They moved their U.S. facility to Bainbridge, Georgia in late 2019.
Taurus vs. Smith
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Has nothing to do with Taurus. It could have been a bleeping Arminius or a light Korth (if they made one). It's a relationship between the overall quality of the crimp, the momentum of the load, and the weight of the revolver. The revolver weighs what it weighs, so you're dealing with ammo. Makes no difference who made the revolver, or whether you weighed the revolver in metric or English units.
That's all, folks.
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Fuch
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I'm not putting myself forth as a subject expert, but I can't see where this is a "gun" problem. Bullets "walking" out are caused by recoil and the crimp or lack of a proper one.
I have 3 Taurus revolvers, 2 Model 431 .44 Specials and a Model 905 9mm, and all 3 work flawlessly. The fit and finish is first-rate on each, too. I really like the .44s - kind of a "poor man's S&W 696" with fixed sights. And the 9mm I got since S&W 940s are so hard to find and impossible to find at a reasonable price. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend any of them.
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Between myself and my family members, I have experience with a total of five Taurus brand firearms, and all have proven 100% reliable.
One of which is a Taurus 605 which my mother carries, and it has never had any issues whatsoever.
I've said it before and I'll say it forever, in terms of overall Quality Control, I estimate that Taurus is no worse than Ruger. The difference is that Ruger has some of the best Customer Service in the industry, while Taurus has some of the worst, so folks who get a lemon typically end up with a far less satisfactory experience dealing with Taurus and walk away with a decidedly negative opinion of the brand.
That being said, I only own a single Taurus firearm myself, a Taurus Judge Magnum, and while it hasn't been any trouble, I have no plans of purchasing any more firearms from Taurus, (although I have been tempted by the PT92 and Rossi R92) namely because their prices just aren't that much lower than the competition anymore, and on the off chance that I might end up with a lemon, I would rather not have to deal with their Customer Service department. So I'll opt to spend a bit more on another brand like Ruger or Smith & Wesson going forward.
One of which is a Taurus 605 which my mother carries, and it has never had any issues whatsoever.
I've said it before and I'll say it forever, in terms of overall Quality Control, I estimate that Taurus is no worse than Ruger. The difference is that Ruger has some of the best Customer Service in the industry, while Taurus has some of the worst, so folks who get a lemon typically end up with a far less satisfactory experience dealing with Taurus and walk away with a decidedly negative opinion of the brand.
That being said, I only own a single Taurus firearm myself, a Taurus Judge Magnum, and while it hasn't been any trouble, I have no plans of purchasing any more firearms from Taurus, (although I have been tempted by the PT92 and Rossi R92) namely because their prices just aren't that much lower than the competition anymore, and on the off chance that I might end up with a lemon, I would rather not have to deal with their Customer Service department. So I'll opt to spend a bit more on another brand like Ruger or Smith & Wesson going forward.
Regarding your last sentence, I agree and also prefer that they all be made in the good 'ol USA. Quality still matters.
To me it doesn’t matter if a company is having production problems, I don’t want any of their products regardless of name. That doesn’t make second rate product better. Anymore some companies have a problem with junk getting out on market. Others make junk for the market. There is a point of failure or problems when certain brands are not worth the aggravation. There is always some cherries, and some lemons in mass produced products. I’m one who doesn’t cut any slack on poorly made guns.
gregintenn
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Hey! What you got against cheap wimmens?
Grayfox
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The bullet creep problem has been well known for quite a while now. It seems to be most prevalent in small frame, light weight revolvers. However, it has occurred in others. This is strictly an ammo issue.
As for Taurus vs S&W, there's little doubt that S&W makes a better gun. But how much better is debatable. Taurus does make good stuff. My best friend was a believer in Taurus. He owned several in both auto loaders and revolvers. Never had a bit of trouble with any of them. Although my only Taurus is a PT-25 that I bought dirt cheap, I did shoot his and have always felt they were fine guns.
I've been watching for a good medium frame Taurus 38/357 at a good price for several years now. My intention is to shoot the snot out of it and see for myself how it holds up. So far, just haven't found the right one.
As for Taurus vs S&W, there's little doubt that S&W makes a better gun. But how much better is debatable. Taurus does make good stuff. My best friend was a believer in Taurus. He owned several in both auto loaders and revolvers. Never had a bit of trouble with any of them. Although my only Taurus is a PT-25 that I bought dirt cheap, I did shoot his and have always felt they were fine guns.
I've been watching for a good medium frame Taurus 38/357 at a good price for several years now. My intention is to shoot the snot out of it and see for myself how it holds up. So far, just haven't found the right one.
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I own a few Taurus revolvers, one I've had since 1999. I have had issues with none of them. The only revolver issue I have ever had was with a NAA Sidewinder. I am not a fan of it, nor NAA customer service.
I've had a lot of semi-autos over the years as well. The only one that I had recurring issues with was a Smith 5906. I couldn't get rid of it, it was issued. Eventually it ran dependably but when I first got it I went out and bought my Taurus 606 (snubby .357) as a back-up because of the multiple failure to eject problems I had in the academy. I eventually got a Kel-Tec P-11 as a back-up since the mags were interchangeable.
Not bashing Smith. I really like my M&P40 1.0, I still have my 5906 and would one day like to have an M&P40 1.0 compact/2.0 subcompact, and a 5906 TSW.
I've had a lot of semi-autos over the years as well. The only one that I had recurring issues with was a Smith 5906. I couldn't get rid of it, it was issued. Eventually it ran dependably but when I first got it I went out and bought my Taurus 606 (snubby .357) as a back-up because of the multiple failure to eject problems I had in the academy. I eventually got a Kel-Tec P-11 as a back-up since the mags were interchangeable.
Not bashing Smith. I really like my M&P40 1.0, I still have my 5906 and would one day like to have an M&P40 1.0 compact/2.0 subcompact, and a 5906 TSW.
I have owned 3 Taurus revolvers. Model 94, model 85 and model 605.
.22, .38 and .357. Never had a problem with any of them.
I have had quite a few students, on the range, with Taurus products.
As I recall, most of the problems were with the Taurus semi-automatics.
Revolvers, not so much.
.22, .38 and .357. Never had a problem with any of them.
I have had quite a few students, on the range, with Taurus products.
As I recall, most of the problems were with the Taurus semi-automatics.
Revolvers, not so much.
bananaman
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I believe my only Taurus was a Tracker .22. {992?} It was a good looking gun. Surprised at out of the box accuracy! My shooting buddy had 1 also. I sold mine off even though it never had any issues.
Replaced it with something a little more "classy", S&W, Model 17-2.
It shoots QUITE well! Bob
Replaced it with something a little more "classy", S&W, Model 17-2.
It shoots QUITE well! Bob
Having once made the mistake of trading into two Taurus products, it brings to mind old sayings and maxims that convey good, solid-gold information. “Friends don’t let friends buy Tauruses” is one such take-it-to-the-bank statement.
smoothshooter
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Is his gun a lightweight model?
If so, that could be the problem. Lightweight guns are more likely to cause bullets to walk out of the brass under recoil because the recoil is more pronounced, and of higher velocity. Works like an inertia bullet puller.
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The fit and finish of the Taurus revolvers coming out of their new plant in Georgia is on par with the Smiths. I recently grabbed a new 2" Model 905 and it's a great little gun. A 3" inch 942 is very high on my wish list now after seeing the quality of their little 905. Go to their website and check out their new lineup. Very impressive.
Yes, I love the history of S&W and there's no doubt that their pre-1982 guns are some of the best revolvers ever made but Taurus has arrived in a big way. S&W needs to redesign their ILS and get back to basics if they want to stay relevant.
lrb1200
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Well, just a perspective from a decades long
firearm aficionado.
Many firearms manufacturers produced "icons" of designs
and quality of manufacture.
Taurus is Never going to be in that club.
firearm aficionado.
Many firearms manufacturers produced "icons" of designs
and quality of manufacture.
Taurus is Never going to be in that club.
jaguargolf
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I've owned and fired several different Taurus' over the years. The big Beretta 92 type was a good gun. The only two I've kept are 5" barreled rimfires with adjustable sights in .22lr and .17HMR. . They have a heavy double action trigger pull, but in single action are accurate enough for hunting small game when stuck in the woods. Great for a day pack when hiking.
I respectfully disagree. The guns Taurus is building in Georgia will be among tomorrow's "classics".
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