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SIG P210
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SWEET is that a new model?????
Yeah, they aren't in the same ballpark as the Swiss models (especially the older Swiss models) from a quality and construction standpoint, but they do shoot just as well or really close at least out to 25 yards or so.
They also cost a small fraction of what a used P210-6 will. I don't buy American Sigs, but if I did I might pick one up as range toy.
Here are mine...
bamabiker
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To the OP, nice Sig and I like the Yellowhorse knives also.
Yes, I wanted to say the same thing.
The new ones should be called something different. Then, maybe we can take them for what they are, ie: a P226 in disguise. As it is, I'll pass on them....for what they aren't!
As for the cost of the old ones....well, just as there's a reason a pre-war Registered Magnum is in a different league than a 27-2, there's a reason the Neuhausen P210s outclass not only the new ones but also the commercial SIG cnc ones from the 90s.
Jim
nachogrande
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I THROW IN THE TOWEL.
YOU WIN! Very nice collection.
YOU WIN! Very nice collection.
bobbyd
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Best ammo in mine has been Swiss made GECO from Murphy's ammo in West Monroe La.
Absalom
SWCA Member, Absent Comrade
Not to nitpick, but GECO ammo, an old German brand (Gustav Genschow 1887), is manufactured by RUAG Ammotec of Fürth, Germany. They are, however, indeed a subsidiary of RUAG Switzerland. Okay, yes, a nitpick
Not to nitpick, but GECO ammo, an old German brand (Gustav Genschow 1887), is manufactured by RUAG Ammotec of Fürth, Germany. They are, however, indeed a subsidiary of RUAG Switzerland. Okay, yes, a nitpick
The 9mm is made there. GECO is now having their branded ammo made in so many different factories, that I am loosing track of it. I do believe, that the 9mm Luger was made in Switzerland, though. At least for a while.
Back to the real SIG P210: I just bought another P210-4 to replace the one that I had given to my son.
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I have a new one and have shot it, far more accurate than I am. A good choice for center fire in composite pistol at a club level. If I were to spend thousands on a Sig, it would be a S&W 952.
In the past, the GECO 9mm 124 grain FMJs in the red and black boxes had indeed been made in Switzerland with steel-jacketed bullets like their arsenal ammo - at least what is left of mine was. The newer stuff in blue and black boxes does not appear to be Swiss. You have to check into what you are buying, both by reading and with a magnet.
I have a P210-2. My handloads will usually outshoot the red and black GECO 9mm 124 grain FMJs. This is with inexpensive Montana Gold bullets. With the best 9mm bullets available, I think handloads might do so by a considerable margin - maybe?
I have a P210-2. My handloads will usually outshoot the red and black GECO 9mm 124 grain FMJs. This is with inexpensive Montana Gold bullets. With the best 9mm bullets available, I think handloads might do so by a considerable margin - maybe?
I have made the same experience as M29since14 when it comes to wringing out the last bit of accuracy from my P210s that reloads are yielding better results than most factory loads. I had best results with 124 gr SAKO FMJ but also hard cast 125gr LTC worked surprisingly well and that despite the fact that SIG had a twist rate of 1 : 250mm for the standard barrels and 1 : 500mm for the lead barrels.
Very nice! I have an older one, actually a made-for-Denmark P49, and wouldn’t mind having a Legend also for the improved ergonomics. The old P210 is a combination of joy and pain to shoot. In spite of the reputation some pistols have, the P210 is the one that bites my hand.
As far as ammo goes, I don’t know what yours will prefer but you will likely be able to try anything you want. To my surprise, mine has fed and functioned with anything I’ve tried. Jacketed RN and hollowpoints, cast in RN, three kinds of SWC, various cast HP, and believe it or not- cast wadcutters. (Yes, Lyman once made a button-nosed 9mm wadcutter mould, the 140 grain 356472.) I would’ve bet against that functioning. The fact the gun was designed and made long before anything but FMJ-RN was available in 9mm makes that a surprise, but it also has the steepest feed ramp I’ve ever seen on a pistol. It’s more like a “feed wall”.
BTW, I’ve slugged the barrels of a lot of 9mm pistols to check the actual bore diameter. While everyone “knows” 9mm bores are .355, most I’ve checked run more like .356-.357, with the occasional one as large as .358.
My P210 is the only one I’ve checked that was .355. I have to wonder if that helps with the accuracy reputation. It can’t hurt.
As far as ammo goes, I don’t know what yours will prefer but you will likely be able to try anything you want. To my surprise, mine has fed and functioned with anything I’ve tried. Jacketed RN and hollowpoints, cast in RN, three kinds of SWC, various cast HP, and believe it or not- cast wadcutters. (Yes, Lyman once made a button-nosed 9mm wadcutter mould, the 140 grain 356472.) I would’ve bet against that functioning. The fact the gun was designed and made long before anything but FMJ-RN was available in 9mm makes that a surprise, but it also has the steepest feed ramp I’ve ever seen on a pistol. It’s more like a “feed wall”.
BTW, I’ve slugged the barrels of a lot of 9mm pistols to check the actual bore diameter. While everyone “knows” 9mm bores are .355, most I’ve checked run more like .356-.357, with the occasional one as large as .358.
My P210 is the only one I’ve checked that was .355. I have to wonder if that helps with the accuracy reputation. It can’t hurt.
Daimler1989
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In the past, the GECO 9mm 124 grain FMJs in the red and black boxes had indeed been made in Switzerland with steel-jacketed bullets like their arsenal ammo - at least what is left of mine was. The newer stuff in blue and black boxes does not appear to be Swiss. You have to check into what you are buying, both by reading and with a magnet.
I have a P210-2. My handloads will usually outshoot the red and black GECO 9mm 124 grain FMJs. This is with inexpensive Montana Gold bullets. With the best 9mm bullets available, I think handloads might do so by a considerable margin - maybe?
the 9mm 124 grs FMJ stuff Geco sells in Germany is mostly made in Hungary. At least for the last 2 years or so. It's some of the cheapest you can get here....
BTW: I own a 210-4, made by Hämmerlie Tiengen in the mid-90s as a 500 piece special batch starting with serials #6001, consecutive numbered to the German Border Police -4s with serials up to #6000, made by SIG Neuhausen in the early 1950s. I can notice no significant difference in quality. But when I handled a SIG sauer P210 legend a while ago, I could.... I would always prefer a used one 210 to a SIG Sauer made new one, no matter if German or US.
regards from Germany
ulrich
Ah, another step down even.
For sure Andy
The German Mastershop models are pretty decent. Not like the Swiss guns, but decent.
As good as the 952 is, and I own multiples, it’s no vintage Swiss P210 from a quality standpoint. They are very well made, but the P210 is on another level.
The 952 is one of my favorite pistols and I shoot them as good if not better than my P210’s. However, very, very few handguns can match an old P210 from a parts quality and construction standpoint. They are about as good as it gets.
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