Sig 365 in .380

LCC · Jan 17, 2022

If this has already been posted, didn't see the thread.
Lot to like here, and .380 in a 365 should be a fairly soft shooting handgun compared to the LCP that is usually in my pocket.
American Handgunner Popular SIG SAUER P365 Now Available in .380 ACP - American Handgunner

sigp220.45 · Jan 17, 2022

Nice! Its good to have options.

(Mentally counting down to the onset of grumpy posts.)

BEEMER1 · Jan 17, 2022

The 365 would be a good platform for the new Federal 30 Super Carry.

SAFireman · Jan 17, 2022

I wonder when the 22lr version will come about?

Jebus35745 · Jan 17, 2022

Was carrying J frame or “lately” K frame revolvers. The K was bulky & somewhat heavy and hard to conceal. Bunch of friends had the 365 so I bought one, the 365X. Now carry in my coat pocket with twice the firepower. Nice they added the .380 but the 9mm doesn’t seem to recoil too badly for a micro compact. Larry

LVSteve · Jan 17, 2022

This is curious in the article. Emphasis added.

SIG SAUER is introducing the P365 in .380 ACP for 2021.

Poking around the Web some more reveals two things:

1) No 380ACP P365 on the Sig website;

2) Rumors on Reddit that Sig canceled the project.

I suspect vaporware, sadly.

swsig · Jan 17, 2022

sigp220.45 said:
Nice! Its good to have options.

(Mentally counting down to the onset of grumpy posts.)

I don't get the need for such an option. Dagnabbit, everyone knows those .380 acps won't penetrate wet toilet paper. You're not properly armed unless you're carrying a .44 Mag or a .500 S&W, consarnit! Unfortunately, there are too many dadgum whippersnappers around who don't understand this.
Ptui!

ladder13 · Jan 17, 2022

But what about the bears?

smoothshooter · Jan 17, 2022

SAFireman said:
I wonder when the 22lr version will come about?

Or the .45. version.

LCC · Jan 17, 2022

Jebus35745 said:
Was carrying J frame or “lately” K frame revolvers. The K was bulky & somewhat heavy and hard to conceal. Bunch of friends had the 365 so I bought one, the 365X. Now carry in my coat pocket with twice the firepower. Nice they added the .380 but the 9mm doesn’t seem to recoil too badly for a micro compact. Larry

Have a 365X myself, what I carry instead of my usual pocket LCP if going to town. Sweet shooting handgun with acceptable recoil.
Being tall and lanky, prefer to carry it in a OWB slide. Would think the slightly smaller 365 frame in .380 would be a fine pocket carry in an Alabama holster. And older I get, the less I like recoil..not that one wold even notice it if actually having to use their handgun...

LVSteve · Jan 17, 2022

We will see at the next SHOT show. I still suspect vaporware, at least in the US. See post#6.

BC38 · Jan 18, 2022

FWIW, the 9mm P365 is the softest shooting micro or even compact 9mm I've got/shot that isn't all steel. I have a Star M43 that shoots just as soft - but it is all steel and weighs twice as much - not to mention it is SA (I strongly prefer DA for carry).
All that is to say, I can't see there being a market for the same pistol in 380acp. Not much of a benefit for what you give up. Unless you're looking for a 380 that shoots like a 22. FWIW, my Bersa already almost does that.

luvsmiths · Jan 18, 2022

SAFireman said:
I wonder when the 22lr version will come about?

Exactly. It definitely is needed, for those who are sensitive to the recoil of the .380

chief38 · Jan 18, 2022

IMHO I see no real practical reason for a P365 in 380. After owning a 365 for about three years now I find it very easy to shoot fast and accurately. Even friends who have not shot pistols before have fared very well with it.

The .380 is a marginal SD caliber and even with the ballistic improvements is second fiddle to the 9. I truly know of no one (in my personal life) that has any major objections to shooting the 9mm version and can’t imagine that even if Sig did offer a 380 it would sell many of them. The place where the 380 would shine is in an even smaller pistol platform. At least in my mind a lower powered cartridge might be justified for an even smaller package. Just one man’s opinion of course.

Andyd · Jan 18, 2022

chief38 said:
IMHO I see no real practical reason for a P365 in 380. After owning a 365 for about three years now I find it very easy to shoot fast and accurately. Even friends who have not shot pistols before have fared very well with it.

The .380 is a marginal SD caliber and even with the ballistic improvements is second fiddle to the 9. I truly know of no one (in my personal life) that has any major objections to shooting the 9mm version and can’t imagine that even if Sig did offer a 380 it would sell many of them. The place where the 380 would shine is in an even smaller pistol platform. At least in my mind a lower powered cartridge might be justified for an even smaller package. Just one man’s opinion of course.

I agree ...but ... if I would use logical thinking when buying a gun, I would proabaly have less than a dozen. That would be so sad!

Donn · Jan 18, 2022

Sig 365 in 380? Kinda like the new S&W CSX, the answer to a question nobody asked. MHO you understand.

terry_tr6 · Jan 18, 2022

IMHO, a well aimed shot from a .380 is a better stopper than a poorly aimed shot from a 9mm. with a small light gun, there are many people who will not shoot a 9mm enough to become proficient with it where the same platform in a .380 may make shooting enough of a pleasant experience that they will shoot it more and be not only a better shot, but perhaps a more enthusiastic shooter. If that happens, they may learn to handle a more powerful round. Isn't that why a new shooter is suggested to start shooting with a .22rf?

murphydog · Jan 18, 2022

Just looks like a typo on the website, March-April 2022 looks like the anticipated release time.

In a sane world with plentiful ammunition more people might practice with a .380 than a 9 mm - but in the current situation 9 mm it is. A .22 LR version would sell well also.

CH4 · Jan 18, 2022

Unfortunately, Sig is one of the biggies who backed out the 2022 SHOT Show. Would have been nice to check it out. However, I think the 365 holds plenty of 9mm. Others are Ruger, Beretta, Smith, Colt, Lipsey, et al.

If the 365 380 has a direct blow back, like most 380s, and not a locking breech, it’ll probably be snappy.

LVSteve · Jan 18, 2022

CH4 said:
Unfortunately, Sig is one of the biggies who backed out the 2022 SHOT Show. Would have been nice to check it out. However, I think the 365 holds plenty of 9mm. Others are Ruger, Beretta, Smith, Colt, Lipsey, et al.

If the 365 380 has a direct blow back, like most 380s, and not a locking breech, it’ll probably be snappy.

A common mistake I've seen made by many manufacturers. Just because you can make it in blowback form does not mean that you should.

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