$1400 for a 1975 Colt Government MKIV?

Mark_Mark · Tuesday at 8:21 PM

Is a Colt Government MKIV 1911 worth $1400?

Seen it last week, hoping to get it for $600. There was rust on the hammer, they cleaned it up, but there still is a stain on the hammer. But looks like it was found in a sock drawer, probably in a sock too.

But, and I missing something? is it worth $1400?

Photos tomorrow, but it looks like a out the box 1970’s dull blue Colt.

SGT ROCK 11B · Tuesday at 8:27 PM

Back in 1975 the Colts were iffy feeding Hollow Points. Hopefully it is mint and bubba didn’t put a Dremel to work on it.

I prefer the pre 1969 Colts. Series 70 and Series 80 are overrated. But if you plan shooting JHP Self Defense ammunition go with a 1991A1. If 230 grain FMJ is good to go for you. Any Colt is a great choice.

Mark_Mark · Tuesday at 8:32 PM

SGT ROCK 11B said:
Back in 1975 the Colts were iffy feeding Hollow Points. Hopefully it is mint and bubba didn’t put a Dremel to work on it.

But it’s it iffy $1400? it’s mint minus the hammer stain & no box

I believe I paid $700 for a Commander size 70’s 1911 MK IV not too long ago. Normal wear, and look GREAT tho

Valmet · Tuesday at 8:36 PM

I’d def pass at $1400…would need to be absolutely mint (and a LW) for me to drop that kinda coin.

Mark_Mark · Tuesday at 8:40 PM

Corrections:

Paid $950 for a GCNM 1975 MKIV
and $600~something for a Combat

Mark_Mark · Tuesday at 8:41 PM

Valmet said:
I’d def pass at $1400…would need to be absolutely mint (and a LW) for me to drop that kinda coin.

Thanks You!

Will also pass and but photos tomorrow for the forum

Mark_Mark · Tuesday at 8:44 PM

I did picked up the 2000’s MK IV remake for around $700 if I recall

SGT ROCK 11B · Tuesday at 8:54 PM

Mark_Mark said:
Corrections:

Paid $950 for a GCNM 1975 MKIV
and $600~something for a Combat

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On the Gold Cup what years did the Gold Cups had the lightweight slide for Wadcutter loads?

SGT ROCK 11B · Tuesday at 8:54 PM

In 1975, a standard Colt Government Model (MK IV Series 70) had an original retail price of roughly $200 to $250. Today, the current market value for a 1975 Colt Government in pristine, all-original condition is between $1,200 and $3,000+, with prices varying drastically depending on exact caliber, finish (e.g., blued vs. nickel), and overall condition.

Mark_Mark · Tuesday at 8:58 PM

SGT ROCK 11B said:
In 1975, a standard Colt Government Model (MK IV Series 70) had an original retail price of roughly $200 to $250. Today, the current market value for a 1975 Colt Government in pristine, all-original condition is between $1,200 and $3,000+, with prices varying drastically depending on exact caliber, finish (e.g., blued vs. nickel), and overall condition.

WOW!!! $3,000+ how? I need to do some research on the original MK IV

Mark_Mark · Tuesday at 8:59 PM

SGT ROCK 11B said:
On the Gold Cup what years did the Gold Cups had the lightweight slide for Wadcutter loads?

not sure… I bought that 1975 on a whim.

Pocketrocket · Tuesday at 11:36 PM

This is our reality here in California. Thanks to our handgun roster new Colts haven't been available for years. And people think they're made of gold. Worn Government Models and 1991's are $1500. I paid $2500 for my MkIV Series 70 Gold Cup here. It is LNIB, last year made(83). I've got a nice nickel Government Model MkIV from the mid 70's I paid a little less for.
I couldn't find a decent Lightweight, and didn't want a newer XSE, so i got a S&W 1911PD. It's really nice, great trigger.
I think the lightweight wadcutter GCNM slides ended in the late 60's.

arjay · Wednesday at 12:12 AM

Picked this one up w/box and papers without a mark on it 15 years ago for $700 or so. Hard to find one that hasn’t been messed with or without a dummy scratch

Mark_Mark · Wednesday at 2:43 AM

Pocketrocket said:
This is our reality here in California. Thanks to our handgun roster new Colts haven't been available for years. And people think they're made of gold. Worn Government Models and 1991's are $1500. I paid $2500 for my MkIV Series 70 Gold Cup here. It is LNIB, last year made(83). I've got a nice nickel Government Model MkIV from the mid 70's I paid a little less for.
I couldn't find a decent Lightweight, and didn't want a newer XSE, so i got a S&W 1911PD. It's really nice, great trigger.
I think the lightweight wadcutter GCNM slides ended in the late 60's.

Good Point.. these Old Colt Automatic might be priced high because of the CA gun roster !

Mark_Mark · Wednesday at 2:43 AM

arjay said:
Picked this one up w/box and papers without a mark on it 15 years ago for $700 or so. Hard to find one that hasn’t been messed with or without a dummy scratchView attachment 898071

Good Looking MK IV!!!

Dave Haynes · Wednesday at 12:20 PM

I saw a You Tube video on what I think was a new Colt 1911. It had two springs, a sliding bolt inside the slide and a guide rod as part of the barrel.. I've never seen anything like it and it sure wasn't a 1911A1.

HH940 · Wednesday at 3:48 PM

Dave Haynes said:
I saw a You Tube video on what I think was a new Colt 1911. It had two springs, a sliding bolt inside the slide and a guide rod as part of the barrel.. I've never seen anything like it and it sure wasn't a 1911A1.

Could it have been a convertion kit?

Mark_Mark · Wednesday at 5:16 PM

Work got me caught up… didn’t have time to stop by the shop

Greyman50 · Wednesday at 7:24 PM

This is a new Colt Competition Series that's only difference is the 2 recoil springs instead of the single one.
Have any pics of the one you are posting about?

Mark_Mark · Wednesday at 7:28 PM

Greyman50 said:
This is a new Colt Competition Series that's only difference is the 2 recoil springs instead of the single one.
Have any pics of the one you are posting about?

one big ragged hole ! nice

Tracksidewrong · Wednesday at 8:22 PM

Pocketrocket said:
This is our reality here in California. Thanks to our handgun roster new Colts haven't been available for years. And people think they're made of gold. Worn Government Models and 1991's are $1500. I paid $2500 for my MkIV Series 70 Gold Cup here. It is LNIB, last year made(83). I've got a nice nickel Government Model MkIV from the mid 70's I paid a little less for.
I couldn't find a decent Lightweight, and didn't want a newer XSE, so i got a S&W 1911PD. It's really nice, great trigger.
I think the lightweight wadcutter GCNM slides ended in the late 60's.

My 1977 Gold Cup MKIV has the lightweight slide. And the collet bushing as well.

Dave Haynes · Thursday at 12:27 AM

HH940 said:
Could it have been a convertion kit?

I suppose but I've never seen one like this. The guy was holding up the major pieces and 22 kits are usually a lighter slide and spring not a bolt and second spring inside the slide. Or a large steel spring guide from the barrel to the collet all one piece.

Greyman50 · Thursday at 7:56 AM

The Colt Service Mdl. Ace and copies had 2 piece bolt which was designed by "David M. Williams( Carbine Williams) and was very popular.
Not a 45 ACP.
This is a Colt 22 long rifle Conversion slide. Difference is the " floating chamber".

Mark_Mark · Thursday at 10:58 AM

Greyman50 said:
The Colt Service Mdl. Ace and copies had 2 piece bolt which was designed by "David M. Williams( Carbine Williams) and was very popular.
Not a 45 ACP.
This is a Colt 22 long rifle Conversion slide. Difference id the " floating chamber".

I picked one of those Colt 22 Conversion kits too, just missing the J hook thing. Came from a yard sale in Arkansas, ammo box full of 1911A1 parts and slides. $100

ladder13 · Thursday at 3:18 PM

A new one maybe. I sold a NIB one about 3 years ago for $1150

6GUNSONLY · Thursday at 3:54 PM

IMO, it would have to be new in the box to bring $1400, and i dont think I'd be a buyer even then.

Greyman50 · Thursday at 4:21 PM

Got mine years ago from a good friend that did not want it. He needed a GI slide and I had several so we did a trade. I shoot it every once in a while.

bigggbbruce · Thursday at 4:36 PM

Mark_Mark said:
one big ragged hole ! nice

Across a 10 inch spread. One mag at a time then a fresh target, thats just a waste of ammo.

AJ · Thursday at 4:52 PM

I bought this 1977 Colt Gold Cup Series 70 with a Colt .22 Conversion Unit about 10-15 years ago for $1000 OTD. Shoots better than I do.

Mark_Mark · Thursday at 7:51 PM

bigggbbruce said:
Across a 10 inch spread. One mag at a time then a fresh target, thats just a waste of ammo.

with 45 semi-wadcutter, it doesn’t take much to make a big ragged hole.

$1400 for a 1975 Colt Government MKIV?

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