I just did a search for "callous" and found this.
California Fires-Cause?
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I just did a search for "callous" and found this.
IBTL.
Serious discussion of the root causes are verboten.
But it is still a fascinating topic...
Serious discussion of the root causes are verboten.
But it is still a fascinating topic...
In my opinion...the investigation into the cause will be driven by the depth of the pockets of those being investigated. Homeless pockets are shallow, utilities pockets are deep...so I fully expect that the electric utilities will ultimately be held responsible.
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Yes, whenever there's a wildfire in California the local electric utility is the go-to whipping boy. Mostly because that's often the source. It was for the Camp fire.
The state blames the utility for poor management. The utility blames the state for not allowing big enough rate increases to cover ongoing maintenance. There will be investigations and blue-ribbon panels, and more fires.
The state blames the utility for poor management. The utility blames the state for not allowing big enough rate increases to cover ongoing maintenance. There will be investigations and blue-ribbon panels, and more fires.
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In one of the Midwestern states they built a prison with convict labor. Now THAT'S callous.
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." Sherlock Holmes
We had a bad fire here in NJ in 2022 in the Mullica River area of the Wharton State Forest. Blamed-but not proven-on an illegal campfire. Remote are, dry winter and spring, high winds. The usual suspects.
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data." Sherlock Holmes
We had a bad fire here in NJ in 2022 in the Mullica River area of the Wharton State Forest. Blamed-but not proven-on an illegal campfire. Remote are, dry winter and spring, high winds. The usual suspects.
At my gun club we had a couple days of convict labor donated to us from one of the local prisons. Back then the DOC rented our club house and the back range to do firearms training and quals. We had a very good arrangement with them, as the training academy was about 10 miles away. They had no firing range there!
The club need a lot of work and the DOC range officers finagled out a way to get a buss load of laborers up to the club a couple times. They were all short timers, none violent and trustee class. Many of them had skills like carpenter, roofer or just genuinely handy. They preformed a lot of very good work.
The only stipulation was the club had to be closed for the day and no one but the guards was allowed to bring guns onto the club. They all packed issued .38 revolvers!
I was between jobs at the time and I was on site to keep the road gate locked and not allow guns on the property.
So; wash your thoughts out with this....we help people in dire need all over the world. The world is in fact paying attention.
Both Mexico and Canada have trained firefighters on our (US) firelines right now. They sent help when we need it.
Both Mexico and Canada have trained firefighters on our (US) firelines right now. They sent help when we need it.
The plane that got hit by the drone came down from Canada to assist.
That's good to hear. First time I've ever heard of such a thing. We're usually on the giving rather than the receiving end of that type of arrangement.
We got a lot of international assistance during Hurricane Katrina. International response to Hurricane Katrina - Wikipedia
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Also would like to point out that Colorado would be a poor choice to relocate to. Already lots of wildfires and smoke from control burns happening here. And overcrowded already.
Not doubting it, just saying this is the first time I've ever heard of it.
These planes are on lease from Quebec and have been repaired and passed inspection.
They will be back in service tomorrow, Wednesday 1/14/24.
This is from KABC web site, Sept 15, 2024
"For the 30th year in a row, "Super Scooper" firefighting planes have arrived in Los Angeles County from Canada, an annual development that unofficially marks local firefighters' preparations for the region's peak fire season."
Harrison
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Urban Nomad is a better term than homeless, hobo or bum.
But then, someone would think you are making fun of them.
Marshwheeling
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I call them campers. It’s context sensitive, I guess.
It had to be utility equipment that started the Camp fire as no one else had any money. I wonder how long it will be before California has no one interested in running electricity there.
Buried electric lines cause very few fires.
Harrison
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I ain't gonna speculate. This topic is too close to the fore bidden politics to post on.
