building!!! Now that's ludicrous, but true.:D:D:D

FBI regulations required them to be armed at all times.:mad: Unfortunately all "Professionals" do not always conduct themselves in a "professional manner".
 
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I've given up on expecting accurate movie depictions of firearm use...

Wildly exaggerated muzzle flashes...total lack of recoil...endless ammo supply...full-auto weapons...sloppy or unsafe gun handling...and on and on...it's the norm, not the exception.

There are some bright spots. The film "The Great Raid" (about the successful rescue of 500 POWs in the Philippines in WW2) had Dale Dye in it, and featured spot-on weapons handling, right down to the open bolts on the actors' Thompson submachine guns. But that was one in a million...
 
At least one episode of, Sea Patrol had a Royal Australian Navy officer approach a bunker where they thought the bad guy was and the hammer of her Browning was down. And they often subbed CZ 9mm's for the Brownings.
 
According to the show, Gibbs went from his issue SIG .40 S&W to his Daddies 1911. But if his Daddy was a P-51 pilot his issue gun would have been a S&W Victory or Colt Commando, BUT it could have been a private purchase by an Officer and Gentleman.
Major changes for NCIS, Abby is leaving, Ducky is on leave, and the cute girl has been dropped. And McGee grew a beard. New characters to come.
Geoff
Who noted the hammer down in several episodes.
 
My wife watches this show for hours on end. I don't watch it, I just retire to the music/reloading room and watch you tube.

Have a blessed day,

Leon
 
Beemerguy53 said:
I've given up on expecting accurate movie depictions of firearm use...

Wildly exaggerated muzzle flashes...total lack of recoil...endless ammo supply....
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Read an article about this a little while ago. The way the article explained it is that it depends on the situation. Obviously even the movie industry has to follow the law so some of the special effects are added when the gun used is fake. It will either be a solid one piece look a like or one with movable parts but not capable of firing. Slide and hammer can move.

The 2ndr reason for this is some actors have felony convictions and by law cannot have/hold/use a real firearm.

And the 3rd reason is budget! Even popular shows can only afford so much. If you saw the movie Deadpool there is a scene where the character packs a duffle bag full of guns for the last big showdown but forgets it in the taxi! The reason for that was ... BUDGET! They couldn't afford to rent those guns for too long. If they can't afford guns or realistic looking replicas you get 1980s special effects!

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I don't watch NCIS, or most fantasy cop shows.

We usually pick a sitcom, and watch it back to back, even if we have already watched it. Good TV is good TV, mediocre TV is just that. Lately we have been watching Home Improvement, almost to the last season.
 
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Looks like Ducky / David McCallum is leaving the show this season as of the last episode and Paulie Perrette / Abby is not returning for next season.
Seems like they're all starting to jump ship? :confused:
I can understand McCallum leaving and finally wanting to retire?:cool:
I have enjoyed watching this and believe as with the Law and Order series has run its course! ;)
 
It's a television show. It isn't real. The average viewer doesn't know one gun from another, and probably cares even less about authenticity or whether or not the gun's being used properly.
 
As an aside current real NCIS director Andrew Traver was in Denver speaking at Metropolitan State University on Thursday. He was formerly in Denver when he was the ATF SAC.

He talked a little about the show and how it's raised the agency's profile but mostly how much different it is working for NCIS compared to ATF.

And yes, Gibbs should know better with a 1911!! :D
 
during the few years I was a Defective, when settling in for a long series of interviews, or worse, a long period of report writing, I would drop my 228 in a desk drawer, because the chair arms didn't really permit me ,my weapon, a double mag pouch, all between them.
 
Skeptic 9c said:
According to the show, Gibbs went from his issue SIG .40 S&W to his Daddies 1911. But if his Daddy was a P-51 pilot his issue gun would have been a S&W Victory or Colt Commando, BUT it could have been a private purchase by an Officer and Gentleman.
Major changes for NCIS, Abby is leaving, Ducky is on leave, and the cute girl has been dropped. And McGee grew a beard. New characters to come.
Geoff
Who noted the hammer down in several episodes.
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A P-51 pilot WOULD have been issued a .45! The Mustamg was an Army AF plane! You're thinking of Navy and USMC pilots and planes. And they could have probably gotten a .45 if they really preferred one. Until after the battle of Midway in 1942, they wouldn't likely have had the .38 option. It took a few months to make the guns and get them to ships.

When I was about 12, I looked through a lot of old Natl. Geographics and the Navy airmen at that time (mid--1942) were shown wearing .45's. By late 1942, that had probably changed.

When was Kennedy's PT-109 sunk? He had a .38 Victory Model,so the guns had certainly arrived in theater by then. I think production began in April, 1942?
 
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I'm thinking of a picture of my Dad's boyhood friend Lenny Solomon next to his P-51 ETO, with a revolver in his shoulder holster.
Geoff
Who was young, but not that young, I'd been subscribed to Guns & Hunting for two years.
 
Sevens said:
...Who, in any level or style of LE, military included, drops their sidearm in the desk all day long and only retrieves it when they need to leave the building?!
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That's what I did. I had to be different. I carried my S&W 696, and I kept it in my desk drawer when I was at work. A 696 is a little awkward when sitting in a chair. Also, I just never thought I would need it on the third floor of the building. I also kept it in a locked drawer in my office when I went to court. If there was an incident in the court house, then let the Bailiffs handle it.

During my entire career, there were only two times I came close to drawing my gun, and neither time was on the third floor of the building.
 
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