The unavoidable gun fight. Are you confident with your handgun choice?

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sousana said:
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Train 500rds/week, been the same routine for ages. Got my CCW back in the 80s after joining the Navy, 1 year on a sub some practice, 2 years at Portsmouth Naval and 17yrs with the Marines as an IDT Corpsman. That's where I got into heavy training, on weekends I'd hit the armory, check out my issue WW2 era 1911 and 500rds and hit the range, repeat on Sunday. A good habit I still have to this day but mostly I go over my goal of 500rds a week as that's fot my PC/BUG, rest is shooting for pleasure.

So yes, I'm extremely comfortable with my carry weapon. Mostly because if I screw up, I'm still scared Gunny will scream my head off, later in life I learned his dogged training saved my life several times over. To my greatest JOY, last August, my niece graduated MCRD Parris Island and became U.S. MARINE!!!!

I train to this day religiously as a skill unused degrades. The old Safari Arms frame and Essex slide 1911 I built in 1988/89 has now seen more rounds than most 1911 that were in service since ww2, it's git that same shake rattle and roll as my Marine issued 1911, and she's still serving.
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Congrats to your niece. And thank you for all you did for the Corps, Doc. Semper Fi. Oorah!
 
Ed4032 said:
I don’t carry for a gun battle. Just to get out of where I shouldn’t be. I call the guys that train and are equipped to do it. They have friends who will join them.
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Nobody carries for a gun battle except for the military and the police. However if you find yourself in a situation where the flight option has gone by and you find yourself in a fight situation, you better be ready because at this time it's too late to call the guys equipped to fight. The first question is, why are you where you shouldn't be in the first place?
 
sousana said:
Hey Sgt. Buzzard, I just got my hands on a 637, how do these lightweights hold up with heavy use?
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What does heavy use mean to you? Number of shots fired once a week, month or year? Or the actual load?

In my case I shoot a 442 pretty regularly but with Fiocchi 148gr. wadcutters. It's my understanding they make the lightest load of the major manufacturers. My very rarely shot hot hardcast wadcutters are for carry. In the past my "range gun" was a #36 which will hold up forever using light wads. I've since moved to a 3" Kimber K6s as my range gun which gets the most bullets down the tube. Rated for .357 Mag. I don't think I'll ever wear this one out using .38's. I plan on replacing the 442 with a 340 PD as my carry. That will carried a lot and shot very little. I expect to continue to use a hot .38 wadcutter in the 340.

My goal has always been an accurate first shot and quick follow up shots. 357's in a 11.7 Oz. gun is not happening, not with me and arthritic wrists and thumbs. If I get old enough, I'm 75 now, and arthritic enough, I'd move to my 351C. I'm not worried about carrying a .22 Magnum. All these J frames with the two finger grip fit my hand perfectly. If the intense muzzle blast doesn't scare a felon, 7 hollow points center mass should work. Come September it will be 53 years of J frame joy. Familiarity breeds confidence.
 
Tabby Lynn said:
Nobody carries for a gun battle except for the military and the police. However if you find yourself in a situation where the flight option has gone by and you find yourself in a fight situation, you better be ready because at this time it's too late to call the guys equipped to fight. The first question is, why are you where you shouldn't be in the first place?
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You mean like Buffalo Wild Wings when somebody decides to rob it? Silly question . . .
 
Muss Muggins said:
You mean like Buffalo Wild Wings when somebody decides to rob it? Silly question . . .
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I can see that I set off a bunch of silly, or maybe not so silly replies. Of course, all of you knew I was referring to situational awareness and staying away from areas that are known to be trouble spots. Every city has those areas and it's just better to find somewhere else to go rather than take your chances in a known bad area.

However, these days with all the wackos running around, there might not actually be a safe places anymore. Lots of people being gunned down in their own homes, shopping malls, schools, churches, places of business and places where alcohol is being served. One of the worst places to go is somewhere that is posted or there are laws prohibiting the carry of firearms. You can rest assured that the wackos will flock to these paces since the chances of anyone shooting back are almost nil.
 
Post #20, way, way back has the best summation in response to the original post. Regrettable these threads continue for this length.
 
Since we are still kicking this around, I thought I would run this by you guys. Many years ago there was a series of pizza parlor robberies in and around Berkeley, CA. The bad guy was called the .25 caliber killer. What he would do was pull out a .25 auto, march everybody in the place into the walk-in, direct them to lay down face down in the walk-in, and then shoot them in the back of the head. This happened several times. Had ANY of the victims fought back (even without a gun) they would have stood a fair chance of surviving one or more hits from a .25 auto if they got prompt medical attention. A .25 in the base of the skull kills quickly and reliably. You need to ask yourself if your life is in danger and, if the answer is yes, what are you going to do about it. Drawing against the drop might be the answer. (The bad guy MIGHT be armed with a good quality fake gun. It happens all the time.) Even if you stop some lead the bad guy will probably flee and you will probably get some prompt medical attention. Probably. Life is a risk-benefit assessment. You have already made part of that decision if you have your own gat with you. The next step should be your call, not the bad guy's.
 
Not sure where I saw this but there is a chilling element of truth about it:

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