Are revolvers obsolete? Manurhin revolver.

I am not familiar with this gun, but anyone who has handled a lot of handguns will instantly see the ergonomics, craftsmanship, and have a 'sense' of how this target revolver will shoot. My gut feeling is an up-sell Model 14 in feel, with a dash of Model 27.
 
Andyd said:
The GSG9 team that freed the German hostages on the Landshut airplane successfully also used revolvers. Actually, they used a S&W snubnose and when the terrorist did not drop after he got shot, he got shot with a subgun.

That worked miracles.
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The commander, Wegener, used a 4-inch Model 19, to take out at least one terrorist. The other guns used within the plane were a mix of .38 Spl. S&W snubbies and HK P9S, although the few published photos taken during the operation show only the P9S.


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They did not perform up to expectations with the first-generation Geco BAT ammo. So afterwards from the late 1970s through the 1980s the S&W Model 19 with 2.5-inch barrel became the standard sidearm of the GSG 9, until replaced first by the HK P7 and then the Glock.


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I bought a new one made by Chappuis Armes back in 2009 (and made in 2007). Price was 2000 Swiss francs, which was the same in US dollars. Today’s price in Switzerland in $ 3000.

They are beautiful guns with an amazing blueing. Trigger is great, accuracy is excellent. A true collector and shooter.

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Absalom said:
The commander, Wegener, used a 4-inch Model 19, to take out at least one terrorist. The other guns used within the plane were a mix of .38 Spl. S&W snubbies and HK P9S, although the few published photos taken during the operation show only the P9S.


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I had a shooting buddy who was in the GSG9 recue team in Mogadishu. He also owned an MR32 and won a few state championships with it.

His name is on many SIG Sauer test targets, he was one of the guys test firing them in Eckernförde.
 
IMO Revolvers are still valid, and I saw the TFB TV video on that revolver, and it's pricey, but it seems that the price may be justified.
 
Hello everybody, For what it's worth, I was able to examine, handle, and dry fire a Manurhin MR73 the other day, and I thought some of you might be interested in my reactions. The gun is very well finished (blued)...about on a par with my S&W 19-3s. The trigger is very smooth, again, about on a par with my nicely smoothed up 19-3s. The MR73 I handled had a six inch barrel and felt nicely balanced in my hand. The Trausch grip felt very nice indeed.

I'd very much like to have one of the MR73s more as a curiosity than anything else, but they really aren't available just now. A salesman from the New York Beretta office said they might have more in in about Sept. I suspect that by then, I'll have lost interest.

On the down side, if I'm properly seeing the several youtube videos on
the MR73s they lack two of the internal safely devices that are built in to traditional S&W revolvers. As you know, there are three internal blocks on a Hand ejector...I believe I'm correct in this...The rebound spring, the bolt safety, and the sliding safety. Each of these does its bit to keep the gun from firing unless the cylinder is properly in place and the trigger is pulled. The Manurhin appears to lack both the bolt safety and the sliding safety. If I'm correct about this, it would be interesting to get into the minds of the engineers who designed the MR73. Did they not realize just what the bolt safety did? Did they think the sliding safety was an unnecessary redundancy? Interesting.

Cheers,
John
 
You compared the MR73 with the S&W Model 19. Good comparison since the French used the Model 19 until they decided to build their own revolver. They liked the Model 19 but it wore out too quickly due to their extensive training. They designed the MR73 to be similar to the Model 19. So, there is a good reason for the similarity in the two revolvers.

The MR73 is simply a better built revolver for quality and durability over the Model 19. Therefore the significant price difference in the two.

I really like my MR73. It came with a 4 & 1/2 lb. single action trigger pull and a 7 lb. double action. This setting feels right
for my use. The trigger pull length and the single action hammer draw are both shorter on my MR73 than my Model 19 and the Model 66.
 
Just bumped this recent one to alert the enthusiasts.
Over on BrokeGunner, there is a beastly wicked model
called the MR93. Over 60 photos in the array, and certainly
something you rarely get a chance to see.
 
My son and I I took my MR 73 to an outdoor range. The range had a metal silhouette target at 80 yards. I used a bench and a rubber rest to shoot 158 grain FMJ 357 Armscor ammo. I was shooting high left, kept moving in and down hit target 3 of first six. My son hit the target 5 of first six. We both shot 25 rounds I hit about 50% my son did much better. The trigger pull helped to hit target along with extended rear sight.
I really like the Trausch grips, you hand is held steady and control the recoil.
 
Hannibal Barca said:
I think it is the opposite: It is a little larger than a K frame S&W but saller than a L frame.
The messurements of the cylinders are the K frame 36 mm, the MR73 38 mm and the L frame 39.5 mm.

But the manurhin is a little lighter in weight 33.5 ounces against 36 ounces og the model 19 when both are 4 inches barrel.
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You are right while I am not wrong.The gun I tried was not a .357 but a .38Spl.I should have mentionned that my experience dates back in the early '90s.
 
One question about the .357 Magnum Loads used by the GING in 1973:

I know the loads the GING used in their practice was Norma 158 grains. That was the load the models 19s couldn´t bear the constant use and the Manurhin MR73 did.

But What kind of load was it? what kind of points were them? What velocity and pressure they have?

And the most important for me What was the differences between those Norma´s and the regular American 158 .357 Magnum soft noses or SJHP like the ones of Federal, Winchester, Remignton?

Forgive my bad English.
 
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