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Old 02-14-2013, 03:23 AM
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I'm away from my press and manuals for a while, but the upside is there are several "virgin" LGSs to cruise for supplies.

I'd appreciate it if someone with the latest Sierra manual could give me the names of the powders listed as the "Accuracy Load" for .223 55gr, 75gr, and 80gr.

One of them was VV N-140, but I don't recall which and I don't recall the other two.

TIA for your help. Shudda brought the manuals with me lol.
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Good luck on your supply hunt. I would think you could pull up the info your looking for on Sierra's website. I haven't looked. But I know that some of the bullet manufactors do have some load data available.
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If its there, I never found it. Powder manufacturers publish their data on line, but bullet guys sell books . . . which is fine . . . except mine are 750 miles away lol.

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Sorry I can't help or I would. The Sierra I have is from 1970 and doesn't show accuracy loads.
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NP, i know you guys would . . . it isn't that I haven't bought or read th manuals lol.

Thanks anyhow - will go at this another way lol.
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Sierra Edition V:

.223 Rem. (AR-15) Accuracy Load

55gr - RE-7
75gr? Lists 77gr MatchKing Viht N-140
80gr Viht N-140

.223 Rem (Bolt Action) Accuracy Load

55gr - Viht N-133
Lists 69gr MatchKing Viht N-540
80gr Varget
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The .223 data from Sierra is one of the few that can be found online. Here is the link for both the AR and bolt data.

http://accurateshooter.net/Downloads/sierra223ar.pdf
http://accurateshooter.net/Downloads...223rembolt.pdf
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The .223 data from Sierra is one of the few that can be found online. Here is the link for both the AR and bolt data.

http://accurateshooter.net/Downloads/sierra223ar.pdf
http://accurateshooter.net/Downloads...223rembolt.pdf

Thanks for the link. What is the main page to get to the pdf's? I tried acurateshooter.net??

They have other calibers like 308, 30-06?
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One note;

Just because it was accurate in their test gun does not mean that it will be accurate in YOUR guns.
Lyman also had accuracy loads but they did not work out in my guns...............
Good luck finding a powder and bullet that works in your guns,
it can be done.
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. . . What is the main page to get to the pdf's? I tried acurateshooter.net??

They have other calibers like 308, 30-06?
Try Index of /Downloads

There's a couple of other files there, and some other html pages you can try to drill down through.
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Thanks for the link. What is the main page to get to the pdf's? I tried acurateshooter.net??

They have other calibers like 308, 30-06?
You know, I came across that link through google. Then I bookmarked it. Never tried to get to it through the main website.

On a side note, Speer has a lot of data for their deep curl bullets online right now since they're new bullets and not in their current load manual.
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Thanks VERY much for the powder names and the link to Sierra data on line.

I have already established a very accurate load of 24.1gr H335 pushing Hornady 55gr FMJBTw/c for my RRA LAR-15, 16" barrel, 1-9" twist.

Ordered some VV N-140 for my Sako 85, 24", 1-8", figuring they might get along well speaking the same language. Powder Valley shipments were/are still delayed, so started using H335 for 55gr and Varget for 75gr and 80gr - all with not enuff success lol - when I went out of town.

But couldn't turn down the opportunity to pick up some "useful" powder down here if I could. Found H335 (!!) and CFE223 and picked up a few pounds of each at prices unchanged from pre-hysteria.

So now I think my powder, primers, and bullet inventories now match up OK for the next six months. Thanks again for the help.
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Just use varget with fed primers in all three and you will likely find the sweet spot right close to max. I LOVE Varget for all bullet weights in 223. I think 26.3 for 69 grain, 25 for 77 and 27 or 27.5 for 55 grain is max loads but don't have my manual right here so double check that info.
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The original question was simply to get SOME powders that might be useful IF they were available in local stores.

Last session I worked up to 24.0gr Varget pushing 75gr BTHP out of the Sako and the groups were starting to pull in. I had some 24.5 but light failed, the chrono stopped working, so I decided to hold off. Will be working higher when I get back

Also got up to 23.5gr Varget under 80gr Amax, and more was looking better there too.

So it looks like you're on target there, but I'm sticking with H335 for the 55gr in my AR.
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H322? Or viht N135? RE-7? I saw a pdf with this on it.

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I use H335 or WC844 for my AR ammo and for the past year nothing but Varget for my Bolt Action .223 ammo. If I could get a hold of some CFE223 I might change my mind but right now there is none available.
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I use H335 or WC844 for my AR ammo and for the past year nothing but Varget for my Bolt Action .223 ammo. If I could get a hold of some CFE223 I might change my mind but right now there is none available.
Seems I'm on the same path lol. I did manage to score a few pounds of CFE223 at a LGS here, so sometime this spring we'll see
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Rl-15 is great for 75/77 & 80s. H335 is a favorite for the lighter bullets, producing good vel without excessive pressure. Good old 4895 works well with most 223 bulet weights. 2460, RL15 & 4895 are the ones John Holliger list on his site for 69 thru 80.
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I think I can grab a big jar of RL-15 locally . . . I've only got 1 lb of the Varget and RL-15 might be better than trying to push V that far.

Thanks for the info and links.
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I think I can grab a big jar of RL-15 locally . . . I've only got 1 lb of the Varget and RL-15 might be better than trying to push V that far.

Thanks for the info and links.
My experience with rl-15 and varget was that they are nearly identical but varget is very temperature insensitive. Rl-15, not so much. But take what ya can get right now. I lucked it and found 16 lbs of h4895 while awaiting my backorder of 8 lbs of varget which arrived about a week ago. So I'm set for a while. I load .223 & 7-08 with both and similar results with both. A little more velocity out of varget and a little more accuracy out of 4895, but both are sub 1/2 moa and I'm not going to complain about 200 fps when my 7/08 is still supersonic at 1600 yards.
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Have little expereince with Varget and/or the 80gr. None at all with RE15. Seems like RE15 can produce the same velocity at lower volume levels and without compressed loads. That would seem to give RE15 a broader range to find a happy load.

Have I got that right? Damn, I wish I was home at my press lol.

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ALL U DO is go to your home page & type SIERRA BULLETS LOAD DATA an there it is --Bullets 40--80 gr. & powders to use & max loads.
Apparently what you are doing is a search of the web for/based on the phrase SIERRA BULLETS LOAD DATA.

Perhaps that works for you, but it does not work for me. The link above will work for anyone, any search engine.
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Apparently what you are doing is a search of the web for/based on the phrase SIERRA BULLETS LOAD DATA.

Perhaps that works for you, but it does not work for me. The link above will work for anyone, any search engine.
You will end up @ accurateshooter.net--just did it.
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Only if you look at the drop down box on Google and pick .....223

If you hit enter with just SIERRA BULLETS LOAD DATA it does not pull up.

Regardless it is found and all is well.
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ALL U DO is go to your home page & type SIERRA BULLETS LOAD DATA an there it is --Bullets 40--80 gr. & powders to use & max loads.
And there what is?? What link? If you Google ,SIERRA BULLETS LOAD DATA, you get all kinds of sites.

What link are you seeing??
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And there what is?? What link? If you Google ,SIERRA BULLETS LOAD DATA, you get all kinds of sites.

What link are you seeing??
home page--Sierra bullets load data--3/4 down on the right click on Sierra bullets reloading data 223--then click on 223 Remington ar 15-------- puts you straight in to accurateshooter.net ---I use MSN & BING--That may be the problem but it works good on my high speed Sudden link connection.

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home page--Sierra bullets load data--3/4 down on the right click on Sierra bullets reloading data 223--then click on 223 Remington ar 15-------- puts you straight in to accurateshooter.net ---I use MSN & BING--That may be the problem but it works good on my high speed Sudden link connection.
IOW, you can use a search engine to find the data if you forget the actual link.

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