Fluxing with sawdust?

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Hi all, anyone out there flux with sawdust and how does it work for you? Just getting ready to get back into casting and have been reading up and ran across several refrences to using sawdust as a fluxing agent. On a unrelated subject I read about useing eithier Ballistol or Kroil as a mould release agent but cannot find the artical again, anyone do this? Back when I was casting it was SOP that the mould be squeaky clean and smoked with a match. Any info appreciated!
 
I use a combination of Cedar pet bedding and toilet bowl wax for flux when casting for fluxing. After casting I always use Kroil to soak my molds. Keeps the rust off. I have seen that is also a mold release agent. Personally when casting and running when I flux with the wax and it flares up I just coat the mold with the smoke off that. I have seen that people use Bullplate on top the mold between the mold a sprue cutter. I use Husqvarna synthetic 2 stroke oil for the same. Works for me.
 
I use sawdust. Works great! Go over to the cast boolits forum and you'll see some threads on it.
 
Used to use a little sawdust over the freshly fluxed metal to keep it from oxidizing again quickly. Just blocks the oxygen/air from contacting it. I never tried it for the fluxing itself.

I imagine if the type of wood dust has enough resin in it, it'll work for you. Pine, cedar, ect resin in the wood should do the fluxing I'd think.

Instead I used to use a small blob of bullet lube. That worked fine.
Always had a small amount from a damaged tube of it or some that you had to scrape from the lube-sizer for some reason.
Candle wax was another source.
Light the smoke up as it comes off the top of the pot to keep the place from filling up with smoke and fumes.
That was ladle pouring and that was 40 yrs ago or more.
..and I just reminded myself how much I don't miss the casting anymore.

I'm sure there are much better set ups around now.
 
Sawdust works great for fluxing. To add to it, I stir the lead with a paint mixing stick which gets the wood down into the lead too. I use the stick to scrape the sides and bottom of the pot and get the impurities to the surface. The sawdust forms a nice thin layer of ash on top as 2152hq says, keeps the tin from oxidizing out of the alloy.
 
Hi all, anyone out there flux with sawdust and how does it work for you? Just getting ready to get back into casting and have been reading up and ran across several refrences to using sawdust as a fluxing agent. On a unrelated subject I read about useing eithier Ballistol or Kroil as a mould release agent but cannot find the artical again, anyone do this? Back when I was casting it was SOP that the mould be squeaky clean and smoked with a match. Any info appreciated!

Bob,
It matters what kind of mould you are using. If it is a Lee 6 cavity, then your assumptions are right. Personally, no smoking for me nor any release agent. I get some water as hot as I can stand to stick my hands in, a scrub brush and the Dawn dish soap. Preheat the mould a bit, put it in the water and scrub the fire out of it. Have some boiling water on the stove and rinse carefully. You MAY have to repeat this. I use stick bullet lube on the guide pins and spruce bolt, if needed.

Most of my moulds are either brass or cast iron now and they drop bullets like CRAZY!

On my HP MOULDS THOUGH, I LEARNED A TRICK FROM AN OLD BULLET CASTER THAT WORKS SUPER. Take the Lock Ease Graphite and mix it with pure rubbing alcohol. I use CRC spray and put a squirt into the can lid and apply directly to the pins and their alignment pins with a Qtip, and allow to dry completely. My boolits drop off of those pins like crazy!


The brass Cramer style moulds from Miha, mp-molds.com are the cat's meow and well worth their money.

Just me but, that is what I do. If you smelt from wheel weights, keep it well under 750*F. There are a lot more zinc weights out there now and they melt at that temperature. It doesn't take much zinc, in the ppm category, to ruin a large melt.


Remember your gloves, long sleeved shirt and to cast in a well ventilated area. Saw dust works as a flux. I use candle wax that is out of my wife's Scentsy pot now, or paraffin or bullet lube. All work about as well and you can light the fumes with a match and have no smoke.


Have fun, be safe!
 
Ive done this ... and yes it works.
It seems to handle large rude and crude salvage lead melts with tons of crud.
I find it kinda loses its glitter in reasonably clean lead where bees wax does better.
 
Thanks for the info all! Things have and havent changed since I quit casting about thirty years ago! I think for the fluxing Im going to try pine pitch and sawdust and see how it works. As for the molds (Lyman's) I'll give the old sqeaky clean a try first although if memory serves me the EK's with thier square grease groove were a bit finicky about comeing out of the molds. Thanks again and stay safe y'all.
 

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