Interesting! I'll probably only use the "normal" trigger mode.
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7.62x39mm Range?
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Interesting! I'll probably only use the "normal" trigger mode.
7.62 x 39 is nearly equal a 9mm carbine????
OMG! How could anybody spout out such a mouthful of malarkey!
No need to bring out Chronos. Anybody that has seen and shot both doesn't even have to address this.
OMG! How could anybody spout out such a mouthful of malarkey!
No need to bring out Chronos. Anybody that has seen and shot both doesn't even have to address this.
THe AK47 could be looked at as the "modern equivalent of a No 1 Mk III SMLE" except for the range. Can be immersed in mud, washed out however you wish, shake it a few times, make certain no mud in the bore and then it will launch 20 rounds down range (up to 300 m) either auto or semi-auto. The SMLE has 10 rounds and is bolt operated but will launch out to 1000 m. Now if in urban combat, I will take the AK even though the SMLE of that vintage had a 17 inch bayonet on the end!! Dave_n
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Simplified version :
Take whatever you consider the effective range of 9x19 carbine
Multiply by 2.5 , and you have a conservative estimate of 7.62x39 effective range . ( probably closer to 3x , but being conservative .)
Take whatever you consider the effective range of 9x19 carbine
Multiply by 2.5 , and you have a conservative estimate of 7.62x39 effective range . ( probably closer to 3x , but being conservative .)
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At shorter ranges my Ruger American Ranch in 7.62 is very accurate, the short barrel making it an ideal brush gun and using mini 30 mags is a plus, and my Norinco Hunter with the long barrel is very accurate as well (at least as good as it gets with old eyes and iron sights).
Don’t confuse trajectory with impact. Even if the two have similar trajectories they don’t have the same energy
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I've worked with the 7.62x39 cartridge in four rifles, two SKSs and two Ruger bolt-actions since the early '90s. I've used many bullets, jacketed from about 110 grains to 170, and cast from about 150 grains to around 220.
The 7.62 x39 is an accurate cartridge (particularly in a bolt-action gun) that produces minimal recoil and also pretty minimal performance in comparison with many other cartridges. It'll work for deer, hogs, self-defense, etc., but there are better choices. Same for trajectory. I suppose you could even make it into a long-range cartridge as some here seem to have attempted, but that's more of a stunt than something of practical value.
Regardless, we all have different tastes and interests in guns and cartridges and that's good. I still enjoy shooting my lone 7.62 x 39 Ruger bolt-action with 200 grain cast hollow point bullets.
The 7.62 x39 is an accurate cartridge (particularly in a bolt-action gun) that produces minimal recoil and also pretty minimal performance in comparison with many other cartridges. It'll work for deer, hogs, self-defense, etc., but there are better choices. Same for trajectory. I suppose you could even make it into a long-range cartridge as some here seem to have attempted, but that's more of a stunt than something of practical value.
Regardless, we all have different tastes and interests in guns and cartridges and that's good. I still enjoy shooting my lone 7.62 x 39 Ruger bolt-action with 200 grain cast hollow point bullets.
ColbyBruce
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So, did the OP pick up his CZ?
The 7.62x39 is not an inherently inaccurate cartridge. It does have limits on its useful range and those limits are very similar to the .30-30 cartridge. What gives the 7.62x39 a bad reputation is the firearms that are most associated with the cartridge. The SKS and AK were designed as combat weapons. They have loose tolerances so that they will continue to function when very dirty and under extreme conditions. Much of the ammo available is mass produced at minimal cost, again, not conducive to precision accuracy. All those loose tolerances, combined with a thin barrel and cheap ammo, plus crude sights make for a firearm that is less than a precision instrument in terms of accuracy. It's not the cartridge at fault, it's the firearm.
muddocktor
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Indeed it's not a bad cartridge at all. It was used as the parent cartridge for the .220 Russian, which was used as the parent cartridge of the .22 PPC, 6mm PPC and 6.5mm Grendel cartridges.
Tex1001
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Wander around the firearms internet and you'll find no shortage of experts who should keep their mouths shut.
smoothshooter
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You must define the term " range ".
Do you want to know how far the bullet will travel before it hits the ground when the rifle barrel is elevated at the optimal angle, or the max range it will penetrate a one inch thick pine board, or how far it will fairly reliably put down a deer or human being with a decent hit?
Do you want to know how far the bullet will travel before it hits the ground when the rifle barrel is elevated at the optimal angle, or the max range it will penetrate a one inch thick pine board, or how far it will fairly reliably put down a deer or human being with a decent hit?
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ky wonder
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I own one 7.62x39 rifle I gave it to my daughter as her deer rifle, lord the things that girl did to that poor H&R handi rifle.
crafty daughters
other than a shorter case, and pointier bullet, in my opinion its basically ballisticly a 30-30 Winchester clone, flight patterns and velocity are almost identical, with the energy nod going to the heavier old west round, that said ive dropped whitetails in their tracts with the old round at 275 yards, at that range the old girl is still delivering more energy than a 230 pill out of a 1911 at the muzzle
being a pretty easy fellow to get along with, I have heard some pretty stupid stuff coming out of the mouth of grown men who swear to seeing things or owning guns that defy Physics
recently had a guy tell me he could and had kill a deer at 1500 yds with his old #4 enfield fake #5 carbine with open sights.
I just asked him was their any powder burns left on the entrance wounds, according to him there was, I lifted my feet to another level higher on the stool I was setting on
crafty daughters
other than a shorter case, and pointier bullet, in my opinion its basically ballisticly a 30-30 Winchester clone, flight patterns and velocity are almost identical, with the energy nod going to the heavier old west round, that said ive dropped whitetails in their tracts with the old round at 275 yards, at that range the old girl is still delivering more energy than a 230 pill out of a 1911 at the muzzle
being a pretty easy fellow to get along with, I have heard some pretty stupid stuff coming out of the mouth of grown men who swear to seeing things or owning guns that defy Physics
recently had a guy tell me he could and had kill a deer at 1500 yds with his old #4 enfield fake #5 carbine with open sights.
I just asked him was their any powder burns left on the entrance wounds, according to him there was, I lifted my feet to another level higher on the stool I was setting on
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I've owned SKS's for years , I have a Paratrooper (16inch barrelled) and a full sized model , both Norinco .. I have taken several whitetails with the paratrooper..
Last year I bought a Ruger American ranch carbine in 7.62x39 ... Sweet little carbine ..
Last year I bought a Ruger American ranch carbine in 7.62x39 ... Sweet little carbine ..
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