I like 45acp

im looking for a new 45. i have 2 1911s and i want more of a high capacity non 1911 was thinking about a FN or maybe a M&P no glocks i have a few leaning for something different
 
im looking for a new 45. i have 2 1911s and i want more of a high capacity non 1911 was thinking about a FN or maybe a M&P no glocks i have a few leaning for something different
The FNX is excellent. There’s a big price break between the tactical and regular models. Having said that, I recently shot the M&P above and was very impressed with it also. I would also throw the sig p227 out there, if you want to stay away from polymer.
 
I bought the Governor when they came out for the novelty of it. It is big but only 29 ounces and not that big a problem on the hip. We carry on the farm and when hunting and often have snakes in the yards, the garage, the barn, in the RV, the shop and even a couple in the house.

I carry the Governor with two 7.5 birdshot in summer, then buckshot for a couple and then a couple 45 Colt. However, the 2 round and 3 round moon clips give a lot of diversity.

At the range, I go with about 200 rounds loaded on moon clips, and never reload moon clips anywhere but at home.

From the 2.75 inch barrel of the Governor, I get 798 fps from the 200 grain Flying Ashtray some may remember or similar JHP. 230 grain ball is less but never below 750 fps, a mild load. That gives about 300 fpe, about the same as the tiny 9mm in my pocket. Except it does not need to expand must as it is already a .451 inch diameter.
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And the Flying Ashtray


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I can get more power from the 45 Colt but for most days just do not need it. I have several single actions that shoot the 45 Colt and enjoy the round. I have 44 mags if I need more power but seldom do these days. And there is always the 10mm in the 1911 when I want 700 fpe in a flat handgun.

The Governor like the Taurus Judge was loved by most but spurned by many as a solution to a problem nobody wanted. Except the sell lots of them, dozens of different models.

In m case I was not interested until the Governor came along and added the 45 acp as a third round that fit the gun. And now, I love the darn thang. Bulky a bit t first but a wonderful gun on the trail or farm and thing better for snakes, and that coyote who might jump up while I am on the tractor.

No SW collection is complete without a Governor. And you can burn up 200 rounds in moons clips in a very short while..

Just saying. Not a model 25, but pretty darn close.
 
I have looked at the Governor, but was unsure, thanks for adding some color to the pistol.
 
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Have you tried getting a .45 ACP with a threaded barrel? I have a USP 45 Tactical for that and I like it.
 
im looking for a new 45. i have 2 1911s and i want more of a high capacity non 1911 was thinking about a FN or maybe a M&P no glocks i have a few leaning for something different
Love my FN-545 Tactical. Comes with a 15 and 18 round magazine. Added a suppressor for duty as my night stand gun. Now I don’t worry about hurting mine or my families hearing if I ever had to discharge it indoors.
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bought my first .45 when I was 15, it was perfectly legal back then for a 15 year old to purchase a handgun. It was my first center-fire handgun. It was a WW-II Remington Rand.

Pretty much my story except the pistol DCM sent me in 1963 was a Great War Colt.

I have two Smiths, a positively beautiful 25 -2 in a presentation case and nondescript 1937 Brazilian contract Hand Ejector. Despite the barrel proclaiming it to be a Model 1955 Target, the pretty gun struggles to hold all its rounds on a #3 washtub at fifty yards. The 1937 shoots rings around it.
 
Pretty much my story except the pistol DCM sent me in 1963 was a Great War Colt.

I have two Smiths, a positively beautiful 25 -2 in a presentation case and nondescript 1937 Brazilian contract Hand Ejector. Despite the barrel proclaiming it to be a Model 1955 Target, the pretty gun struggles to hold all its rounds on a #3 washtub at fifty yards. The 1937 shoots rings around it.
Any general guidance or what to look for on these models?
 
A hearty Buckeye welcome from Ashtabula County, Ohio!

Did someone mention the S&W ACP revolver?

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Just the 4” revolvers,

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And the only self loading ACP I have.

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Yes, the 45 ACP and I have a long and healthy relationship!

(edit to add, in the first image, bottom right is a Model 10-6 that photobombed the pose!)

Kevin
 
TK Custom, that's who machined the cylinder...

https://tkcustom.com/

You can go from .45 Colt to .45 ACP, but not the other way round. With a gun originally chambered in .45 Colt, after the cylinder is machined you can shoot .45 ACP in moon clips and .45 Colt either singly loaded, with a speed loader or in moon clips.

Adios,

Pizza Bob
You should also be able to shoot 06 cases cut to 45 long Colt length in moon clips but there is no real advantage to that unless you have an abundance of 06/308 type cases available.

But, there is no ballistic advantage to any of the conversions.

Kevin
 
I only have a couple S&W .45 acp pistols.

A 2.0 Compact 4" ten round (first one I bought) and a 1.0 4&1/2" ten round (second one I bought).

The 2.0 Compact is pretty awesome. The 1.0 has to do some homework/over time to get to the 2.0 standards.

How does the 2.0 Compact shoot? When we go to the range with a new pistol, or some new ammo and my wife gets frustrated with her groups she has a way out if I've brought the 2.0 Compact. She'll load it up, shoot a group and confirm the problem isn't her, it's the new pistol/ammo. She's not very big and the .45 rocks her hands/arms up in the air when she fires it, but the bullets are always close together on the paper.

Maybe I got lucky with that one and it shoots better than many other 2.0 M&P .45 acp pistols.

If I lived in a state where 10 rounds was the max I could load in a handgun then the 2.0 .45 acp Compact would be my EDC concealed carry gun. If I can only carry 10 rounds they are gonna be 10 big rounds.

Any time the 9MM/.45 acp debate comes up I instantly remember Sgt. York and Sgt. Baker.

In WW1 Sgt York killed an enemy patrol of 8 German soldiers with one shot each from his 1911 .45 acp. In WW2 Sgt. Baker killed an enemy patrol of 8 Japanese soldiers with one shot each from his 1911 pistol. I've never read of anyone taking out an enemy patrol with one shot each from his Beretta 9MM.

Scary situation to be in. Sgt. York survived. Sgt. Baker did not. Sgt. Baker was already seriously wounded and unable to walk when he was set down with his back to a tree and handed the 1911 for protection till his squad could carry the wounded down to the beach, pick up more ammo/men and return up the trail to get him. They got back too late.

Yeah, I carry a 9MM and several spare magazines when I EDC.
“several spare magazines”?
You must be planning on missing a lot!
Good practice and more training would help that.
 
Well it may ruin you for all other 45acp pistols but check out a Heckler and Koch HK45 or HK45C or even a HK USP Expert in 45acp. I thought a customized Colt MKIV Series 70 would be the only pistol I would ever want or need. Then I bought a couple of Heckler and Koch pistols. The USP Expert magazine holds 12 shots, HK45 holds 10 and the HK45C holds 8 with a flush magazine or 10 with a magazine extension. All 3 the above have an o-ring around the barrel for accuracy enhancement. All have great triggers and excellent sights straight out of the box. Your typical Colt needs a little work first.
 
This S&W Model 457 was a heavy little beast that, as always, I regret selling years ago. It was like a steel paperweight with a trigger. Should have kept it anyway, but you know how that goes….

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I found the M&P 45 full size is a good shooter. I put a fair number of rounds thru mine. I had had a couple of 1911s over the years and preferred the M&P. I’ve never had a .45 ACP revolver.
 
I like my 45's. Majority of the time it's my edc on the farm. I only have 1911's in this caliber and i wouldn't trade them for nothing. From colt to sa, kimber and more I'm able to smith my own for whatever function i need.
 
“several spare magazines”?
You must be planning on missing a lot!
Good practice and more training would help that.
I plan on having plenty of rounds left for the trip home.

Watch the LEO shootings you can find on the internet. When you see someone 5 or 6 feet away take 4 to 6 hits to put on the ground it sort of makes you wonder. I carry a 9 for one reason. Because my wife won't carry spare mags. on road trips. I got tired of asking her if she remembered to get a couple spare mags before we left and she always answers, "No, I forgot." My Shield Plus uses the same mags. are her Equalizer. So I've go spare mags. for both of us.

Since you're curious, I also carry 10 or 12 spare mags for the AR15 when we go on a road trip. Far from home. No plans to use it. Don't want to use it. Do want to have plenty of rounds if I need to use it.

Being prepared isn't a hard thing to do. I used to have a partner that carried 6 rounds in his S&W M59. Why? Because the FBI summary of Police Officers killed (study that came out yearly many years ago and still might be a thing) said the average gunfight consumed abought 3 rounds. He figured he had twice what he'd ever need. I asked him if he understood what an average was and how it was calculated. He just gave me a funny look. Those 6 rounds were also a mix of FMJ and hollow points. I asked why he had a mix of rounds in the single magazine in the pistols (he didn't carry back ups) and he said it was in case he had to shoot through a car door, or something. I didn't bother to ask how he was going to make sure the FMJ rounds were the ones being fired when he had to shoot through the car door. No use in asking. I'd already seen that funny look when I asked about averages.

Oh, also have a spare tire, a jack, a lug wrench and plug kits in my cars/truck. Just in case. And two pocket knives in my pants pocket. And a streamlight in my other pants pocket, even when it's daylight.
 
This got me thinking of a Beretta 8045. Only an 8 round mag. But almost as small as one of the newer S&W Shields. Kinda well before it's time. Not all that common now, and mags are hard to find and quite pricey if you can find one. From what I recall it had a rotary barrel that helped reduce felt recoil, and being all metal didn't hurt either.
 

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