Any Thoughts on Origin of this Sword Cane?

quinn · Aug 27, 2023

I'm fascinated by the conceal blades that preceded concelaed handgun carry. This walked me home this weekend. Interesting but I'm clueless to the age and origin.

OAL is 37"
Head is hexagonal (like a large nut but solide), brass, silver or nckel plated;
Handle is wood & what appears to be carved ivory. The inletted portions of the ivory are crudely painted (repainte?) black;
Lower handle and locking portions of the shart are brass;
Shaft is wood with a brass tip;
The unmarked blade is triangular and sharpened for most of the length.

Thanks for any observations however, I think we can rule out Sheffield.

Claymore33 · Aug 27, 2023

grandfather brought one back from India after WW2

Ivan the Butcher · Aug 27, 2023

My second of four kids was the last to marry. At his wedding he carries the family's USMC NCO sword, all the rest carried sword canes from Cold Steel, The only wrong thing I saw with the Cold Steel cane swords was the blade was only 18" and not sharp. (The import duty is much higher on "Sharp Weapons" than on dull tools) But only 18" is a little short!

Dad's cane is in 10mm pinfire!

Ivan

The OP's cane probably has "Carved Bone" on the handle! Take Warning: If that were Elephant tooth, it might get confiscated!

THE PILGRIM · Aug 27, 2023

Also thinking India or somewhere over that away.

quinn · Aug 27, 2023

Ivan the Butcher said:
The OP's cane probably has "Carved Bone" on the handle! Take Warning: If that were Elephant tooth, it might get confiscated!

In my reserch bone has tiny dots where blood vessels ran to the marry; ivory does not. I studied this under pretty extreme magnification and feel it is ivory. That might be another indicator that India or thereabouts was the source as suggested above.
Thanks for the help.

StrawHat · Aug 27, 2023

A triangular blade is not a slicing blade but a thrusting, piercing blade. The edges are not sharp, at least not slicing sharp. The point, should be absolutely sharp.

Kevin

rickyt · Aug 28, 2023

Here's one bought in the 1980's. Very crude, I would say made in India.

quinn · Aug 28, 2023

rickyt said:
Here's one bought in the 1980's. Very crude, I would say made in India.

Aside from the different caps, they look to have cove from the same maker. Where did you acquire yours and was it new at that time?

wood714 · Aug 28, 2023

I have one that my dad got from his neighbor. It was his neighbors grand dads.

Only marking in Toledo. I thought it was made in Ohio till I looked it up and found about Toledo steel. Other than the engraving on the 27 1/2" blade, it's pretty plain.

CH4 · Aug 28, 2023

I've seen similar at stores that sell edged weapons in India and Napal.

rickyt · Aug 28, 2023

quinn said:
Aside from the different caps, they look to have cove from the same maker. Where did you acquire yours and was it new at that time?

This was bought from a work mate at a company I worked for in the mid 80's. He was also selling filofax's...popular at the time. They were new and cheap. In those days I bought everything new and cheap. These are totally banned in the UK. Should be handed in or destroyed otherwise a hefty fine or sentence will ensure.

Onomea · Aug 29, 2023

Ivan the Butcher said:
.. But only 18" is a little short!...

FWIW, Burger Canes, in South Africa, perhaps the highest quality sword cane maker in the world — well, at least that I have come across, and I have looked — posts this on its website's FAQs:

Q: Can the blade be made longer or shorter?

A: Simple answer is NO........ all our blades are skilfully and beautifully hand ground, heat treated, tempered and hand finished in house. A lot of thought has gone into the overall length of our sword cane making it very affective yet not too long to be unmanageable 17.5" (450mm) plus the average handle length of 10cm /4”.

Home Page | Burger Sword Canes - Walking Sticks

It's not designed for slashing, like a saber. It's designed to stab. The length and balance feel very controllable.

(Perhaps not the best weapon for a trained swordsman to take on Zorro, but for your average Joe to skewer a punk with a knife or stop an aggressive dog...)

wood714 · Aug 30, 2023

If I ever needed a cane, I'd want a blade 12 to 18" long.

Mine is at 27.5" and it seems awkward removing the sword from the cane. I think a shorter blade would fit the bill.

Seem to remember Cold Steel making one with a short blade?

StrawHat · Aug 30, 2023

Ivan the Butcher said:
… only 18" is a little short!
…

I think the penetration tests like to see 12-15”. 18” is probably too much. What about the folks standing behind the bad guy?

Kevin

(ps. There should be one of those emoji things after my post, tongue in cheek, haha sort of thing.)

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