Break-Free CLP Only?

Before I retired from the NG "Breakfree CLP" was all that was used on unit weapons, M 16's, M 60's, whatever. It works.

Hoppes #9 does smell better!
 
I quit using Breakfree CLP after reading the ArmaLite president's "Tech Note 72". I believe LTC Mark Westrom knows his weaponry.
 
Shooter's Choice powder solvent to clean, Clenzoil to lube and protect.

If you've got a lot of copper fouling, Shooter's Choice copper solvent or Sweet's.
 
If you want to know what is in Hoppe's No. 9 solvent, here is a link to the MSDS data sheet:

http://www.hoppes.com/au_msds.html

I have used Hoppe's for about fifty years for routine cleaning and think it works great unless you need more copper removing power than it offers and then I switch to one of the more powerful bore cleaners. I use CLP Breakfree as a lubricant, but it doesn't seem to be very effective as a bore cleaner in my opinion. It is OK if all you want to do is remove carbon rresidue, but it doesn't do anything to remove copper fouling.
 
IIRC, Hoppes No. 9 was never billed as a copper solvent, only as a powder solvent. I have found that both CLP and also Kroil will also remove powder residue, but have more lubricating properties than Hoppes, so I have tilted toward using those for routine cleaning. If I have to deal with copper fouling or leading, other measures need to be taken.
 
The Citronella ingredient is what’s giving the Hoppes #9 smell that people love or hate. I like the smell of Citronella. My wife and mosquitoes hate that smell!
 
In cleaning guns, do you use a solvent like Hoppe's No. 9 in the bore, or can one just use Break-Free CLP for both cleaning and lubrication/preservation?

I have the same basic question, for cleaning/lubricating a Shield 40.

I have read, and re-read this thread and several others, and it is still not clear to me if using the Break Free CLP alone is the best solution.

The product description from Safariland.com would seem to indicate that it should be very good:

Break Free® CLP

Break Free® CLP® is the gold standard solution with only ONE STEP to clean, lubricate and protect your firearm. CLP is more than a superior lubricant, CLP actually cleans firing residue and other contaminates form the bore, moving parts and exterior of firearms while simultaneously reducing friction and protecting from corrosion.

Any new thoughts on this?
 
CLP for everything, when you let everything soak a bit, they clean up much easier. Used it first in the Corp and will always stick with it.
 
To answer the OP's question, yes, CLP will remove copper fouling. Bring a lunch. Soak, scrub, repeat...repeat...repeat.
There are many specific copper removers. I prefer the M-Pro 7 series products as a compatible "family" of products, but there are lots o'options. Many copper removers are ammonia-based, which is viable but have some issues, mostly smell, toxicity, corrosion, and (some say) ammonia crystals after cleaning...which should be a non-issue if the bore is cleaned and lubricated after the remover is finished. The M-Pro 7 stuff is non-toxic and readily available. fWIW.
 
I'm in the CLP camp also. I clean and lube after each outing and CLP seems to work just fine. I do add a thin bit of Hoppes Elite lube to the rails and moving parts. That Eds Red at $10 a gallon sounds interesting though!
 
Thanks for the feedback from everyone on using the Break Free CLP.

It was a very hard decision, but for now I have decided to go with Break Free CLP. I really like that it combines all three functions into one product, and, based on many reports, has done an excellent job of it for many years.

Having said that, I think (based on research, not experience) that either Break Free or Hoppe's would do a great job. I'll try to remember to post back here in 6 mos or so to report on the results.

Thanks again to all.
 
I mostly use CLP, unless I'm breaking in a rifle barrel. or I buy a gun with a lot of copper fouling. In which case I use an old bottle of 7.62 copper cleaner. Lots of ammonia so do it in a well ventilated area. I wouldn't use Hoppes or any other solvent on a nickel gun though. Would not want to risk damage to the finish.
 
Hoppes #9 is essentially relabled Kerosene. You could save yourself some money and just use regular Kerosene or Diesel fuel instead.

I have a VERY difficult time believing that Hoppes #9 is Kerosene.

Post some supporting evidence Please.
 
Cleaning products, then lube.

I have a variety of cleaning products which all work pretty close to advertised. For lubrication I use Willson Combat.
 
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