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09-06-2010, 02:53 PM
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Titegroup and 45acp
I usually load 5. grn's for my 1911, and the 625, with 200gr LFP bullets.
Hodgdon's site lists 4.8-5.4 grns for the powder.
I want to load some lite loads for the wife to shoot in the 625, she does not like recoil.
Has anyone gone lighter than the listed 4.8 grns with Titegroup?
I do have some other powders I can go to, but was just wondering how low I can go with TG in the 625.
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09-06-2010, 03:02 PM
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I use 4.6g with 230g Ranier TMJ's. Recoil is mild for a 45. About 750fps in a 4" barrel.
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09-06-2010, 04:16 PM
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For 45 AR, I use 4.5 gr Titegroup with cast 230 gr RN boolits. Mild recoil, very accurate. I have went as low as 2.3grs, but the load was not quite as accurate. I am shooting a 5" brl. 625. In a a 625, the 4.5 gr/230 gr LRN load is about like shooting 148 gr target loads in a K frame smith.
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09-06-2010, 04:57 PM
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TG 45acp
I used 4.5 grns TG with 185/200 lswc 45acp. MP 45 FS no problems
Great groups. 5/6 one hole groups at 11 yds offhand.
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09-06-2010, 06:20 PM
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I'll try something in the 4.5 area to see how she handles it.
If not, I have some Trailboss to let her try.
Thanks guys
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09-06-2010, 06:41 PM
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If you want some low recoil/veocity 45 ACP loads with cast lead bullets then try Trail Boss powder - guaranteed to please.
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09-06-2010, 11:03 PM
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You can go as light as 4.2gr with a 200gr HG 68 SWC .
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+1 on that 4.2 grains of Titegroup and the 200gr.SWC..Very accurate in three .45 Autos and two .45 revolvers.
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09-07-2010, 01:02 AM
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Quote:
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+1 on that 4.2 grains of Titegroup and the 200gr.SWC..Very accurate in three .45 Autos and two .45 revolvers.
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This is one of my favorite practice loads as well, and works just fine in my 1911s.
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09-07-2010, 07:43 AM
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I'm not a big fan of TiteGroup. It is such a dense powder that there is mighty little of it in the case with a normal load. Case fill is a big deal for consistency and going too low is a bad thing when it comes to squibs. Now, TG may not be as position sensitive as other mainstay fast burning pistol powders but I think it would be a bad thing for a new shooter to have a stuck bullet. They would think they did something wrong and that would be bad too.
If it were me, I would use TrailBoss in the M625 ONLY. Load it down to the minimum and your case will still be pretty full and you will not have a squib. Recoil will be negligible. Even to the point of should you use them in the 1911, they won't cycle the slide if you have a standard spring in it!
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09-16-2010, 01:26 AM
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Tightgroup works very well, and I am a big fan for loading it in 38 spl. For .45ACP I like Winchester 231. Been using it for 30+ years and it has never let me down.
A mild load for your wife (or for you too) is 4.6 gr. W231 using a hard cast lead 230 Gr. RN bullet. I find this will have minimal recoil and will operate the slide reliably even with the factory 18 pound spring.
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09-17-2010, 12:41 AM
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I load as light as 4gr titegroup with lead bullets. The powder is not position sensitive; just be sure only ONE charge in a case.
Your 625 will shoot fine; your 1911 probably won't go all the way back with stock spring.
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I've tried Titegroup for both .45 auto and .38 special. I was unimpressed - I found W231 to be just as accurate. Titegroup also burns very hot (in temperature), and got worse leading I assume from it melting the bullets.
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09-19-2010, 09:43 PM
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I've tried Titegroup for both .45 auto and .38 special. I was unimpressed - I found W231 to be just as accurate.
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I agree. I've gone to Titegroup for plated and jacketed, but still using HP38/231 for lead in .45 and .38.
The OP specified he was just interested in Titegroup.
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09-22-2010, 10:26 PM
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Tested 3.7 titegroup in ACP & AR cases with 185 SWC, 225 RN & TC in several S&Ws (M25 Jovino, M625). Also shot the 225s in stock RP97. ALL functioned fine and grouped very good at 10-15 yards.
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09-22-2010, 10:44 PM
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I tried the 4.2 grs of TG.
It shot well, and was quite accurate, but damn was the gun dirty after my range session. Not leading, but black and sooty.
I did not have that problem with 5 grns.
Would this be caused by too low of pressure in the loads?
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09-28-2010, 10:11 AM
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FWIW, I also run the 4.5-4.6 grains of TiteGroup behind 230 grn plated round nose bullets. And yes, my guns are dirty after shooting. Nothing a little CLP can't cure.
Both guns (Sig 1911 and Glock 36) like that load, and the extra cleanup is worth it to me.
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